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' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 6:46 am

Gary Medel Will be loaned to Valencia and return when we get promoted :ayatollah:

Re: Gary medel loan

Fri May 30, 2014 6:50 am

No thanks to lazy and overweight, please sell ole.

Re: Gary medel loan

Fri May 30, 2014 6:56 am

He will not be loaned to them as city have already turned that cheeky arrangement down :thumbup:

Re: Gary medel loan

Fri May 30, 2014 7:18 am

BobbyBlue wrote:No thanks to lazy and overweight, please sell ole.


This is going to sting.....

Your comment shows you know nothing about what makes a good player.

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 7:43 am

Valencia,Sevilla and Malaga have all shown big interest in Medel.

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 7:47 am

Would prefer the money tbh

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 7:59 am

Sell him and get the cash. Second half of the season he was nothing better than poor.

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 8:33 am

thomasblue wrote:Gary Medel Will be loaned to Valencia and return when we get promoted :ayatollah:

If he is not with us next season then I hope it is a full transfer out.

Re: Gary medel loan

Fri May 30, 2014 10:11 am

BobbyBlue wrote:No thanks to lazy and overweight, please sell ole.


His fitness should be alot better but he's not lazy :o .

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 10:20 am

IF he could have a good defensive midfield partner he would be very good for us

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 10:21 am

whats his value £3-£4 m ?

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 10:22 am

Sell him. He evidently can't cut it in the Premier League because of the tempo and his lack of fitness. We'll just see the same thing happen again, go to Spain, play in lower tempo matches then come back here and look out of his depth again. Just get rid now.

Re: Gary medel loan

Fri May 30, 2014 12:55 pm

Skewett wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:No thanks to lazy and overweight, please sell ole.


This is going to sting.....

Your comment shows you know nothing about what makes a good player.


Agree

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 12:58 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Sell him. He evidently can't cut it in the Premier League because of the tempo and his lack of fitness. We'll just see the same thing happen again, go to Spain, play in lower tempo matches then come back here and look out of his depth again. Just get rid now.


I agree with this to be honest, the number of times he was left ball watching and lost his man was just not good enough for his position. Bit of a headless chicken, in saying that I did like him. but if we can get around 5m then I think we will be getting over his worth.

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 2:55 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Sell him and get the cash. Second half of the season he was nothing better than poor.


strange old world where our record signing is poor...........he will also become the player we receive the biggest transfer fee for.......very good player in a poor team is what i saw..........

Re: Gary medel loan

Fri May 30, 2014 3:12 pm

Skewett wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:No thanks to lazy and overweight, please sell ole.


This is going to sting.....

Your comment shows you know nothing about what makes a good player.


He's clueless, I tried rationally debating with him a couple of days ago and I 100% disagreed with everything he said.

Medel was great for us the first half of the season but was left completely exposed as soon as Ole took over with his gung ho, disorganised football. Even Claude Makelele in his prime would have been made to look an atrocious holding midfielder in Ole's team.

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 3:18 pm

simon.wiesenthal wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Sell him and get the cash. Second half of the season he was nothing better than poor.


strange old world where our record signing is poor...........he will also become the player we receive the biggest transfer fee for.................


Very good players keep themselves fit and in condition. There's no excuse for a professional player being so out of condition as he was.

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 3:20 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Sell him. He evidently can't cut it in the Premier League because of the tempo and his lack of fitness. We'll just see the same thing happen again, go to Spain, play in lower tempo matches then come back here and look out of his depth again. Just get rid now.


I agree with this to be honest, the number of times he was left ball watching and lost his man was just not good enough for his position. Bit of a headless chicken, in saying that I did like him. but if we can get around 5m then I think we will be getting over his worth.


So was he ball watching, or was he a headless chicken? You've completely contradicted yourself there.

Medel had to do way more running around than a player in his position should have. A normal holding midfield sits in front of the back four in the centre, breaks up play and gives it simple to start attacks. Unfortunately for Medel, he was getting pulled from one side of the pitch to the other. The Norwich home game, Medel closed down three different players one after another while Whittingham was stood there motionless. Then as soon as Medel gets dragged out of position to do someone elses job, the opposition break through the middle to score and people point the finger at Medel saying he's too lazy and unfit to track back and was caught out of position ball watching. Incredible.

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 5:38 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Sell him. He evidently can't cut it in the Premier League because of the tempo and his lack of fitness. We'll just see the same thing happen again, go to Spain, play in lower tempo matches then come back here and look out of his depth again. Just get rid now.


I agree with this to be honest, the number of times he was left ball watching and lost his man was just not good enough for his position. Bit of a headless chicken, in saying that I did like him. but if we can get around 5m then I think we will be getting over his worth.


So was he ball watching, or was he a headless chicken? You've completely contradicted yourself there.

Medel had to do way more running around than a player in his position should have. A normal holding midfield sits in front of the back four in the centre, breaks up play and gives it simple to start attacks. Unfortunately for Medel, he was getting pulled from one side of the pitch to the other. The Norwich home game, Medel closed down three different players one after another while Whittingham was stood there motionless. Then as soon as Medel gets dragged out of position to do someone elses job, the opposition break through the middle to score and people point the finger at Medel saying he's too lazy and unfit to track back and was caught out of position ball watching. Incredible.


I agree Tonteg.
Until MM went he would have been my player of the season & up there on a par with Marshall. After that he tailed off a bit but was still good enough & was pretty average in the last period of the season.
Watching him was a joy most of the time: breaking up play & being the link & keeping it simple. Always looking for the ball off other players to keep the moves going & very, very rarely giving it away.
People seem to want huge cross field & defence splitting passes from him but that's not his game.

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 5:43 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Sell him. He evidently can't cut it in the Premier League because of the tempo and his lack of fitness. We'll just see the same thing happen again, go to Spain, play in lower tempo matches then come back here and look out of his depth again. Just get rid now.


The league is a very good standard
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Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 5:43 pm

Total waste of money, another of Malky Milkays flops. Huddlestone cost over half less than Medel, and he's twice the player Medel is. When did any1 see Medel put a long accurate pass up field like huddlestone, never because all he does is pass sideways and backwards, overpriced and overweight.

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 5:48 pm

CardiffCityBlue wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Sell him. He evidently can't cut it in the Premier League because of the tempo and his lack of fitness. We'll just see the same thing happen again, go to Spain, play in lower tempo matches then come back here and look out of his depth again. Just get rid now.


The league is a very good standard



Okay then

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 6:07 pm

What,the league who have just produced the two teams, contesting the champions league final? Plus will provide the two finalists for the super cup at ccs ? A poor league it obviously aint! Thank feck some of our fans do any transfer business for the club eh?

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 6:12 pm

bluesince62 wrote:What,the league who have just produced the two teams, contesting the champions league final? Plus will provide the two finalists for the super cup at ccs ? A poor league it obviously aint! Thank feck some of our fans do any transfer business for the club eh?



What on earth are you rambling about? Who has said La Liga is a poor league?

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 6:31 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CardiffCityBlue wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Sell him. He evidently can't cut it in the Premier League because of the tempo and his lack of fitness. We'll just see the same thing happen again, go to Spain, play in lower tempo matches then come back here and look out of his depth again. Just get rid now.


The league is a very good standard



Okay then


much better football :thumbright:

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 6:37 pm

CardiffCityBlue wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CardiffCityBlue wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Sell him. He evidently can't cut it in the Premier League because of the tempo and his lack of fitness. We'll just see the same thing happen again, go to Spain, play in lower tempo matches then come back here and look out of his depth again. Just get rid now.


The league is a very good standard



Okay then


much better football :thumbright:



If you like slow, mundane possession football then I guess so.

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 6:47 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CardiffCityBlue wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CardiffCityBlue wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Sell him. He evidently can't cut it in the Premier League because of the tempo and his lack of fitness. We'll just see the same thing happen again, go to Spain, play in lower tempo matches then come back here and look out of his depth again. Just get rid now.


The league is a very good standard



Okay then


much better football :thumbright:



If you like slow, mundane possession football then I guess so.


4 teams in the 2 finals that's without barca being one ,yes very good standard :thumbright:

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Fri May 30, 2014 6:52 pm

CardiffCityBlue wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CardiffCityBlue wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CardiffCityBlue wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Sell him. He evidently can't cut it in the Premier League because of the tempo and his lack of fitness. We'll just see the same thing happen again, go to Spain, play in lower tempo matches then come back here and look out of his depth again. Just get rid now.


The league is a very good standard



Okay then


much better football :thumbright:



If you like slow, mundane possession football then I guess so.


4 teams in the 2 finals that's without barca being one ,yes very good standard :thumbright:



What? I've never said it isn't a good standard. I just don't like the style of football played in Spain, how hard is that to understand?

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Sat May 31, 2014 3:11 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Sell him. He evidently can't cut it in the Premier League because of the tempo and his lack of fitness. We'll just see the same thing happen again, go to Spain, play in lower tempo matches then come back here and look out of his depth again. Just get rid now.


I agree with this to be honest, the number of times he was left ball watching and lost his man was just not good enough for his position. Bit of a headless chicken, in saying that I did like him. but if we can get around 5m then I think we will be getting over his worth.


So was he ball watching, or was he a headless chicken? You've completely contradicted yourself there.

Medel had to do way more running around than a player in his position should have. A normal holding midfield sits in front of the back four in the centre, breaks up play and gives it simple to start attacks. Unfortunately for Medel, he was getting pulled from one side of the pitch to the other. The Norwich home game, Medel closed down three different players one after another while Whittingham was stood there motionless. Then as soon as Medel gets dragged out of position to do someone elses job, the opposition break through the middle to score and people point the finger at Medel saying he's too lazy and unfit to track back and was caught out of position ball watching. Incredible.


Why is that a contradiction, its only a contradiction if I said he was doing it at the same time which would be a bit odd :lol: . I would say thought that a general theme of his games was running around like a headless chicken for say 60mins and then struggling badly for the remainder of the game, his fitness didnt allow him to keep up his concentration, he would often then ball watch and lose his markers.

At the end of the day a good defensive midfidlers wouldnt be getting dragged out of position. I think if he did less work and held his position better he would have made life for him and us a lot easier. I certainly dont think he was lazy, he gave it all he had but his fitness was just not good enough.
I dont see us getting anywhere near our money back, if we can get half back then I would be pleased.

Re: ' Gary Medel '

Sat May 31, 2014 4:18 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Sell him. He evidently can't cut it in the Premier League because of the tempo and his lack of fitness. We'll just see the same thing happen again, go to Spain, play in lower tempo matches then come back here and look out of his depth again. Just get rid now.


I agree with this to be honest, the number of times he was left ball watching and lost his man was just not good enough for his position. Bit of a headless chicken, in saying that I did like him. but if we can get around 5m then I think we will be getting over his worth.


So was he ball watching, or was he a headless chicken? You've completely contradicted yourself there.

Medel had to do way more running around than a player in his position should have. A normal holding midfield sits in front of the back four in the centre, breaks up play and gives it simple to start attacks. Unfortunately for Medel, he was getting pulled from one side of the pitch to the other. The Norwich home game, Medel closed down three different players one after another while Whittingham was stood there motionless. Then as soon as Medel gets dragged out of position to do someone elses job, the opposition break through the middle to score and people point the finger at Medel saying he's too lazy and unfit to track back and was caught out of position ball watching. Incredible.


Why is that a contradiction, its only a contradiction if I said he was doing it at the same time which would be a bit odd :lol: . I would say thought that a general theme of his games was running around like a headless chicken for say 60mins and then struggling badly for the remainder of the game, his fitness didnt allow him to keep up his concentration, he would often then ball watch and lose his markers.

At the end of the day a good defensive midfidlers wouldnt be getting dragged out of position. I think if he did less work and held his position better he would have made life for him and us a lot easier. I certainly dont think he was lazy, he gave it all he had but his fitness was just not good enough.
I dont see us getting anywhere near our money back, if we can get half back then I would be pleased.


Medel seemed to have no problems holding his position for Sevilla or for Chile. The difference is with us, he got dragged out of position because he was covering those in front of him and alongside him letting him down. I go back to my point at the Norwich home game where Whittingham wasn't doing his job. There were other games where Medel kept getting dragged to the left to cover Whittingham and Taylor getting taken apart down that side for example. Declan John was constantly exposed home to Liverpool meaning Medel continuously got dragged out of position to cover. Another game Zaha wasn't tracking back leaving Catherine exposed with 2 players attacking him. If other players did their job, Medel would have been able to hold his position in the middle, but unfortunately because of circumstances, that was impossible.