Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:11 pm
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Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:55 am
pauly_gee wrote:isn't Berget a striker?
Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:00 am
Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:11 am
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Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:17 am
The Welsh Dragon wrote:pauly_gee wrote:isn't Berget a striker?
Bit of a utility player but CAM is his favoured posistion I believe.
Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:30 am
Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:33 am
Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:35 am
Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:43 am
JamesC wrote:Guerra Macheda
Burgstaller Mutch Whitts Daehli
Fabio Cala Turner McNaughton
Marshall
I think that's pretty much how we'll line up at the start of the season, I think Kev will switch with Brayford eventually, and lose his place altogether, and the midfield will switch around a lot over the course of the season depending on form/injuries/suspension, but I think that line up is good enough to compete for automatic, especially with the strength in depth on the bench.
Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:02 am
pauly_gee wrote:How do you think it will line up? This new left winger seems decent, but we also have Nooney and Dhali there, and as for centre mid (assuming Medel goes but Mitch stays), who do you go with for a 4 man midfield? I expect ole to play 2 up top.
Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:34 pm
Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:35 pm
Dve wrote:Similar to the Norwegian national team, I think Ole will play 4-4-1-1/4-4-2 at home next season with inward wingers and with full backs making long offensive runs. As the full backs run forward, 2 midfielders will be holding to support the defence. I think we are covered pretty well on the winger side already, with Noone, Burgstaller, Dæhli, Berget as natural choices, but Whitts, Gunnarson, Kimbo, Mutch and Fabio could also be used, although I see Gunnarson, Kimbo and Mutch better suited in a 4-5-1 formation (used away). I think where we will see enforcements this summer, is in the defensive midfield area. Playing at home, 4-4-2/4-4-1-1- (or 4-2-2-2/4-2-2-1-1, if you want), Gunnarson, Eikrem, Whitts and Mutch are our best options, besides of Medel if he stays.
I will not be surprised if we see a couple of our current midfielders being shipped out during the summer. Kimbo and Gunnarson? (Along with Mutch and Medel if we get the right offer). Whitts could be useful whatever formation.
In sum, Ole might want to bring in 2 central/defensive midfielders, a centre back and maybe a full back.
Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:47 pm
LonCar wrote:JamesC wrote:Guerra Macheda
Burgstaller Mutch Whitts Daehli
Fabio Cala Turner McNaughton
Marshall
I think that's pretty much how we'll line up at the start of the season, I think Kev will switch with Brayford eventually, and lose his place altogether, and the midfield will switch around a lot over the course of the season depending on form/injuries/suspension, but I think that line up is good enough to compete for automatic, especially with the strength in depth on the bench.
I don't know how good burgsstaller is defensively, but the rest of them are not that strong. I don't think you can play them all together you need a good holding midfielder in the mix.
Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:16 pm
JamesC wrote:LonCar wrote:JamesC wrote:Guerra Macheda
Burgstaller Mutch Whitts Daehli
Fabio Cala Turner McNaughton
Marshall
I think that's pretty much how we'll line up at the start of the season, I think Kev will switch with Brayford eventually, and lose his place altogether, and the midfield will switch around a lot over the course of the season depending on form/injuries/suspension, but I think that line up is good enough to compete for automatic, especially with the strength in depth on the bench.
I don't know how good burgsstaller is defensively, but the rest of them are not that strong. I don't think you can play them all together you need a good holding midfielder in the mix.
Ole will want to use his own signings as much as possible I would guess, but I get what you're saying. I still think the above is a realistic starting line up, with Gunner on the bench to help out defensively if need be.
Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:21 pm
Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:43 pm
Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:13 pm
LonCar wrote:Dve wrote:Similar to the Norwegian national team, I think Ole will play 4-4-1-1/4-4-2 at home next season with inward wingers and with full backs making long offensive runs. As the full backs run forward, 2 midfielders will be holding to support the defence. I think we are covered pretty well on the winger side already, with Noone, Burgstaller, Dæhli, Berget as natural choices, but Whitts, Gunnarson, Kimbo, Mutch and Fabio could also be used, although I see Gunnarson, Kimbo and Mutch better suited in a 4-5-1 formation (used away). I think where we will see enforcements this summer, is in the defensive midfield area. Playing at home, 4-4-2/4-4-1-1- (or 4-2-2-2/4-2-2-1-1, if you want), Gunnarson, Eikrem, Whitts and Mutch are our best options, besides of Medel if he stays.
I will not be surprised if we see a couple of our current midfielders being shipped out during the summer. Kimbo and Gunnarson? (Along with Mutch and Medel if we get the right offer). Whitts could be useful whatever formation.
In sum, Ole might want to bring in 2 central/defensive midfielders, a centre back and maybe a full back.
I am so surprised so many of you see daehli purely as a winger. He is clearly not one he is just versatile in that he can play lm, rm and cam. Guido looks good and offers more protection for the fullback so I think we will see him on the left.
Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:39 pm
Dve wrote:LonCar wrote:Dve wrote:Similar to the Norwegian national team, I think Ole will play 4-4-1-1/4-4-2 at home next season with inward wingers and with full backs making long offensive runs. As the full backs run forward, 2 midfielders will be holding to support the defence. I think we are covered pretty well on the winger side already, with Noone, Burgstaller, Dæhli, Berget as natural choices, but Whitts, Gunnarson, Kimbo, Mutch and Fabio could also be used, although I see Gunnarson, Kimbo and Mutch better suited in a 4-5-1 formation (used away). I think where we will see enforcements this summer, is in the defensive midfield area. Playing at home, 4-4-2/4-4-1-1- (or 4-2-2-2/4-2-2-1-1, if you want), Gunnarson, Eikrem, Whitts and Mutch are our best options, besides of Medel if he stays.
I will not be surprised if we see a couple of our current midfielders being shipped out during the summer. Kimbo and Gunnarson? (Along with Mutch and Medel if we get the right offer). Whitts could be useful whatever formation.
In sum, Ole might want to bring in 2 central/defensive midfielders, a centre back and maybe a full back.
I am so surprised so many of you see daehli purely as a winger. He is clearly not one he is just versatile in that he can play lm, rm and cam. Guido looks good and offers more protection for the fullback so I think we will see him on the left.
According to Høgmo (the Norwegian national coach) Ole and he are frequently discussing where Dæhli should be used at the moment. In time, he could be a number 10, but at least Høgmo seems to be of the opinion that right now he is more useful when he can run with the ball with room in front of him. He will not be tried used as a traditional winger though, running wide, delivering balls into the box. Instead he goes inwards with a full-back outside of him, often ending up in a number 10`s position behind the strikers. Noone, Burgstaller and Berget are all perfectly designed for this kind of play.
In general, I believe Solskjær and Høgmo think very similar about how fotball should be played, where they aim at making triangle formation all over the pitch to create passing alternatives. To make this happen, the full-backs will be as much wingers as defenders, and hence you need two holding midfielders to cover up. This would be the kind of players he is looking for at the moment.