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Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 12:25 pm

Interesting point , I don't think it has ever happened with our club but we could potentially start games next season with a totally foreign starting 11 if we sign another centre back and goalkeeper .

Nyland - if marshall goes he sounds like the obvious replacement

Theopile - french
New centre back if caulker goes
Cala - spanish
Fabio - brazilian

Dahlei - norway
Gunnarsson - Iceland
Bergstacker - Austria
Kimbo - Korean

Macheda - Italian
Guerra - Spanish

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 12:40 pm

I hope Theophile is nowhere near Cardiff never mind the starting 11

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 12:42 pm

It could happen, but it won't for the majority of the season.

If Mutch stays, he's a guaranteed starter. Whitts is then likely to be part of Ole's plans in The Championship, while we'll also have the likes of Hudson, Connolly and Turner all vying for Caulker's spot in the team.

Oh, and let's not forget the potential signing of 22-goal Lewis Grabban.

I'll be very worried if Theophile-Catherine is getting in that team ahead of Connolly. :lol:

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 12:45 pm

Or

Westwood if Marshall goes
John Turner Hudson brayford
Bergstaller whitts gunnar noone
Mutch
Guerra

Plenty of British players with championship experience

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 12:47 pm

thomasblue wrote:Interesting point , I don't think it has ever happened with our club but we could potentially start games next season with a totally foreign starting 11 if we sign another centre back and goalkeeper .

Nyland - if marshall goes he sounds like the obvious replacement

Theopile - french
New centre back if caulker goes
Cala - spanish
Fabio - brazilian

Dahlei - norway
Gunnarsson - Iceland
Bergstacker - Austria
Kimbo - Korean

Macheda - Italian
Guerra - Spanish

Don't think Theophile is a starter next season. Have my doubts about Kim getting a regular spot too.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 12:47 pm

Reza wrote:Or

Westwood if Marshall goes
John Turner Hudson brayford
Bergstaller whitts gunnar noone
Mutch
Guerra

Plenty of British players with championship experience

Gunnar? Hopeful not.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 1:19 pm

Brayford will start if he wants to stay.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 1:27 pm

Also, why would Ole start no wingers?

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 4:49 pm

LonCar wrote:
Reza wrote:Or

Westwood if Marshall goes
John Turner Hudson brayford
Bergstaller whitts gunnar noone
Mutch
Guerra

Plenty of British players with championship experience

Gunnar? Hopeful not.



Gunnar is quality in the championship solid and if u haven't forgotten got few goals to,fills the whole of medel with more threat to,mutch may still leave so I'd expect daehli in the ten role

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 5:09 pm

Technically unless John starts we will have a foreign eleven

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 5:47 pm

Reza wrote:
LonCar wrote:
Reza wrote:Or

Westwood if Marshall goes
John Turner Hudson brayford
Bergstaller whitts gunnar noone
Mutch
Guerra

Plenty of British players with championship experience

Gunnar? Hopeful not.



Gunnar is quality in the championship solid and if u haven't forgotten got few goals to,fills the whole of medel with more threat to,mutch may still leave so I'd expect daehli in the ten role

Its all about the style though. OGS wants to play fast possession based football don't see Gunnar fitting into that. Get a holding midfielder with pace, accuracy and a good first touch

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 6:43 pm

My current team would be as follows:

Marshall - Scottish

Fabio (Brazilian)
Turner (English)
Cala (Spanish)
Connolly (English)

Daehli (Norwegian)
Whittingham (English)
Mutch (English)
Noone (English)

Guerra (Spanish)
Campbell (English)

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 6:59 pm

I agree it probably won't happen straight away but its certainly a possibility at some point in the season , especially if you look at the signings ole has made they are mainly foreign .

I can't remember ever having this many non british players in a Cardiff squad

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 7:02 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:My current team would be as follows:

Marshall - Scottish

Fabio (Brazilian)
Turner (English)
Cala (Spanish)
Connolly (English)

Daehli (Norwegian)
Whittingham (English)
Mutch (English)
Noone (English)

Guerra (Spanish)
Campbell (English)



Powderpuff midfield. Also why Connolly over Brayford?

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 7:13 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:My current team would be as follows:

Marshall - Scottish

Fabio (Brazilian)
Turner (English)
Cala (Spanish)
Connolly (English)

Daehli (Norwegian)
Whittingham (English)
Mutch (English)
Noone (English)

Guerra (Spanish)
Campbell (English)



Powderpuff midfield. Also why Connolly over Brayford?


This is why I keep going on about us needing a midfield general. Away from home, I would drop one of the strikers, switch to 4-5-1 and put Gunnarsson or Cowie in the middle. I've chosen Connolly over Brayford because with Noone down the right, we need someone solid defensively behind him. Having an attacking, overlapping Brayford bombing forwards will force Noone to do more tracking back than attacking, which will kill his impact.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 7:25 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:My current team would be as follows:

Marshall - Scottish

Fabio (Brazilian)
Turner (English)
Cala (Spanish)
Connolly (English)

Daehli (Norwegian)
Whittingham (English)
Mutch (English)
Noone (English)

Guerra (Spanish)
Campbell (English)



Powderpuff midfield. Also why Connolly over Brayford?


This is why I keep going on about us needing a midfield general. Away from home, I would drop one of the strikers, switch to 4-5-1 and put Gunnarsson or Cowie in the middle. I've chosen Connolly over Brayford because with Noone down the right, we need someone solid defensively behind him. Having an attacking, overlapping Brayford bombing forwards will force Noone to do more tracking back than attacking, which will kill his impact.



Brayford can do the defensive job, no? Connolly was average at defending in both divisions, he doesn't fill me with confidence.

I don't think Ole will play 4-4-2 anyway. Really doesn't suit the players we have.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 7:37 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:My current team would be as follows:

Marshall - Scottish

Fabio (Brazilian)
Turner (English)
Cala (Spanish)
Connolly (English)

Daehli (Norwegian)
Whittingham (English)
Mutch (English)
Noone (English)

Guerra (Spanish)
Campbell (English)



Powderpuff midfield. Also why Connolly over Brayford?


This is why I keep going on about us needing a midfield general. Away from home, I would drop one of the strikers, switch to 4-5-1 and put Gunnarsson or Cowie in the middle. I've chosen Connolly over Brayford because with Noone down the right, we need someone solid defensively behind him. Having an attacking, overlapping Brayford bombing forwards will force Noone to do more tracking back than attacking, which will kill his impact.



Brayford can do the defensive job, no? Connolly was average at defending in both divisions, he doesn't fill me with confidence.

I don't think Ole will play 4-4-2 anyway. Really doesn't suit the players we have.


I'm sure Brayford can defend but he loves bombing forwards. I would play Cowie down the right to drop back and cover if Brayford was right back. Or if we play 3-5-2 we can have Brayford and Fabio/John as wing backs with 3 of Connolly, Cala, Hudson and Turner as centre backs. Noone wouldn't be featuring under that system mind. I thought Connolly was a very important player for us when we got promoted and I think we need characters like him at the club. What formation would you play then with our current squad?

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 7:40 pm

If Scotland vote yes Marshall will count as foreign anyway.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 7:47 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:My current team would be as follows:

Marshall - Scottish

Fabio (Brazilian)
Turner (English)
Cala (Spanish)
Connolly (English)

Daehli (Norwegian)
Whittingham (English)
Mutch (English)
Noone (English)

Guerra (Spanish)
Campbell (English)



Powderpuff midfield. Also why Connolly over Brayford?


This is why I keep going on about us needing a midfield general. Away from home, I would drop one of the strikers, switch to 4-5-1 and put Gunnarsson or Cowie in the middle. I've chosen Connolly over Brayford because with Noone down the right, we need someone solid defensively behind him. Having an attacking, overlapping Brayford bombing forwards will force Noone to do more tracking back than attacking, which will kill his impact.



Brayford can do the defensive job, no? Connolly was average at defending in both divisions, he doesn't fill me with confidence.

I don't think Ole will play 4-4-2 anyway. Really doesn't suit the players we have.


I'm sure Brayford can defend but he loves bombing forwards. I would play Cowie down the right to drop back and cover if Brayford was right back. Or if we play 3-5-2 we can have Brayford and Fabio/John as wing backs with 3 of Connolly, Cala, Hudson and Turner as centre backs. Noone wouldn't be featuring under that system mind. I thought Connolly was a very important player for us when we got promoted and I think we need characters like him at the club. What formation would you play then with our current squad?



As does nearly every modern full back. He won't bomb forward as much as Fabio (natural wing back) does for example yet you have him behind Dhaeli who isn't known for tracking back.

He played his part but didn't stand out really. Good to have around because of his versatility but very average.

4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 (mainly 4-2-3-1 though)

Marshall
Brayford Cala Turner/New CB Fabio
New CDM Mutch
Burgstaller Dhaeli Noone
Guerra

That's of course if players like Cala, Marshall and Noone stay.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 7:51 pm

No.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 7:51 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:My current team would be as follows:

Marshall - Scottish

Fabio (Brazilian)
Turner (English)
Cala (Spanish)
Connolly (English)

Daehli (Norwegian)
Whittingham (English)
Mutch (English)
Noone (English)

Guerra (Spanish)
Campbell (English)



Powderpuff midfield. Also why Connolly over Brayford?


This is why I keep going on about us needing a midfield general. Away from home, I would drop one of the strikers, switch to 4-5-1 and put Gunnarsson or Cowie in the middle. I've chosen Connolly over Brayford because with Noone down the right, we need someone solid defensively behind him. Having an attacking, overlapping Brayford bombing forwards will force Noone to do more tracking back than attacking, which will kill his impact.



Brayford can do the defensive job, no? Connolly was average at defending in both divisions, he doesn't fill me with confidence.

I don't think Ole will play 4-4-2 anyway. Really doesn't suit the players we have.


I'm sure Brayford can defend but he loves bombing forwards. I would play Cowie down the right to drop back and cover if Brayford was right back. Or if we play 3-5-2 we can have Brayford and Fabio/John as wing backs with 3 of Connolly, Cala, Hudson and Turner as centre backs. Noone wouldn't be featuring under that system mind. I thought Connolly was a very important player for us when we got promoted and I think we need characters like him at the club. What formation would you play then with our current squad?



As does nearly every modern full back. He won't bomb forward as much as Fabio (natural wing back) does for example yet you have him behind Dhaeli who isn't known for tracking back.

He played his part but didn't stand out really. Good to have around because of his versatility but very average.

4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 (mainly 4-2-3-1 though)

Marshall
Brayford Cala Turner/New CB Fabio
New CDM Mutch
Burgstaller Dhaeli Noone
Guerra

That's of course if players like Cala, Marshall and Noone stay.


Modern full backs push forward so the CB and defensive midfielder either steps into a CB 'back three' or simply covers that area where the full back vacates. Brayford and Fabio will do fine, especially if we bring in a midfield enforcer type player.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 7:55 pm

RFMH wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:My current team would be as follows:

Marshall - Scottish

Fabio (Brazilian)
Turner (English)
Cala (Spanish)
Connolly (English)

Daehli (Norwegian)
Whittingham (English)
Mutch (English)
Noone (English)

Guerra (Spanish)
Campbell (English)



Powderpuff midfield. Also why Connolly over Brayford?


This is why I keep going on about us needing a midfield general. Away from home, I would drop one of the strikers, switch to 4-5-1 and put Gunnarsson or Cowie in the middle. I've chosen Connolly over Brayford because with Noone down the right, we need someone solid defensively behind him. Having an attacking, overlapping Brayford bombing forwards will force Noone to do more tracking back than attacking, which will kill his impact.



Brayford can do the defensive job, no? Connolly was average at defending in both divisions, he doesn't fill me with confidence.

I don't think Ole will play 4-4-2 anyway. Really doesn't suit the players we have.


I'm sure Brayford can defend but he loves bombing forwards. I would play Cowie down the right to drop back and cover if Brayford was right back. Or if we play 3-5-2 we can have Brayford and Fabio/John as wing backs with 3 of Connolly, Cala, Hudson and Turner as centre backs. Noone wouldn't be featuring under that system mind. I thought Connolly was a very important player for us when we got promoted and I think we need characters like him at the club. What formation would you play then with our current squad?



As does nearly every modern full back. He won't bomb forward as much as Fabio (natural wing back) does for example yet you have him behind Dhaeli who isn't known for tracking back.

He played his part but didn't stand out really. Good to have around because of his versatility but very average.

4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 (mainly 4-2-3-1 though)

Marshall
Brayford Cala Turner/New CB Fabio
New CDM Mutch
Burgstaller Dhaeli Noone
Guerra

That's of course if players like Cala, Marshall and Noone stay.


Modern full backs push forward so the CB and defensive midfielder either steps into a CB 'back three' or simply covers that area where the full back vacates. Brayford and Fabio will do fine, especially if we bring in a midfield enforcer type player.



Agree. That was the point I was making.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 7:58 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
RFMH wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:My current team would be as follows:

Marshall - Scottish

Fabio (Brazilian)
Turner (English)
Cala (Spanish)
Connolly (English)

Daehli (Norwegian)
Whittingham (English)
Mutch (English)
Noone (English)

Guerra (Spanish)
Campbell (English)



Powderpuff midfield. Also why Connolly over Brayford?


This is why I keep going on about us needing a midfield general. Away from home, I would drop one of the strikers, switch to 4-5-1 and put Gunnarsson or Cowie in the middle. I've chosen Connolly over Brayford because with Noone down the right, we need someone solid defensively behind him. Having an attacking, overlapping Brayford bombing forwards will force Noone to do more tracking back than attacking, which will kill his impact.



Brayford can do the defensive job, no? Connolly was average at defending in both divisions, he doesn't fill me with confidence.

I don't think Ole will play 4-4-2 anyway. Really doesn't suit the players we have.


I'm sure Brayford can defend but he loves bombing forwards. I would play Cowie down the right to drop back and cover if Brayford was right back. Or if we play 3-5-2 we can have Brayford and Fabio/John as wing backs with 3 of Connolly, Cala, Hudson and Turner as centre backs. Noone wouldn't be featuring under that system mind. I thought Connolly was a very important player for us when we got promoted and I think we need characters like him at the club. What formation would you play then with our current squad?



As does nearly every modern full back. He won't bomb forward as much as Fabio (natural wing back) does for example yet you have him behind Dhaeli who isn't known for tracking back.

He played his part but didn't stand out really. Good to have around because of his versatility but very average.

4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 (mainly 4-2-3-1 though)

Marshall
Brayford Cala Turner/New CB Fabio
New CDM Mutch
Burgstaller Dhaeli Noone
Guerra

That's of course if players like Cala, Marshall and Noone stay.


Modern full backs push forward so the CB and defensive midfielder either steps into a CB 'back three' or simply covers that area where the full back vacates. Brayford and Fabio will do fine, especially if we bring in a midfield enforcer type player.



Agree. That was the point I was making.


Agreed but we don't have a player like that at the moment, unless we use Gunnarsson or Cowie there. This is why I've been banging on about us getting a midfield general for weeks. If only someone like Shaun Derry was a few years younger. Maybe this Cameroonian we're looking at from Osasuna could fill the void?

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 8:02 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
RFMH wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:My current team would be as follows:

Marshall - Scottish

Fabio (Brazilian)
Turner (English)
Cala (Spanish)
Connolly (English)

Daehli (Norwegian)
Whittingham (English)
Mutch (English)
Noone (English)

Guerra (Spanish)
Campbell (English)



Powderpuff midfield. Also why Connolly over Brayford?


This is why I keep going on about us needing a midfield general. Away from home, I would drop one of the strikers, switch to 4-5-1 and put Gunnarsson or Cowie in the middle. I've chosen Connolly over Brayford because with Noone down the right, we need someone solid defensively behind him. Having an attacking, overlapping Brayford bombing forwards will force Noone to do more tracking back than attacking, which will kill his impact.



Brayford can do the defensive job, no? Connolly was average at defending in both divisions, he doesn't fill me with confidence.

I don't think Ole will play 4-4-2 anyway. Really doesn't suit the players we have.


I'm sure Brayford can defend but he loves bombing forwards. I would play Cowie down the right to drop back and cover if Brayford was right back. Or if we play 3-5-2 we can have Brayford and Fabio/John as wing backs with 3 of Connolly, Cala, Hudson and Turner as centre backs. Noone wouldn't be featuring under that system mind. I thought Connolly was a very important player for us when we got promoted and I think we need characters like him at the club. What formation would you play then with our current squad?



As does nearly every modern full back. He won't bomb forward as much as Fabio (natural wing back) does for example yet you have him behind Dhaeli who isn't known for tracking back.

He played his part but didn't stand out really. Good to have around because of his versatility but very average.

4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 (mainly 4-2-3-1 though)

Marshall
Brayford Cala Turner/New CB Fabio
New CDM Mutch
Burgstaller Dhaeli Noone
Guerra

That's of course if players like Cala, Marshall and Noone stay.


Modern full backs push forward so the CB and defensive midfielder either steps into a CB 'back three' or simply covers that area where the full back vacates. Brayford and Fabio will do fine, especially if we bring in a midfield enforcer type player.



Agree. That was the point I was making.


Agreed but we don't have a player like that at the moment, unless we use Gunnarsson or Cowie there. This is why I've been banging on about us getting a midfield general for weeks. If only someone like Shaun Derry was a few years younger. Maybe this Cameroonian we're looking at from Osasuna could fill the void?



He should do. A real shame that we do not have one, I thought Medel would do that but sadly didn't. If we go into next season without bite in midfield then I'll be worried.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 8:34 pm

thomasblue wrote:Interesting point , I don't think it has ever happened with our club but we could potentially start games next season with a totally foreign starting 11 if we sign another centre back and goalkeeper .

Nyland - if marshall goes he sounds like the obvious replacement

Theopile - french
New centre back if caulker goes
Cala - spanish
Fabio - brazilian

Dahlei - norway
Gunnarsson - Iceland
Bergstacker - Austria
Kimbo - Korean

Macheda - Italian
Guerra - Spanish



Manager OGS too.....

I posted yesterday, we are not your normal British based Championship team, it will be interesting to see how it works out OGS signs mostly foreign players, so we will probably have a few more.....

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 9:57 pm

thomasblue wrote:Interesting point , I don't think it has ever happened with our club but we could potentially start games next season with a totally foreign starting 11 if we sign another centre back and goalkeeper .

Nyland - if marshall goes he sounds like the obvious replacement

Theopile - french
New centre back if caulker goes
Cala - spanish
Fabio - brazilian

Dahlei - norway
Gunnarsson - Iceland
Bergstacker - Austria
Kimbo - Korean

Macheda - Italian
Guerra - Spanish


I hope we have some British players included with fight and passion,that is your backbone of a successful Championship side for me :thumbup:

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Mon May 26, 2014 10:45 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:My current team would be as follows:

Marshall - Scottish

Fabio (Brazilian)
Turner (English)
Cala (Spanish)
Connolly (English)

Daehli (Norwegian)
Whittingham (English)
Mutch (English)
Noone (English)

Guerra (Spanish)
Campbell (English)



Powderpuff midfield. Also why Connolly over Brayford?


This is why I keep going on about us needing a midfield general. Away from home, I would drop one of the strikers, switch to 4-5-1 and put Gunnarsson or Cowie in the middle. I've chosen Connolly over Brayford because with Noone down the right, we need someone solid defensively behind him. Having an attacking, overlapping Brayford bombing forwards will force Noone to do more tracking back than attacking, which will kill his impact.

Ogs is reported looking at a player like raoul loe, that guy is anything but powderpuff. I think he will bring in a powerful, hard tackling, defensive midfielder. He will do a big overhaul of the squad IMO.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Tue May 27, 2014 12:02 pm

-----------------------Nyland-----------------------
Brayford----Cala--------------New CB----Fabio
Noone----Gunnarson----Eikrem----Burgstaller
------------------------Dæhli-----------------------
-----------------------Guerra-----------------------


Sell Mutch, Kim, Medel, Kenwyne.

Re: Could we have a fully foreign starting 11 next season

Tue May 27, 2014 7:43 pm

what a shit team that would be