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Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 10:39 am

For Liverpool according to twitter. Don't think we'd miss him too much next season.
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Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 10:41 am

He's not going anywhere all paper talk

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 10:48 am

Won't miss him, cala and Turner will do the job and Connelly is a great championship centre back

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 10:57 am

The sooner the better.

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 11:22 am

I want him to go as long as we can get £8m+ for him. OGS can reinvest that money and Turner, Cala, Hudson will be more than enough for the championship. The best thing about him as his goal threat on set pieces. Defending wise he was just as bad as everyone else.

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 11:32 am

Was down pier 64 last night

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 11:34 am

Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 11:42 am

waddle wrote:Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon


Agree in part.

He wasn't experienced enough to be our captain, we really needed a leader out there and didn't have one. A kid as captain and a bloke who can hardly speak English as our midfield general.

However it doesn't appear we paid over the odds as most reports have him as being sold for more than we paid for him, so the price was right.

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 11:59 am

Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon


Agree in part.

He wasn't experienced enough to be our captain, we really needed a leader out there and didn't have one. A kid as captain and a bloke who can hardly speak English as our midfield general.

However it doesn't appear we paid over the odds as most reports have him as being sold for more than we paid for him, so the price was right.

Sorry just checked I thought you payed 11 million for him but it was 8 so I stand corrected , but like you said there's no way a newly promoted club should be looking to a 21yr old to be their captain and defensive leader

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 12:16 pm

waddle wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon


Agree in part.

He wasn't experienced enough to be our captain, we really needed a leader out there and didn't have one. A kid as captain and a bloke who can hardly speak English as our midfield general.

However it doesn't appear we paid over the odds as most reports have him as being sold for more than we paid for him, so the price was right.

Sorry just checked I thought you payed 11 million for him but it was 8 so I stand corrected , but like you said there's no way a newly promoted club should be looking to a 21yr old to be their captain and defensive leader


:thumbup:

Yeah.

Although HE would have been a good signing IF we had bought better elsewhere - perhaps not bought Medel, but got 2 decent central midfielders - one of whom needed to be a leader and captain -say for £5m and the other a bit cheaper, but able to fit and cover (Ledley comes to mind), we wouldn't have been relying on the likes of Kim and Cowie then who weren't up to it. Used the rest to buy a decent full-back, where we've struggled all season.

Then there's the £6-£8m spent on Cornelius - if this had been used for at least 1 decent striker we would have stayed up easily with the other above.

Ah, the benfit of hindsight. Mind you, thanks to your crystal ball and romany origins you were telling us all this 9 months ago. :lol:

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 12:49 pm

waddle wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon


Agree in part.

He wasn't experienced enough to be our captain, we really needed a leader out there and didn't have one. A kid as captain and a bloke who can hardly speak English as our midfield general.

However it doesn't appear we paid over the odds as most reports have him as being sold for more than we paid for him, so the price was right.

Sorry just checked I thought you payed 11 million for him but it was 8 so I stand corrected , but like you said there's no way a newly promoted club should be looking to a 21yr old to be their captain and defensive leader

Mate you got a lot of details wrong. He is not 21, he will be 23 this year. Old enough to expect more for that prize.

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 12:54 pm

LonCar wrote:
waddle wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon


Agree in part.

He wasn't experienced enough to be our captain, we really needed a leader out there and didn't have one. A kid as captain and a bloke who can hardly speak English as our midfield general.

However it doesn't appear we paid over the odds as most reports have him as being sold for more than we paid for him, so the price was right.

Sorry just checked I thought you payed 11 million for him but it was 8 so I stand corrected , but like you said there's no way a newly promoted club should be looking to a 21yr old to be their captain and defensive leader

Mate you got a lot of details wrong. He is not 21, he will be 23 this year. Old enough to expect more for that prize.


He's 23 in December, he was 21 when he signed.

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 12:57 pm

Aramore wrote:
LonCar wrote:
waddle wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon


Agree in part.

He wasn't experienced enough to be our captain, we really needed a leader out there and didn't have one. A kid as captain and a bloke who can hardly speak English as our midfield general.

However it doesn't appear we paid over the odds as most reports have him as being sold for more than we paid for him, so the price was right.

Sorry just checked I thought you payed 11 million for him but it was 8 so I stand corrected , but like you said there's no way a newly promoted club should be looking to a 21yr old to be their captain and defensive leader

Mate you got a lot of details wrong. He is not 21, he will be 23 this year. Old enough to expect more for that prize.


He's 23 in December, he was 21 when he signed.

John terry and Steven Gerrad were leaders at that age IMO that's a natural quality in some players. For how he is being touted he has been a disappointment. Also think he is slow and looks clumsy on the ball at times. His positional play isn't great either led to several goals. Like Blakey said he is a good athlete but has a lot to learn defensively.

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 1:50 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon


Agree in part.

He wasn't experienced enough to be our captain, we really needed a leader out there and didn't have one. A kid as captain and a bloke who can hardly speak English as our midfield general.

However it doesn't appear we paid over the odds as most reports have him as being sold for more than we paid for him, so the price was right.

Sorry just checked I thought you payed 11 million for him but it was 8 so I stand corrected , but like you said there's no way a newly promoted club should be looking to a 21yr old to be their captain and defensive leader


:thumbup:

Yeah.

Although HE would have been a good signing IF we had bought better elsewhere - perhaps not bought Medel, but got 2 decent central midfielders - one of whom needed to be a leader and captain -say for £5m and the other a bit cheaper, but able to fit and cover (Ledley comes to mind), we wouldn't have been relying on the likes of Kim and Cowie then who weren't up to it. Used the rest to buy a decent full-back, where we've struggled all season.

Then there's the £6-£8m spent on Cornelius - if this had been used for at least 1 decent striker we would have stayed up easily with the other above.

Ah, the benfit of hindsight. Mind you, thanks to your crystal ball and romany origins you were telling us all this 9 months ago. :lol:

It was more hope than prediction but unfortunately you as fans have been let down massively in so many ways by your players , managers and hierarchy

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 1:52 pm

LonCar wrote:
waddle wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon


Agree in part.

He wasn't experienced enough to be our captain, we really needed a leader out there and didn't have one. A kid as captain and a bloke who can hardly speak English as our midfield general.

However it doesn't appear we paid over the odds as most reports have him as being sold for more than we paid for him, so the price was right.

Sorry just checked I thought you payed 11 million for him but it was 8 so I stand corrected , but like you said there's no way a newly promoted club should be looking to a 21yr old to be their captain and defensive leader

Mate you got a lot of details wrong. He is not 21, he will be 23 this year. Old enough to expect more for that prize.

Not the sharpest tool in the box are you :lol:

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 1:57 pm

LonCar wrote:
Aramore wrote:
LonCar wrote:
waddle wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon


Agree in part.

He wasn't experienced enough to be our captain, we really needed a leader out there and didn't have one. A kid as captain and a bloke who can hardly speak English as our midfield general.

However it doesn't appear we paid over the odds as most reports have him as being sold for more than we paid for him, so the price was right.

Sorry just checked I thought you payed 11 million for him but it was 8 so I stand corrected , but like you said there's no way a newly promoted club should be looking to a 21yr old to be their captain and defensive leader

Mate you got a lot of details wrong. He is not 21, he will be 23 this year. Old enough to expect more for that prize.


He's 23 in December, he was 21 when he signed.

John terry and Steven Gerrad were leaders at that age IMO that's a natural quality in some players. For how he is being touted he has been a disappointment. Also think he is slow and looks clumsy on the ball at times. His positional play isn't great either led to several goals. Like Blakey said he is a good athlete but has a lot to learn defensively.

Look at your final statement again , so you now agree with what i said do you, confused or what ! :lol:

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 3:53 pm

waddle wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon


Agree in part.

He wasn't experienced enough to be our captain, we really needed a leader out there and didn't have one. A kid as captain and a bloke who can hardly speak English as our midfield general.

However it doesn't appear we paid over the odds as most reports have him as being sold for more than we paid for him, so the price was right.

Sorry just checked I thought you payed 11 million for him but it was 8 so I stand corrected , but like you said there's no way a newly promoted club should be looking to a 21yr old to be their captain and defensive leader


:thumbup:

Yeah.

Although HE would have been a good signing IF we had bought better elsewhere - perhaps not bought Medel, but got 2 decent central midfielders - one of whom needed to be a leader and captain -say for £5m and the other a bit cheaper, but able to fit and cover (Ledley comes to mind), we wouldn't have been relying on the likes of Kim and Cowie then who weren't up to it. Used the rest to buy a decent full-back, where we've struggled all season.

Then there's the £6-£8m spent on Cornelius - if this had been used for at least 1 decent striker we would have stayed up easily with the other above.

Ah, the benfit of hindsight. Mind you, thanks to your crystal ball and romany origins you were telling us all this 9 months ago. :lol:

It was more hope than prediction but unfortunately you as fans have been let down massively in so many ways by your players , managers and hierarchy


Yeah and strangely looking back I'm relaxed about it now and just want to rebuild (on and off the pitch) and start again next year.

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 4:38 pm

waddle wrote:
LonCar wrote:
Aramore wrote:
LonCar wrote:
waddle wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon


Agree in part.

He wasn't experienced enough to be our captain, we really needed a leader out there and didn't have one. A kid as captain and a bloke who can hardly speak English as our midfield general.

However it doesn't appear we paid over the odds as most reports have him as being sold for more than we paid for him, so the price was right.

Sorry just checked I thought you payed 11 million for him but it was 8 so I stand corrected , but like you said there's no way a newly promoted club should be looking to a 21yr old to be their captain and defensive leader

Mate you got a lot of details wrong. He is not 21, he will be 23 this year. Old enough to expect more for that prize.


He's 23 in December, he was 21 when he signed.

John terry and Steven Gerrad were leaders at that age IMO that's a natural quality in some players. For how he is being touted he has been a disappointment. Also think he is slow and looks clumsy on the ball at times. His positional play isn't great either led to several goals. Like Blakey said he is a good athlete but has a lot to learn defensively.

Look at your final statement again , so you now agree with what i said do you, confused or what ! :lol:
I think you could do with looking at your own posts again too. :idea:
It was claimed Chaulker is an inexperienced "kid" that had too much pressure on him, that we shouldn't expect all that much from him.
On the contrary Chaulker is not an inexperienced player, he is an england international, he has played for 3 different PL clubs and has raked up about 80 PL appearances. Perhaps you don't know the club too well but in terms of the PL he is actually by far one of our most experienced players, so perhaps thats why people expected more from him?
Its my personal opinion that Caulker is a decent player, strong, good in the air, a good target man for set pieces but personally not sure how far he will progress as he lacks pace and isn't great on the ball ( things that aren't easily improved at his age), my guess is he will prove to be an unspectacular but solid enough player.
As for his price, Southampton payed less for Lovren, a far more skilful CB at roughly round about the same age. Which gives credence to the notion that English players are overprized. So in short, i would say you are more than welcome to have him back. If you buy him back for 10 mill then thats good business for us! :thumbup:

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 5:18 pm

LonCar wrote:
waddle wrote:
LonCar wrote:
Aramore wrote:
LonCar wrote:
waddle wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
waddle wrote:Bad management in my opinion you bought a 21yr old to be your defensive leader and also payed over the odds for him so he had that weighing him down as well , caulker wads a very good defender for us snd for spurs but played off the experience of his fellow CB
At 21 he has maybe 4yrs before he reaches his peak , you lot expected too much too soon


Agree in part.

He wasn't experienced enough to be our captain, we really needed a leader out there and didn't have one. A kid as captain and a bloke who can hardly speak English as our midfield general.

However it doesn't appear we paid over the odds as most reports have him as being sold for more than we paid for him, so the price was right.

Sorry just checked I thought you payed 11 million for him but it was 8 so I stand corrected , but like you said there's no way a newly promoted club should be looking to a 21yr old to be their captain and defensive leader

Mate you got a lot of details wrong. He is not 21, he will be 23 this year. Old enough to expect more for that prize.


He's 23 in December, he was 21 when he signed.

John terry and Steven Gerrad were leaders at that age IMO that's a natural quality in some players. For how he is being touted he has been a disappointment. Also think he is slow and looks clumsy on the ball at times. His positional play isn't great either led to several goals. Like Blakey said he is a good athlete but has a lot to learn defensively.

Look at your final statement again , so you now agree with what i said do you, confused or what ! :lol:
I think you could do with looking at your own posts again too. :idea:
It was claimed Chaulker is an inexperienced "kid" that had too much pressure on him, that we shouldn't expect all that much from him.
On the contrary Chaulker is not an inexperienced player, he is an england international, he has played for 3 different PL clubs and has raked up about 80 PL appearances. Perhaps you don't know the club too well but in terms of the PL he is actually by far one of our most experienced players, so perhaps thats why people expected more from him?
Its my personal opinion that Caulker is a decent player, strong, good in the air, a good target man for set pieces but personally not sure how far he will progress as he lacks pace and isn't great on the ball ( things that aren't easily improved at his age), my guess is he will prove to be an unspectacular but solid enough player.
As for his price, Southampton payed less for Lovren, a far more skilful CB at roughly round about the same age. Which gives credence to the notion that English players are overprized. So in short, i would say you are more than welcome to have him back. If you buy him back for 10 mill then thats good business for us! :thumbup:

An inexperienced kid !? I said at 21 he was too young to have the captaincy and defensive leader role given to him which is correct ! I also said it was bad management to put that on his shoulders which was correct , also the fact he's played 80 prem league games and is one of your most experienced players shows how totally incompetent you were in the transfer market and if people expected more from him after being surrounded by sub standard players at 21 yrs old. That says more about them than him :thumbup:

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 5:22 pm

Also he was tidy on the ball for us but maybe having more confidence in the players around you makes you more confident on the ball , watch him flourish when he joins s better team

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 5:42 pm

waddle wrote:Also he was tidy on the ball for us but maybe having more confidence in the players around you makes you more confident on the ball , watch him flourish when he joins s better team

There are players in our team that are good on the ball despite being surrounded by players that lack the ability, Chaulker is just not one of them. He just doesn't have that quality to his game. Like i said decent CB but nothing special.
But good luck to him, happy to see him go if we can get back the money and then some. Go for it :thumbup:

Re: Caulker close to signing...

Sat May 10, 2014 5:51 pm

LonCar wrote:
waddle wrote:Also he was tidy on the ball for us but maybe having more confidence in the players around you makes you more confident on the ball , watch him flourish when he joins s better team

There are players in our team that are good on the ball despite being surrounded by players that lack the ability, Chaulker is just not one of them. He just doesn't have that quality to his game. Like i said decent CB but nothing special.
But good luck to him, happy to see him go if we can get back the money and then some. Go for it :thumbup:

But those players didn't have the added responsibility of the captaincy and organising the defence at the age of 21 with 40 premier games under their belt !!!!
you seem to forget I have also watched caulker play and he is and will be a very good defender ,like I say watch when he goes back to playing for a tidy team