' Malky and Moyes? '

Any one else think these two are better managers when having to manage on a small budget?

History down the years have thrown up many managers who once given large amounts of money to spend spectaculary fail
when malky first became our manager he had no squad and very little money however
he quickly brought in freebies and small fee players and got them playing as a team.

The following season,yes I know largest championship budget)got us to the premier league
on the way he bought the likes of kimbo turner maynard no one cambell mutch taylor Connelly the largest fee being 2 millionish no real big money but successful
then boom over 50 million spent breaking our transfer record 3 times and then failure sacked and no new job at present.

Look at david moyes no money at everton kept them in the top ten every season for over 10 years allways threatening to break into the top 4 wheeling and dealing using loans etc but doing a great job
then boom gets the manu job money to burn 0ver 28 mill on fellani didn't last the season out got sacked
these two for me are defo better managers without large amounts of money to spend

Steve, I can actually finally agree with part of that, David Moyes def, to me United were to big a club for him and yes Malky did a superb job with very little money the first season, the second season Tan splashed the cash and threw it at Malky and Malky prob over spent, but achieved what Tan asked for and what the fans wanted Premier League and no one moaned at the time

Then Malky made a couple of terrible buys and well over spent,it was to late it was done, but we were staying out of the bottom 3, which is what every fan originally said thats all they wanted first season, as Tan got further on Malky's back it was never going to work.
I still believe to this day if Tan had stayed of Malk's back we would of still been in the Premier League next season.

Mike Walker and Colin Harvey were other ones who have failed with big budgets in the past. Just wondering how many on here actually remember both managing Everton

Moyes didn't have money at Everton?

Fellaini - £15m.
McCarthy - £13m.
Yakubu - £11.25m.
Bilyaletdinov - £9m.
Johnson - £8.5m.

That's close to £60m for five players alone.

Moyes didn't have money at Everton?

Fellaini - £15m.
McCarthy - £13m.
Yakubu - £11.25m.
Bilyaletdinov - £9m.
Johnson - £8.5m.

That's close to £60m for five players alone.

Over the 10 years in the Premier League, I actually never felt he spent like some of the big clubs.

Moyes didn't have money at Everton?

Fellaini - £15m.
McCarthy - £13m.
Yakubu - £11.25m.
Bilyaletdinov - £9m.
Johnson - £8.5m.

That's close to £60m for five players alone.

Moyes didn't sign McCarthy and most of those transfers where funded by the sale of Rooney, Lescott and Rodwell as well as others!!! Also there was a season where they had Champions League money

Moyes didn't have money at Everton?

Fellaini - £15m.
McCarthy - £13m.
Yakubu - £11.25m.
Bilyaletdinov - £9m.
Johnson - £8.5m.

That's close to £60m for five players alone.

He didn't even sign McCarthy, made a profit on most of them and they were funded by other departures.

I do disagree with the OP though. Moyes spent over 200m on his time with Everton and it was nearly 20m every season. Moyes just worked better as the 'underdog' with his defensive tactics and they didn't suit a club like United. That is why he failed, nothing to do with budgets imo.

Last edited by llandaffbluebird1 on Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.

but that wasn't in the same season was it

How much has Ole spent so far ..?

very little

How much has Ole spent so far ..?

5/6m

Both good managers at certain levels, neither could make the step up.

and how much has he brought in

How much has Ole spent so far ..?

5/6m

and how much did Pullis spend..?

How much has Ole spent so far ..?

5/6m

and how much did Pullis spend..?

i think pulis spent around 10 mil in january he brought in Puncheon,Ledley,Hennessy,Dann and Ince on loan

and how many players has ole brought in for 5/6 million

for those that don't quite understand the thread its about malky and moyes and managers who don't do very well spending loads of money
ole certainly hasn't spent much don't think pulis spent unwisely either not sure why they have been mentioned

No the point of this thread is that you want a pop at Malky while licking Ole arse with all those Norwegian faces yet others used the market far better than Ole at the time and got their teams out of the relegation zone

and those others consist of pulis and who
they also had lots more time than ole before the transfer market closed
not sure what you read but I was not having a go at malky as I clearly stated he did a good in fact very good job with out money
and im not licking anyones arse
but ole gets my support to get his squad together and the chance to get us back up
I know for fact that one mr bellamy said that even mourihnio would not of kept us up with the squad and time factors that ole had the smiley is of ole by the way a bit like the one we had for malky

Two crap managers, budgets shouldn't be an excuse.

How much has Ole spent so far ..?

5/6m

and how much did Pullis spend..?

What has Hoddle ever achieved in modern football management?

You're worse than the people who randomly bring MM up in topics that have no relevance to him.

Took a team to the last 16 in a world cup ? Has Ole done that ?

Took a team to the last 16 in a world cup ? Has Ole done that ?

I said MODERN MANAGEMENT, READ PROPERLY.

Also did you see that group they were in? Romania and Tunisa ffs.

There is a fine reason Hoddle hasn't been in work for nearly 10 years.

Two crap managers, budgets shouldn't be an excuse.

jose spent a fortune again and what did he win ?

I guess by your logic hes a crap manager

Took a team to the last 16 in a world cup ? Has Ole done that ?

I said MODERN MANAGEMENT, READ PROPERLY.

Also did you see that group they were in? Romania and Tunisa ffs.

There is a fine reason Hoddle hasn't been in work for nearly 10 years.

In those days Romania were a good team and Colombia were too. However with your use of the words 'modern management' are you only saying that we can judge Ole in 10+ years time then..?

Took a team to the last 16 in a world cup ? Has Ole done that ?

I said MODERN MANAGEMENT, READ PROPERLY.

Also did you see that group they were in? Romania and Tunisa ffs.

There is a fine reason Hoddle hasn't been in work for nearly 10 years.

In those days Romania were a good team and Colombia were too. However with your use of the words 'modern management' are you only saying that we can judge Ole in 10+ years time then..?

None of them were any special. England were easily superior to them all.

No I am not. I am saying Ole has achieved more in modern management therefore he was 100% a better choice than Hoddle was.

Mark Hughes also, get's giddy with a nice big budget.