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Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:03 pm
I've noticed quite alot of hatred towards England over the past few days. It has made me create this account.
I'm sure alot of people that have posted hateful comments have perfectly legitimate reasons for hating our cousins across the way. If you would like to reply and tell me what has happened in your life for you to hate England. Gloating about sport aside, as every single country does it. I'm sure alot of it comes down to "Ummmm I dunno, just hate the english dun I?" "My father hated em so I will aswell".
Don't talk to me about tyranny, you love other countries that have carried out ethnic cleansing countless times.
70 years on from D-Day. Thousands of English people died to protect our country and the rest of the allies. Thousands of women and children lost husbands and fathers fighting for the right for you talk absolute shit about their country. Thousands of Welsh people fought with those English people, dying together.
All those moving moments last week?. Forgotten already.
If it wasn't for the English, you'd be speaking f*cking German.
Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:08 pm
It's FOOTBALL rivalry, it's all fun at the end of the day.
Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:11 pm
No problem with the English but hate the French. Horrible ignorant people
Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:14 pm
If it wasn't for the Welsh the english would be speaking f**cking German.
Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:14 pm
It's very childish How can one take rivalry off the pitch and be happy for footballers to recieve miss fortune other than losing games is.
Such a fickle country, Welsh and Scottish are happy to cheer for boxers in the olympics because they are Representing Great Britain even though they are english.
Or they will back Ricky hatton and froch when in america
England is part of britain, the UK is to small to be divided into nationalities just a retarded idea, the size of wales is also laughable how we are so small
Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:36 pm
The Welsh Dragon wrote:It's FOOTBALL rivalry, it's all fun at the end of the day.
No it isn't.
If it is, then we haven't got a leg to stand on as they have been better than us for over a hundred years.
Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:47 pm
You're not really French, are you? At least, I hope not. Because 'if it wasn't for the English, you'd be Krauts'.
What's the French flag? A white cross on a white background!

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Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:04 pm
The Frenchman wrote:
If it wasn't for the English, you'd be speaking f*cking German.
Great first post (under this username)
If it wasnt for the English we'd be speaking German.
If it wasnt for the english we'd be speaking Welsh.
If it wasnt for the normans we'd be speaking Welsh.
If it wasnt for the vikings we'd be speaking Welsh.
If it wasnt for the Saxons we'd be speaking Welsh.
If it wasnt for the Romans we'd be speaking Welsh.
Yma o hyd
Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:07 pm
People do know that the words 'Welsh and 'Wales' are old German words for foreigner don't they..?
Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:21 pm
Military Junta wrote:People do know that the words 'Welsh and 'Wales' are old German words for foreigner don't they..?
Its a Saxon word for what Saxon people saw (see) the welsh as being. A foreign people.
Brythoniad is the old Welsh/Briton for British. Replaced by Cymry for the land and Cymru the people.
Saesneg is Welsh for English people. Saesneg meaning Saxon.
Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:34 pm
griff105 wrote:Military Junta wrote:People do know that the words 'Welsh and 'Wales' are old German words for foreigner don't they..?
Its a Saxon word for what Saxon people saw (see) the welsh as being. A foreign people.
Brythoniad is the old Welsh/Briton for British. Replaced by Cymry for the land and Cymru the people.
Saesneg is Welsh for English people. Saesneg meaning Saxon.
Germanic I meant.
However what annoys me with the pro-Independance debators is that with first of all they should have a go at their fellow welsh who are dependant on benefits because that is the biggest outlay and if Wales went independant then it would go bust because of the benefit cost alone!!!! Their defence to that is that their would get European money so rather than being abasket case ecomony within the UK they'd rather be a basket case ecomony within the EU..?
Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:42 am
The Frenchman wrote:I've noticed quite alot of hatred towards England over the past few days. It has made me create this account.
I'm sure alot of people that have posted hateful comments have perfectly legitimate reasons for hating our cousins across the way. If you would like to reply and tell me what has happened in your life for you to hate England. Gloating about sport aside, as every single country does it. I'm sure alot of it comes down to "Ummmm I dunno, just hate the english dun I?" "My father hated em so I will aswell".
Don't talk to me about tyranny, you love other countries that have carried out ethnic cleansing countless times.
70 years on from D-Day. Thousands of English people died to protect our country and the rest of the allies. Thousands of women and children lost husbands and fathers fighting for the right for you talk absolute shit about their country. Thousands of Welsh people fought with those English people, dying together.
All those moving moments last week?. Forgotten already.
If it wasn't for the English, you'd be speaking f*cking German.
Sporting rivalry friend, nothing more. And as for your last point......Irony Alert
The only person displaying any 'hatred' is you
Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:32 pm
The Frenchman wrote:I've noticed quite alot of hatred towards England over the past few days. It has made me create this account.
I'm sure alot of people that have posted hateful comments have perfectly legitimate reasons for hating our cousins across the way. If you would like to reply and tell me what has happened in your life for you to hate England. Gloating about sport aside, as every single country does it. I'm sure alot of it comes down to "Ummmm I dunno, just hate the english dun I?" "My father hated em so I will aswell".
Don't talk to me about tyranny, you love other countries that have carried out ethnic cleansing countless times.
70 years on from D-Day. Thousands of English people died to protect our country and the rest of the allies. Thousands of women and children lost husbands and fathers fighting for the right for you talk absolute shit about their country. Thousands of Welsh people fought with those English people, dying together.
All those moving moments last week?. Forgotten already.
If it wasn't for the English, you'd be speaking f*cking German.
simply a football rivalry. believe it or not i don't hate people from swansea or bristol either, but i'd consider them rival teams. No one wants their neighbors doing too much better than them.
whilst i commend you for your Year 9 level of WWII knowledge, you clearly do not understand football culture one bit
Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:47 pm
Well said bracklablue! Irony at its best! And by the way I for one,do not cheer anyone,sporting wise,unless they are compatriots,ie welsh,or are you forgetting,the "english"in their current guise,were indeed the last to settle here in britain,and conquered us(after two attempts!)so why would anyone who regards themselves welsh,have an affinity with them sports wise or any wise for that matter? If it was'nt for the enlish we'd be speaking german!! I pissed when I read that bit.
Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:01 pm
Swearing doesn't really mean hatred.
The age old English hatred is the same as the Anti-Tory brigade.
Just have to wait for those generations to die out so maybe we can have a unbiased democracy and they can stop polluting our youngsters with their ignorant opinions based on history.
The hatred of the English goes way beyond sport. You are just lying if you think it doesn't.
And anyway, if it is a sporting rivalry as you say, why the f**k is there so much hatred?.
Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:07 pm
The Frenchman wrote:Swearing doesn't really mean hatred.
The age old English hatred is the same as the Anti-Tory brigade.
Just have to wait for those generations to die out so maybe we can have a unbiased democracy and they can stop polluting our youngsters with their ignorant opinions based on history.
The hatred of the English goes way beyond sport. You are just lying if you think it doesn't.
And anyway, if it is a sporting rivalry as you say, why the f**k is there so much hatred?.
aaahhhhh, my apologies, i didn't realise you were generalising and asuming all fans are the same.
for me personally, it is sport and sport alone that i dislike the English over. I obviously like to have banter, but I also dislike the english media around WC time as they usually think they have a divine right to do well.
and just for some bonus info, i'm anti-tory because IVE decided so, not because i've been told so.
DISCLAIMER: THIS POST DOES NOT REFLECT THE ATTITUDE OF ALL CITY FANS
Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:18 pm
The Frenchman wrote:I've noticed quite alot of hatred towards England over the past few days. It has made me create this account.
so whats your other account/accounts then?
Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:27 pm
I can neither confirm nor deny any aliases I may or may not have possibly had or had not had.
Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:39 pm
Don't compare War and Football you plank. We (Welsh) fought on the beeches side by side with English against the Germans under British banners. The Royal Welsh are regarded as the most loyal, toughest regiments in her Magistracy's army, so it wasn't just the English who saved lots from speaking German was it you moron?
Back to football will i support another country as Wales aren't in it? Yes, the one who i put my money on, simple as. Good to see prem stars do well there but will be unbearable to to see England win it, as you wudnt hear the end of it, from both friends and the bragging 66 wankers alike!
Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:39 pm
The Frenchman wrote:I can neither confirm nor deny any aliases I may or may not have possibly had or had not had.
why would you want to after posting such nonsense?
Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:14 pm
paulh_85 wrote:The Frenchman wrote:I've noticed quite alot of hatred towards England over the past few days. It has made me create this account.
so whats your other account/accounts then?

WelshPaul
Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:27 pm
I support 2 countries - Wales and everyone who plays England
Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:32 pm
The Frenchman wrote:I've noticed quite alot of hatred towards England over the past few days. It has made me create this account.
I'm sure alot of people that have posted hateful comments have perfectly legitimate reasons for hating our cousins across the way. If you would like to reply and tell me what has happened in your life for you to hate England. Gloating about sport aside, as every single country does it. I'm sure alot of it comes down to "Ummmm I dunno, just hate the english dun I?" "My father hated em so I will aswell".
Don't talk to me about tyranny, you love other countries that have carried out ethnic cleansing countless times.
70 years on from D-Day. Thousands of English people died to protect our country and the rest of the allies. Thousands of women and children lost husbands and fathers fighting for the right for you talk absolute shit about their country. Thousands of Welsh people fought with those English people, dying together.
All those moving moments last week?. Forgotten already.
If it wasn't for the English, you'd be speaking f*cking German.
It's sporting rivalry, don't take it too serious.
I couldn't give a damn if they lose each game 4-0.
Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:11 pm
I will support any team who plays against England in the World Cup
Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:11 pm
BracklaBlue72 wrote:The Frenchman wrote:I've noticed quite alot of hatred towards England over the past few days. It has made me create this account.
I'm sure alot of people that have posted hateful comments have perfectly legitimate reasons for hating our cousins across the way. If you would like to reply and tell me what has happened in your life for you to hate England. Gloating about sport aside, as every single country does it. I'm sure alot of it comes down to "Ummmm I dunno, just hate the english dun I?" "My father hated em so I will aswell".
Don't talk to me about tyranny, you love other countries that have carried out ethnic cleansing countless times.
70 years on from D-Day. Thousands of English people died to protect our country and the rest of the allies. Thousands of women and children lost husbands and fathers fighting for the right for you talk absolute shit about their country. Thousands of Welsh people fought with those English people, dying together.
All those moving moments last week?. Forgotten already.
If it wasn't for the English, you'd be speaking f*cking German.
Sporting rivalry friend, nothing more. And as for your last point......Irony Alert
The only person displaying any 'hatred' is you

Hit the nail on the head
Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:22 pm
griff105 wrote:The Frenchman wrote:
If it wasn't for the English, you'd be speaking f*cking German.
Great first post (under this username)
If it wasnt for the English we'd be speaking German.
If it wasnt for the english we'd be speaking Welsh.
If it wasnt for the normans we'd be speaking Welsh.
If it wasnt for the vikings we'd be speaking Welsh.
If it wasnt for the Saxons we'd be speaking Welsh.
If it wasnt for the Romans we'd be speaking Welsh.
Yma o hyd

No one is stopping you or anyone else speaking Welsh now yet you and the majority of this country have chosen not too. I am not against Welsh independence per se but I couldn't give a damn about a language that has never been part of my life. I can count one friend who speaks Welsh fluently and he hasn't spoken it since his mamgu died. I have never understood why the above pisses people off, it's had as much influence on my life as the languages of Lithuania and Nepal.
As for the thread, some people hate the English because they need someone to blame for their lives being a disaster. Thatcher, the Tories or the English is the go to for most of these mongs. I have nothing against the English love the banter between our nations especially when I worked over there and was the only welshman on site.
Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:52 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:griff105 wrote:The Frenchman wrote:
If it wasn't for the English, you'd be speaking f*cking German.
Great first post (under this username)
If it wasnt for the English we'd be speaking German.
If it wasnt for the english we'd be speaking Welsh.
If it wasnt for the normans we'd be speaking Welsh.
If it wasnt for the vikings we'd be speaking Welsh.
If it wasnt for the Saxons we'd be speaking Welsh.
If it wasnt for the Romans we'd be speaking Welsh.
Yma o hyd

No one is stopping you or anyone else speaking Welsh now yet you and the majority of this country have chosen not too. I am not against Welsh independence per se but I couldn't give a damn about a language that has never been part of my life. I can count one friend who speaks Welsh fluently and he hasn't spoken it since his mamgu died. I have never understood why the above pisses people off, it's had as much influence on my life as the languages of Lithuania and Nepal.
As for the thread, some people hate the English because they need someone to blame for their lives being a disaster. Thatcher, the Tories or the English is the go to for most of these mongs. I have nothing against the English love the banter between our nations especially when I worked over there and was the only welshman on site.
In fairness mate the language was stopped for centuries.
A lot of these 'mongs' blame the English for the Welsh not, English only courtrooms, etc right up to Tryweryn, second homes and welching on a welsh language channel.
However a lot of these issues have been made right (as they can be) and i for one certainly dont hate the English. Though my English wife pisses me off sometimes! Personally i think the industrial revolution was the bigges factor.
Its just banter.
Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:49 pm
70 years on from D-Day. Thousands of English people died to protect our country and the rest of the allies. Thousands of women and children lost husbands and fathers fighting for the right for you talk absolute shit about their country. Thousands of Welsh people fought with those English people, dying together.
All those moving moments last week?. Forgotten already.
If it wasn't for the English, you'd be speaking f*cking German.[/quote]
This is complete shit on a number of levels, not least due to the fact that 9 out of every 10 German soldiers were killed by the Russians. I guess this, as well as the contribution of Welshmen, Scots, Canadians, Americans, Australians etc. is lost on the Ingurland supporters who boast of winning 'Two world wars and One World Cup'.
Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:30 pm
I dont hate them, im just not bothered about how they do. i will watch their matches same as all the others, but the results wont bother me except Chile and Brazil coz i got some money on them.
Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:13 pm
griff105 wrote: In fairness mate the language was stopped for centuries.
A lot of these 'mongs' blame the English for the Welsh not, English only courtrooms, etc right up to Tryweryn, second homes and welching on a welsh language channel.
However a lot of these issues have been made right (as they can be) and i for one certainly dont hate the English. Though my English wife pisses me off sometimes! Personally i think the industrial revolution was the bigges factor.
Its just banter.
Finally a reasonable post. Unlike the drivel I just read from the no doubt cave dwelling, Anti-English moron that is Caeboy. The two world wars song is a football chant ffs.
Welsh not was a large contributor to the decline of Welsh but like you said it was the industial revolution that really killed it. S4C is a waste of tax payers money and has had appalling viewing figures. In our schools Welsh is being pushed to the moon and back yet there hasn't been a noticeable increase in the number of speakers. I have my grievances with the way Wales is being treated by Westminster but one of them is not the language which has had no part of my life. I want it to thrive in the Fro but beyond that is there a point?
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