O/T nigel Farage

What a tosser

What a tosser

Agree but he's no more of a prat than Cameron or milliband

Quite a few will vote for him.

I'm voting for him and I am proud of it. Every good democracy in the world has someone like Farage and UKIP pushing the boundaries and saying things people don't want to hear and are too scared to say themselves. I don't want them in power but I want them to have enough of a base in Westminster as possible so i'll more than likely vote for them next year too.

Farage is a great speaker and uncovering some of the bureaucracy and madness that goes on in Brussels. During the BBC Wales radio debate between all the parties the other day the Tory, Plaid and Labour MEPs couldn't answer the question "What do you do?". Which really says it all.

Its easy to get rid of Farage and UKIP once and for all and thats give the people a vote on Europe. Simple really

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

You think it's racist for someone to say what we are all thinking? YOU are the real bigot.

It's funny you probably live in some middle class utopia where the little independent shop is bustling and the village green is full of kids. A place where everyone is white British/Welsh, you lot would have a fit if half of your area was swamped with immigrants like our city has been. City Road is like f*cking Baghdad nowadays.

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

You think it's racist for someone to say what we are all thinking? YOU are the real bigot.

It's funny you probably live in some middle class utopia where the little independent shop is bustling and the village green is full of kids. A place where everyone is white British/Welsh, you lot would have fit if half of your area was swamped with immigrants like our city has been. City Road is like f*cking Baghdad nowadays.

You've made loads of wrong assumptions there...

The majority of shops in that area are also run by immigrants who benefit our economy. Potentially more than you.

I am not anti immigration I am anti mass immigration and we reached tipping point moons ago. Among other despicable acts the labour party is guilty of they are most guilty of the mass uncontrolled immigration we saw during the early 00s, far exceeding what was good for our economy.

My local newsagent is run by a Pakistani man that works hard however unlike some of the ignorant scumbags in the area he has adapted to our way of life, speaks our language and doesn't subject his wife and children to covering themselves up. He is a member of my community and benefits the area. Sadly a lot of new comers don't.

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

Anyone who reads the New Statesman was deffo not in block A thats for sure!!! More likely on Queen Street pitching up your table trying to flog the Morning Star on a Saturday afternoon than being in Block A at Ninian Park FFS!!!

I am not anti immigration I am anti mass immigration and we reached tipping point moons ago. Among other despicable acts the labour party is guilty of they are most guilty of the mass uncontrolled immigration we saw during the early 00s, far exceeding what was good for our economy.

My local newsagent is run by a Pakistani man that works hard however unlike some of the ignorant scumbags in the area he has adapted to our way of life, speaks our language and doesn't subject his wife and children to covering themselves up. He is a member of my community and benefits the area. Sadly a lot of new comers don't.

Immigrants put 38% more money into the economy than they take.

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

Anyone who reads the New Statesman was deffo not in block A thats for sure!!! More likely on Queen Street pitching up your table trying to flog the Morning Star on a Saturday afternoon than being in Block A at Ninian Park FFS!!!

I don't read it. I did a google search "Nigel farage interview" and that was one of the top websites. You know more about it than me...

I am not anti immigration I am anti mass immigration and we reached tipping point moons ago. Among other despicable acts the labour party is guilty of they are most guilty of the mass uncontrolled immigration we saw during the early 00s, far exceeding what was good for our economy.

My local newsagent is run by a Pakistani man that works hard however unlike some of the ignorant scumbags in the area he has adapted to our way of life, speaks our language and doesn't subject his wife and children to covering themselves up. He is a member of my community and benefits the area. Sadly a lot of new comers don't.

Immigrants put 38% more money into the economy than they take.

How much do non immigrants put in then?

Hit me with figures all you like way too many people have been let in leaving vast swathes of our cities looking like Lahore. It's not racist to say enough is enough.

I am not anti immigration I am anti mass immigration and we reached tipping point moons ago. Among other despicable acts the labour party is guilty of they are most guilty of the mass uncontrolled immigration we saw during the early 00s, far exceeding what was good for our economy.

My local newsagent is run by a Pakistani man that works hard however unlike some of the ignorant scumbags in the area he has adapted to our way of life, speaks our language and doesn't subject his wife and children to covering themselves up. He is a member of my community and benefits the area. Sadly a lot of new comers don't.

Immigrants put 38% more money into the economy than they take.

How much do non immigrants put in then?

Hit me with figures all you like way too many people have been let in leaving vast swathes of our cities looking like Lahore. It's not racist to say enough is enough.

Why does it bother you whether someone is British or not? Because they're different to you? Does that make you feel threatened?

I couldn't tell you how much non immigrants put in.

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

Anyone who reads the New Statesman was deffo not in block A thats for sure!!! More likely on Queen Street pitching up your table trying to flog the Morning Star on a Saturday afternoon than being in Block A at Ninian Park FFS!!!

I don't read it. I did a google search "Nigel farage interview" and that was one of the top websites. You know more about it than me...

so you believe every viewpoint youread and hear..? Jesus you are a propaganda lemming FFS!!!

what about the immigrant crime figures then..? http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/378232 ... ers-rising

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

Anyone who reads the New Statesman was deffo not in block A thats for sure!!! More likely on Queen Street pitching up your table trying to flog the Morning Star on a Saturday afternoon than being in Block A at Ninian Park FFS!!!

I don't read it. I did a google search "Nigel farage interview" and that was one of the top websites. You know more about it than me...

so you believe every viewpoint youread and hear..? Jesus you are a propaganda lemming FFS!!!

What are you talking about ? Click on the link and watch the interview. It's not propaganda it's farage being interviewed.

If you come here to work hard, respect our values and culture, learn our language and don't break the laws of the land then you are a true Welshman in my eyes, wherever you are born. We are an island nation, we do not have infinite resources. We have a huge population to land mass compared to other Western countries. We have large amount of our Youth unemployed yet we pile more people in? Where is the sense in that one or our youngsters not good enough for you?

Take your first words and "Not get into a debate" because you will look silly.

what about the immigrant crime figures then..? http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/378232 ... ers-rising

That is only Romanians. The amount of Romanians and Bulgarians in Britain has reduced since the borders opened for them.

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

Anyone who reads the New Statesman was deffo not in block A thats for sure!!! More likely on Queen Street pitching up your table trying to flog the Morning Star on a Saturday afternoon than being in Block A at Ninian Park FFS!!!

I don't read it. I did a google search "Nigel farage interview" and that was one of the top websites. You know more about it than me...

so you believe every viewpoint youread and hear..? Jesus you are a propaganda lemming FFS!!!

What are you talking about ? Click on the link and watch the interview. It's not propaganda it's farage being interviewed.

Yes but its clearly a left learning report. Do you travel on the trains where he is talking about then..? I do very often and I fully understand the point his making. If people want to intrograte then its not much of an ask to learn the language is it..? There are hundreds of immigrants in Cardiff who cannot speak a word of English and believe me I know because the jobcentre try and palm them off to me each and everyday!!

what about the immigrant crime figures then..? http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/378232 ... ers-rising

That is only Romanians. The amount of Romanians and Bulgarians in Britain has reduced since the borders opened for them.

You do realise that they were letting in shed loads of Romanians and Bulgarians before the restrictions were lifted so that on the day they were it didn't look like so many were coming in. Not one application was turned down last year.

The amount of Bulgarians and Romanians in work is up 29% on this time last year.

what about the immigrant crime figures then..? http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/378232 ... ers-rising

That is only Romanians. The amount of Romanians and Bulgarians in Britain has reduced since the borders opened for them.

You dont know that!!! There are no figures to confirm that because they don't know how many are here in the first place!!!

If you come here to work hard, respect our values and culture, learn our language and don't break the laws of the land then you are a true Welshman in my eyes, wherever you are born. We are an island nation, we do not have infinite resources. We have a huge population to land mass compared to other Western countries. We have large amount of our Youth unemployed yet we pile more people in? Where is the sense in that one or our youngsters not good enough for you?

Take your first words and "Not get into a debate" because you will look silly.

I agree with what you say here - but the answer isn't UKIP. They're a bunch of racist, xenophobic and homophobes. Something does need to be done to stop people coming here and abusing the benefit system. People who come here and break laws should be sent back to where they are from. Maybe something similar to Australia but not so strict. There are huge benefits to that come with immigrants. UKIP want to make tax cuts for the rich, increase working house, reduce minimum wage and increase tax for the lowest paid.

Have you seen the political parties in Europe that they affiliate themselves with? Ones whom support the likes of Breivik.

what about the immigrant crime figures then..? http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/378232 ... ers-rising

That is only Romanians. The amount of Romanians and Bulgarians in Britain has reduced since the borders opened for them.

You dont know that!!! There are no figures to confirm that because they don't know how many are here in the first place!!!

Do you remember the last labour govt. from time to time used to "lose" data on immigrants? I honestly believe they lost the data on purpose because the figures were so damning.

Not forgetting the time Charles Clarke freed over a thousand immigrants from jail and didn't consider deporting one of them despite most of them being in for violent crimes and a few were in for crimes against children.

what about the immigrant crime figures then..? http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/378232 ... ers-rising

That is only Romanians. The amount of Romanians and Bulgarians in Britain has reduced since the borders opened for them.

You dont know that!!! There are no figures to confirm that because they don't know how many are here in the first place!!!

Figures released last week.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... r-controls

If you say something about the article being in the guardian, you will find a similar article from the right wing daily mail too.

If you come here to work hard, respect our values and culture, learn our language and don't break the laws of the land then you are a true Welshman in my eyes, wherever you are born. We are an island nation, we do not have infinite resources. We have a huge population to land mass compared to other Western countries. We have large amount of our Youth unemployed yet we pile more people in? Where is the sense in that one or our youngsters not good enough for you?

Take your first words and "Not get into a debate" because you will look silly.

I agree with what you say here - but the answer isn't UKIP. They're a bunch of racist, xenophobic and homophobes. Something does need to be done to stop people coming here and abusing the benefit system. People who come here and break laws should be sent back to where they are from. Maybe something similar to Australia but not so strict. There are huge benefits to that come with immigrants. UKIP want to make tax cuts for the rich, increase working house, reduce minimum wage and increase tax for the lowest paid.

Have you seen the political parties in Europe that they affiliate themselves with? Ones whom support the likes of Breivik.

Where to begin.

Show me one racist, Xenophobic or homophobic policy they have? You are basing that on the words of a few nutcases which believe it or not can be found in every party despite what the media choose to tell you. As for UKIPs other policies, do you honestly think they are going to be in a position of power one day to implement their other policies? If you want to exit Europe then UKIP are absolutely the answer despite what you think of Farage and his party.

As for the parties they "affiliate" themselves with be careful what you read. The EU is broken up into blocks and as Eurosceptics they are in that block although it's not called that. The other parties also share blocks with undesireable people and organisations too. Affiliate is not the word you are looking for. It is basically like saying because we share a country with Mark Bridger we are "affiliated" with him.

what about the immigrant crime figures then..? http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/378232 ... ers-rising

That is only Romanians. The amount of Romanians and Bulgarians in Britain has reduced since the borders opened for them.

You dont know that!!! There are no figures to confirm that because they don't know how many are here in the first place!!!

Do you remember the last labour govt. from time to time used to "lose" data on immigrants? I honestly believe they lost the data on purpose because the figures were so damning.

Not forgetting the time Charles Clarke freed over a thousand immigrants from jail and didn't consider deporting one of them despite most of them being in for violent crimes and a few were in for crimes against children.

Labour Government advisor 'Andrew Neather' admitted that it was a plan to social engineer the country for their own benefits!!! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... viser.html

Yep, from 1997-2010 this country went from being one of the richest and best ran countries in the world to hell hole. I will be genuinely distraught if Labour win the next election. Blair and new Labour have a lot to apologise for. I cannot believe people still see Thatcher as the enemy after his mob.

what about the immigrant crime figures then..? http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/378232 ... ers-rising

That is only Romanians. The amount of Romanians and Bulgarians in Britain has reduced since the borders opened for them.

You dont know that!!! There are no figures to confirm that because they don't know how many are here in the first place!!!

Figures released last week.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014 ... r-controls

If you say something about the article being in the guardian, you will find a similar article from the right wing daily mail too.

Those figures are flawed and has been found out to be because its comparing only the workforce and not the whole families which come with the workforce

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

How?

Everything he said is backed up statistically. Just look at the police records. If a Romanian moves in next to you there is a higher probability that the person next to you is a criminal than say if a German person moved next door to you. That's not to say they are but neither did he say that they would be. He said he'd be concerned. The statistics prove that. Nowhere did Farage say abuse them on the basis of this. Being concerned is not racist.

1. Romania is economically worse off than Germany
2. The standard of living is much lower
3. In a lot of cases, its these poor people who come here looking for work due to lack of opportunities at home - what happens when they realise there is mass unemployment here?

http://www.met.police.uk/foi/pdfs/discl ... 000160.pdf

How is being concerned racist when its backed up by statistical evidence?

Nowhere did he say 'assume all Romanians are criminals' but 'that he would be concerned'. Now im not an expert in the English language but even to me there is an obvious difference in both those statements. Anyone who fails to see the key difference in those statements really should go back and do KS3 English.