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VT

Sat May 31, 2014 12:55 pm

Vincent Tan will leave this club when the time is right. This means when he can make a profit.

The best thing for the club and us, is for the team to be successful. If Tan leaves we will revert to blue...that's a given.

Most of us know he will not turn us back to blue.

So as fans, do we concentrate on supporting the team or demonstrating? Doing both will just distract the supporters and the team. Last season showed that.

There are a number of (a very small number) fans who put themselves first ........leaders, spokesmen and some praying they get attention from the club. They put themselves first before anything else. If any fan was to be given a voice to represent fans in talks, I think the only one who is capable of doing it with no hidden agenda is "Corky." He's proved himself many times that he has no hidden agenda.

A small number of fans have turned their full support reg. CCFC into "we'll always be blue" etc. One or two claim they talk for "everyone."

This is just my opinion, you read here...."you sold your soul for a bit of success." Meanwhile, they paid their ticket money while we stormed the Championship and while we were in the premiership.

There's a lot of hypocrites out there.

Re: VT

Sat May 31, 2014 1:20 pm

seanpaul wrote:Vincent Tan will leave this club when the time is right. This means when he can make a profit.

The best thing for the club and us, is for the team to be successful. If Tan leaves we will revert to blue...that's a given.

Most of us know he will not turn us back to blue.

So as fans, do we concentrate on supporting the team or demonstrating? Doing both will just distract the supporters and the team. Last season showed that.

There are a number of (a very small number) fans who put themselves first ........leaders, spokesmen and some praying they get attention from the club. They put themselves first before anything else. If any fan was to be given a voice to represent fans in talks, I think the only one who is capable of doing it with no hidden agenda is "Corky." He's proved himself many times that he has no hidden agenda.

A small number of fans have turned their full support reg. CCFC into "we'll always be blue" etc. One or two claim they talk for "everyone."

This is just my opinion, you read here...."you sold your soul for a bit of success." Meanwhile, they paid their ticket money while we stormed the Championship and while we were in the premiership.

There's a lot of hypocrites out there.


those that wanted success at all costs..........................thats the one that gets me.........
only a handful asked for their ST money back at the time of rebrand...........and the protests gathered momentum when results fell off........it seems to me those shouting success at all costs are actually those most effected by results.......

Re: VT

Sat May 31, 2014 1:28 pm

These two posts are completely on the money. More on this forum are wising up to this fact and the sooner everyone does then the better! This argument is not about the club, it's about individuals and they're need to be at the top or in the centre of things

Re: VT

Sat May 31, 2014 1:55 pm

Total over thought bullshit!

The majority of our fans don't read message boards and don't even know so called fans leaders!

They just want to watch football and their team is Cardiff City.

The debt is not theirs it's the club's something we will never own and never run.

Too many of our fans think that they are more important than others, even on this message board there seems to be an hierarchy of faceless fans using pseudonyms.

There even seems to be a contest of fans who are trying to prove that they hated the Prem. more than anyone else.

I'll be wearing blue to games when the new season starts and will enjoy the trials and torment as well as the euphoria of the Championship.
But I wont be worrying about the politics that are out of the fans control.

Re: VT

Sat May 31, 2014 2:02 pm

Bluetwin wrote:Total over thought bullshit!

The majority of our fans don't read message boards and don't even know so called fans leaders!

They just want to watch football and their team is Cardiff City.

The debt is not theirs it's the club's something we will never own and never run.

Too many of our fans think that they are more important than others, even on this message board there seems to be an hierarchy of faceless fans using pseudonyms.

There even seems to be a contest of fans who are trying to prove that they hated the Prem. more than anyone else.

I'll be wearing blue to games when the new season starts and will enjoy the trials and torment as well as the euphoria of the Championship.
But I wont be worrying about the politics that are out of the fans control.



I agree with you. My point is there are a few fans who think they are Mr Cardiff City. Football is about supporting your team.

Also, Ive said for a long time no one gives a toss about a few dozen ppl on mb's.

My post is just my opinion, this demonstrating and I'm so perfect etc. is a load of bullshit.

Re: VT

Sat May 31, 2014 2:33 pm

Surely if some people are shareholders of the club then they have ever right to be worried about the debt which the club is in

Re: VT

Sat May 31, 2014 2:39 pm

Military Junta wrote:Surely if some people are shareholders of the club then they have ever right to be worried about the debt which the club is in


If they are shareholders they would have an interest in the debt.

However I doubt there are too many of them spouting off on messageboards.

Re: VT

Sat May 31, 2014 2:42 pm

Bluetwin wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Surely if some people are shareholders of the club then they have ever right to be worried about the debt which the club is in


If they are shareholders they would have an interest in the debt.

However I doubt there are too many of spouting off on messageboards.


Well there are a number (small maybe) but a number of shareholders who are posters on this forum and looking at the comments being made then I think they are targeting posters who are also shareholders

Re: VT

Sat May 31, 2014 2:47 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Bluetwin wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Surely if some people are shareholders of the club then they have ever right to be worried about the debt which the club is in


If they are shareholders they would have an interest in the debt.

However I doubt there are too many of spouting off on messageboards.


Well there are a number (small maybe) but a number of shareholders who are posters on this forum and looking at the comments being made then I think they are targeting posters who are also shareholders


OK I concede.

I'm referring to the vast majority of fans who are not shareholders!

Re: VT

Sat May 31, 2014 2:49 pm

Military Junta wrote:Surely if some people are shareholders of the club then they have ever right to be worried about the debt which the club is in


nobody is going to be knocking on doors lookin for millions...........are they.........and if they had serious worries the answer is sell the shares..........they would be snapped up,if not by Tan,by fans just wanting to say they own a few shares.........non argument sorry

Re: VT

Sat May 31, 2014 2:53 pm

simon.wiesenthal wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Surely if some people are shareholders of the club then they have ever right to be worried about the debt which the club is in


nobody is going to be knocking on doors lookin for millions...........are they.........and if they had serious worries the answer is sell the shares..........they would be snapped up,if not by Tan,by fans just wanting to say they own a few shares.........non argument sorry


The club have stopped people in getting rid of their shares. Because its not a PLC then you require authorisation from the club to sell you shares but they have stopped people trading their shares to others for the past 18 months