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' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:02 am

Wednesday 3rd June 2014.

Manchester City squad cost £1bn to assemble... but it would cost £311m to buy Sergio Aguero, Yaya Toure and Co

By Nick Harris


It cost more than three times as much to assemble, but Manchester City's squad would cost £311m to buy
The findings are from a debate provoking report from the CIES Football Observatory
Sheik Mansour has now spent around £1billion on his Manchester City dream, but if he put every player up for sale this summer he would only be able to recoup £311million in proceeds.

That at least is one debate-provoking conclusion raised by a new report, published today, that assesses the ‘market values’ of players in the squads at the 98 clubs across the top divisions in England, Spain, Italy, Germany and France.

City have the most valuable squad in the Premier League according to experts at the Swiss-based CIES Football Observatory, who rate player values for summer 2014 by a wide range of ‘objective’ factors from age and contract expiry date to position, performance data and international experience.


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Market value: The current worth of Premier League squads

City’s most valuable player is Sergio Aguero, CIES say, with a market value of £40m, followed by David Silva (£27m) then Vincent Kompany and Yaya Toure (both around £24m). The whole squad would make £311.3m if sold at market rates in the transfer window, the report says.

Chelsea have the next most valuable squad who played in the Premier League in 2013-14 at £310.5m, followed by Liverpool (£300.8m), Arsenal (£288.7m) and Manchester United (£220.2m). It should be stressed these are sale values at ‘market rates’ this summer for all the players combined, and not what these clubs paid for those players. In many cases, not least at City, the players cost more than they are now worth.

At the other extreme, Fulham’s squad is worth just £30.6m, or less than any 2013-14 Premier League team, and only slightly less than West Brom’s (£32.3m) and Crystal Palace’s (£33.9m).


Key figure: Vincent Kompany's value is around the £24m mark, says the report

Time to cash in? Unhappy Yaya Toure is valued at around the £24m mark also
Across Europe, Barcelona’s squad - with the world’s most valuable player Lionel Messi in it - is rated as worth £478.2m while Real Madrid’s, with Cristiano Ronaldo and Gareth Bale in the ranks, is worth £393.5m in second place.

Bayern Munich are next (£322.6m) followed by City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.

The more a squad is worth, the better it performed in the Premier League in 2013-14, by and large. The top four most valuable squads filled the top four places and most clubs finished within a handful of places of what might be expected given their resources.

The two main exceptions were Palace, who finished in 11th place, or seven places higher than their squad ranked 18th in value; and Cardiff, who finished bottom, or six places lower than a squad worth the 14th most in the division.


Market value: The current worth of Premier League squads

The top of the tree: With a squad value of £478.2m, Barcelona are the most expensive in Europe
The full report can be bought from the CIES website and the authors say: ‘From an economic perspective, it is worth highlighting results obtained by some of the clubs that were among those that spent the least to sign players fielded such as Crystal Palace in England, Elche in Spain, Guingamp in France, Augsburg in Germany and Verona in Italy. This publication will allow you to understand what factors permitted these clubs to over-perform.’


More details can be found at http://www.football-observatory.com
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Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:39 am

Just shows what a disaster this season was for us.

People say we were not good enough but I don't agree. You can be good enough but if you don't put in the effort or don't get the tactics right then it is pointless being good enough.

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:05 am

Wow! Puts into perspective how much we had in terms of valuable players and how little we achieved. The biggest kick in the teeth is the difference between our performance compared to Palace. They came up with us but had an amazing end to the season, especially considering it was their first season. Will they suffer second season syndrome though? Only time will tell.

I think it highlights the lack of real gumption and poor tactics. Some of our games were lost before the ball was kicked because of squad selection IMHO. But you can't blame the manager for poor efforts on the field. Too many defensive errors and not enough hunger at the business end.

Let's hope our second campaign in the pl is more positive!

:bluescarf:

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:07 am

What a load of shit :lol:

Yaya Toure only 24m :lol: David Silva 27m :lol:

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:08 am

Kompany 24m lol

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:11 am

Lucky Ian Moody was doing the values Man Citys squad would be worth 3 billion :lol:

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:14 am

Apparently we spent more on players going into the season bar the top 6 clubs or something like that. Mind you a players market value and his going price won't always be the same. Here a player like David Silva who was instrumental in ManC winning the league is valued at 27 mill yet someone like mata went for close to 40 mill. It's not an exact science.

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:15 am

I think the examples of values given for top players is really low, but even so, the comparative values will remain overall I would think. It it the position compared to the value rank which is important in this table. Silva, Toure, Kompany etc are worth in excess of £30m (in some cases way more).

Interesting if not accurate.

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:15 am

LonCar wrote:Apparently we spent more on players going into the season bar the top 6 clubs or something like that. Mind you a players market value and his going price won't always be the same. Here a player like David Silva who was instrumental in ManC winning the league is valued at 27 mill yet someone like mata went for close to 40 mill. It's not an exact science.


Exactly. We spent 8m on cornelius when his market value was a quarter of that.

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:01 am

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
LonCar wrote:Apparently we spent more on players going into the season bar the top 6 clubs or something like that. Mind you a players market value and his going price won't always be the same. Here a player like David Silva who was instrumental in ManC winning the league is valued at 27 mill yet someone like mata went for close to 40 mill. It's not an exact science.


Exactly. We spent 8m on cornelius when his market value was a quarter of that.



Totally!

I have nothing against spending on quality and value for money. We must learn from this!!

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:03 am

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
LonCar wrote:Apparently we spent more on players going into the season bar the top 6 clubs or something like that. Mind you a players market value and his going price won't always be the same. Here a player like David Silva who was instrumental in ManC winning the league is valued at 27 mill yet someone like mata went for close to 40 mill. It's not an exact science.


Exactly. We spent 8m on cornelius when his market value was a quarter of that.


It pains me to think the players ole could of got for 40+ mil milky spent, considering he has already got Macheda, guerra, burgstaller and le fondre in for just 1 mil so far. As players have already stated, they want to play for ole, something I think players did not want to do under milkay, which is the reason he may of had to spend over the odds and sign no bodies.

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:51 am

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Lucky Ian Moody was doing the values Man Citys squad would be worth 3 billion :lol:

:lol:

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:02 pm

carlccfc wrote:Manchester City squad cost £1bn to assemble... but it would cost £311m to buy Sergio Aguero, Yaya Toure and Co

By Nick Harris 00:00 04 Jun 2014, updated 00:28 04 Jun 2014


It cost more than three times as much to assemble, but Manchester City's squad would cost £311m to buy
The findings are from a debate provoking report from the CIES Football Observatory
Sheik Mansour has now spent around £1billion on his Manchester City dream, but if he put every player up for sale this summer he would only be able to recoup £311million in proceeds.

That at least is one debate-provoking conclusion raised by a new report, published today, that assesses the ‘market values’ of players in the squads at the 98 clubs across the top divisions in England, Spain, Italy, Germany and France.

City have the most valuable squad in the Premier League according to experts at the Swiss-based CIES Football Observatory, who rate player values for summer 2014 by a wide range of ‘objective’ factors from age and contract expiry date to position, performance data and international experience.


image.jpg


Market value: The current worth of Premier League squads

City’s most valuable player is Sergio Aguero, CIES say, with a market value of £40m, followed by David Silva (£27m) then Vincent Kompany and Yaya Toure (both around £24m). The whole squad would make £311.3m if sold at market rates in the transfer window, the report says.

Chelsea have the next most valuable squad who played in the Premier League in 2013-14 at £310.5m, followed by Liverpool (£300.8m), Arsenal (£288.7m) and Manchester United (£220.2m). It should be stressed these are sale values at ‘market rates’ this summer for all the players combined, and not what these clubs paid for those players. In many cases, not least at City, the players cost more than they are now worth.

At the other extreme, Fulham’s squad is worth just £30.6m, or less than any 2013-14 Premier League team, and only slightly less than West Brom’s (£32.3m) and Crystal Palace’s (£33.9m).


Key figure: Vincent Kompany's value is around the £24m mark, says the report

Time to cash in? Unhappy Yaya Toure is valued at around the £24m mark also
Across Europe, Barcelona’s squad - with the world’s most valuable player Lionel Messi in it - is rated as worth £478.2m while Real Madrid’s, with Cristiano Ronaldo and Gareth Bale in the ranks, is worth £393.5m in second place.

Bayern Munich are next (£322.6m) followed by City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.

The more a squad is worth, the better it performed in the Premier League in 2013-14, by and large. The top four most valuable squads filled the top four places and most clubs finished within a handful of places of what might be expected given their resources.

The two main exceptions were Palace, who finished in 11th place, or seven places higher than their squad ranked 18th in value; and Cardiff, who finished bottom, or six places lower than a squad worth the 14th most in the division.


Market value: The current worth of Premier League squads

The top of the tree: With a squad value of £478.2m, Barcelona are the most expensive in Europe
The full report can be bought from the CIES website and the authors say: ‘From an economic perspective, it is worth highlighting results obtained by some of the clubs that were among those that spent the least to sign players fielded such as Crystal Palace in England, Elche in Spain, Guingamp in France, Augsburg in Germany and Verona in Italy. This publication will allow you to understand what factors permitted these clubs to over-perform.’


More details can be found at http://www.football-observatory.com

I posted this almost 6.5hrs before you. See post :-
'Expected positions based upon market value.'

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:40 pm

Interesting read that from Cardiff,to Fulham's to Man City's value :thumbup:

Re: ' £1bn TO ASSEMBLE BUT VALUE IS £311m '

Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:48 pm

carlccfc wrote:Wednesday 3rd June 2014.

Manchester City squad cost £1bn to assemble... but it would cost £311m to buy Sergio Aguero, Yaya Toure and Co

By Nick Harris


It cost more than three times as much to assemble, but Manchester City's squad would cost £311m to buy
The findings are from a debate provoking report from the CIES Football Observatory
Sheik Mansour has now spent around £1billion on his Manchester City dream, but if he put every player up for sale this summer he would only be able to recoup £311million in proceeds.

That at least is one debate-provoking conclusion raised by a new report, published today, that assesses the ‘market values’ of players in the squads at the 98 clubs across the top divisions in England, Spain, Italy, Germany and France.

City have the most valuable squad in the Premier League according to experts at the Swiss-based CIES Football Observatory, who rate player values for summer 2014 by a wide range of ‘objective’ factors from age and contract expiry date to position, performance data and international experience.


image.jpg


Market value: The current worth of Premier League squads

City’s most valuable player is Sergio Aguero, CIES say, with a market value of £40m, followed by David Silva (£27m) then Vincent Kompany and Yaya Toure (both around £24m). The whole squad would make £311.3m if sold at market rates in the transfer window, the report says.

Chelsea have the next most valuable squad who played in the Premier League in 2013-14 at £310.5m, followed by Liverpool (£300.8m), Arsenal (£288.7m) and Manchester United (£220.2m). It should be stressed these are sale values at ‘market rates’ this summer for all the players combined, and not what these clubs paid for those players. In many cases, not least at City, the players cost more than they are now worth.

At the other extreme, Fulham’s squad is worth just £30.6m, or less than any 2013-14 Premier League team, and only slightly less than West Brom’s (£32.3m) and Crystal Palace’s (£33.9m).


Key figure: Vincent Kompany's value is around the £24m mark, says the report

Time to cash in? Unhappy Yaya Toure is valued at around the £24m mark also
Across Europe, Barcelona’s squad - with the world’s most valuable player Lionel Messi in it - is rated as worth £478.2m while Real Madrid’s, with Cristiano Ronaldo and Gareth Bale in the ranks, is worth £393.5m in second place.

Bayern Munich are next (£322.6m) followed by City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal.

The more a squad is worth, the better it performed in the Premier League in 2013-14, by and large. The top four most valuable squads filled the top four places and most clubs finished within a handful of places of what might be expected given their resources.

The two main exceptions were Palace, who finished in 11th place, or seven places higher than their squad ranked 18th in value; and Cardiff, who finished bottom, or six places lower than a squad worth the 14th most in the division.


Market value: The current worth of Premier League squads

The top of the tree: With a squad value of £478.2m, Barcelona are the most expensive in Europe
The full report can be bought from the CIES website and the authors say: ‘From an economic perspective, it is worth highlighting results obtained by some of the clubs that were among those that spent the least to sign players fielded such as Crystal Palace in England, Elche in Spain, Guingamp in France, Augsburg in Germany and Verona in Italy. This publication will allow you to understand what factors permitted these clubs to over-perform.’


More details can be found at http://www.football-observatory.com



OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG Look at Crystal Palace they are 7 and we are the worst at -6

OMG I want to puke. Lokk at Norwich to they are -5 but look at Fulham they are 1 so looking at these stats Fulham did better with what they had the we did.

Shameful when you look at it.

It really upsets me

:cry: XXX