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Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:28 pm
Do you think the reason tan hasent kept his promise on debt to equity is because the fans haven't accepted the red and want blue back. I think there is still a possibility of a return to blue and this is why tan is being stubborn and not converting the debt. I'd be very surprised if tan changed us back blue and still converted the debt to equity. It's one or the other I'd say and that's what tans mindset is.. Opinions?
Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:39 pm
Got to be debt free for me ,otherwise the past two years have been a waste of time and for nothing
Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:21 pm
He can stick his money up his arse and wez the last two years have already been for nothing, apart from totally tearing our club apart
Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:22 pm
both will not happen under Tan
Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:26 pm
wez1927 wrote:Got to be debt free for me ,otherwise the past two years have been a waste of time and for nothing
wez it cant happen whilst we are in the championship thats why dislike the man or not we have to hope he gets us straight back up.
only then have we got a chance of a debt free club and more importantly a saleable club.
for tan to sell up and for us to return to blue the club has to win promotion and then stay up the following season.
to me i dont see any other option available to us.
Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:53 pm
steve davies wrote:wez1927 wrote:Got to be debt free for me ,otherwise the past two years have been a waste of time and for nothing
wez it cant happen whilst we are in the championship thats why dislike the man or not we have to hope he gets us straight back up.
only then have we got a chance of a debt free club and more importantly a saleable club.
for tan to sell up and for us to return to blue the club has to win promotion and then stay up the following season.
to me i dont see any other option available to us.
Said this many times Steve the debt to equity swap hinged on us staying up last season had we stayed up I'm positive we'd be debt free before the new season had started
I won't go into my reasoning again as it takes a while to explain it's all down to share value etc whilst a championship club our bet worth is far lower than a premier league club tan would live millions converting debt in the championship hence why it's just not feasible
Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:19 pm
steve davies wrote:wez1927 wrote:Got to be debt free for me ,otherwise the past two years have been a waste of time and for nothing
wez it cant happen whilst we are in the championship thats why dislike the man or not we have to hope he gets us straight back up.
only then have we got a chance of a debt free club and more importantly a saleable club.
for tan to sell up and for us to return to blue the club has to win promotion and then stay up the following season.
to me i dont see any other option available to us.
said this a few times...as long as Tan is both the owner and our only creditor,i really do not see the concern.......our problems only begin if someone buys the club and agrees to a huge debt to Tan as part of the purchase.....its all about what would be negotiated.......everyone seems to assume this debt is written in stone..but lots of business men take gambles and then accept a loss when they do not pay off..
Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:18 pm
Neither will happen until Tan fucks off.
Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:22 am
Debt to equity Or return to blue?...
The whole reason for going red and fans putting up with it was for a debt to equity PROMISE, so what chance we got of going blue and getting it done, to many deluded people out there imo most know with half a brain cell neither will happen
Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:31 am
As 1977 said.. The whole agreement to turning red was on the promise that the debt would be turned to equity (among other reasons like in investment, but we accepted it for the debt free club)... This will not happen as vinny has already said and we will never return to blue while uncle vinny is here
Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:34 am
return to blue , how many clubs are debt free? this red or dead nonsense is a load of crap
Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:37 am
darran1927 wrote:return to blue , how many clubs are debt free? this red or dead nonsense is a load of crap
correct.............it was ok ill go and find new investors and not invest more..............oh no mr tan please do not do that we will live with the red..........
Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:53 am
Return to blue, sell all our best players and assets, play our youth team and plummet down the leagues struggling. I would take that over what we have now in a heartbeat.
Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:21 am
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Return to blue, sell all our best players and assets, play our youth team and plummet down the leagues struggling. I would take that over what we have now in a heartbeat.
but nowhere near enough said it at the time............even the championship winning celebrations last year were predominantly red..........my point is not i want red, because id love the blue back...........but if you told a parks team that youd sponsor them in exchange for wearing your company colours and wearing your logo..........they tell you to f off.......then a week later knock the door with a change of heart.............youd be pretty peed off if 3 months into the season they were all calling you a c**t,wanker and dictator.........after chucking thousands into that club........
Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:15 pm
RTB. Easy.
Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:18 pm
steve davies wrote:wez1927 wrote:Got to be debt free for me ,otherwise the past two years have been a waste of time and for nothing
wez it cant happen whilst we are in the championship thats why dislike the man or not we have to hope he gets us straight back up.
only then have we got a chance of a debt free club and more importantly a saleable club.
for tan to sell up and for us to return to blue the club has to win promotion and then stay up the following season.
to me i dont see any other option available to us.
Agree with Steve on this one
Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:04 pm
Neither will happen with tin-pot dictator Tan at the helm. He's screwed the club and us fans for far too long - and still some idiots back him
Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:05 pm
Neither will happen with tin-pot dictator Tan at the helm. He's screwed the club and us fans for far too long - and still some idiots back him
Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:09 pm
Blue any day
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