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' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 8:08 am

That MM had to pay his own Legal expenses after dropping his claims against Cardiff City Football Club having reached a "Settlement Agreement" with the club.

The statement issued by MM yesterday was issued by his Lawyers - Slater & Gordon, so who are they? If you look on the website of the League Managers Association you will find this Company listed as the "Legal Partners" of the LMA. Like any other Trade Association or Trade Union the LMA offer members Legal services covering any number of issues when required and at no cost to the member.

http://www.leaguemanagers.com/members/services-94.html


So MM never had to pay a penny to the Legal Team representing him and I have no doubt that the club has made a contribution to the costs of drawing up the settlement agreement with MM Legal representatives i.e. Slater & Gorden.

The Mail also reported that as part of the settlement agreement that MM received no compensation Hmmm. Well Slater & Gorden describe "Settlement Agreements" as;

The basis of a Settlement Agreement is that the employer offers you further financial compensation or another incentive, usually beyond your contractual entitlement, to enter into the settlement agreement. In turn, by signing the agreement you give up your right to bring an employment-related claim against your employer.

If negotiated properly, a compromise agreement can be a very effective way to ensure that you are adequately compensated for the termination of your employment without the need to bring a formal claim against your employer, which can be expensive and time-consuming.


At no stage has the club denied that a Settlement Agreement has been reached so how the Daily Mail can report that NO COMPENSATION was received by MM, in my opinion, beggars belief.

As regards any apology what exactly did MM apologise for, nothing in my opinion, he just made a broad brush stroke statement full of if's, but's and maybe. We all know VT is big on apologies as didn't he say in an interview a while back that fans should apologise to him.

Anyone still believe what the Daily Mail said yesterday.


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Re: So The Daily Mail Reported

Sat May 10, 2014 8:16 am

castleblue wrote:That MM had to pay his own Legal expenses after dropping his claims against Cardiff City Football Club having reached a "Settlement Agreement" with the club.

The statement issued by MM yesterday was issued by his Lawyers - Slater & Gordon, so who are they? If you look on the website of the League Managers Association you will find this Company listed as the "Legal Partners" of the LMA. Like any other Trade Association or Trade Union the LMA offer members Legal services covering any number of issues when required and at no cost to the member.

http://www.leaguemanagers.com/members/services-94.html


So MM never had to pay a penny to the Legal Team representing him and I have no doubt that the club has made a contribution to the costs of drawing up the settlement agreement with MM Legal representatives i.e. Slater & Gorden.

The Mail also reported that as part of the settlement agreement that MM received no compensation Hmmm. Well Slater & Gorden describe "Settlement Agreements" as;

The basis of a Settlement Agreement is that the employer offers you further financial compensation or another incentive, usually beyond your contractual entitlement, to enter into the settlement agreement. In turn, by signing the agreement you give up your right to bring an employment-related claim against your employer.

If negotiated properly, a compromise agreement can be a very effective way to ensure that you are adequately compensated for the termination of your employment without the need to bring a formal claim against your employer, which can be expensive and time-consuming.


At no stage has the club denied that a Settlement Agreement has been reached so how the Daily Mail can report that NO COMPENSATION was received by MM, in my opinion, beggars belief.

As regards any apology what exactly did MM apologise for, nothing in my opinion, he just made a broad brush stroke statement full of if's, but's and maybe. We all know VT is big on apologies as didn't he say in an interview a while back that fans should apologise to him.

Anyone still believe what the Daily Mail said yesterday.


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I have you CB...I was saving this.

Re: So The Daily Mail Reported

Sat May 10, 2014 8:18 am

Finally someone with a bit of common sense who hasnt jumped to conclusions... No one will ever know what the terms of the agreement were.. But you can be sure Malky and Moody were paid off to drop the case. If Tan had anything against them that could detrimental to either of their future careers surely he would of brought this up at the beginning of the case and not let this drag on as it has... Or sacked Malky on the spot and not waited so long.

Thankfully this is all done with now, we can move on and forget this disatrous season.

Re: So The Daily Mail Reported

Sat May 10, 2014 8:26 am

I think its fair to say there was wrong on both sides. Its just the refusal by some to think Malky may not have been whiter than white that is so ridiculous.

Re: So The Daily Mail Reported

Sat May 10, 2014 8:29 am

CraigCCFC wrote:I think its fair to say there was wrong on both sides. Its just the refusal by some to think Malky may not have been whiter than white that is so ridiculous.


So tell me Craig what has he seriously done wrong outside what he was employed to do?

Re: So The Daily Mail Reported

Sat May 10, 2014 8:32 am

CraigCCFC wrote:I think its fair to say there was wrong on both sides. Its just the refusal by some to think Malky may not have been whiter than white that is so ridiculous.


Craig I don't think MM was whiter than white and I believe that he should have gone a lot earlier than he eventually did but, having said that he should have gone for making a mess of the transfer spending and not any alledged back handers.

Look you are clearly no idiot so do you think MM ever faced a legal bill or were his Lawyers appointed by the LMA to act of behalf of MM ?


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Re: So The Daily Mail Reported

Sat May 10, 2014 8:43 am

castleblue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:I think its fair to say there was wrong on both sides. Its just the refusal by some to think Malky may not have been whiter than white that is so ridiculous.


Craig I don't think MM was whiter than white and I believe that he should have gone a lot earlier than he eventually did but, having said that he should have gone for making a mess of the transfer spending and not any alledged back handers.

Look you are clearly no idiot so do you think MM ever faced a legal bill or were his Lawyers appointed by the LMA to act of behalf of MM ?


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I know you dont believe Malky was whiter than white, that wasnt aimed toward you, it was a more general audience.

If a trade union appoints solicitors to act on behalf of a member then they believe they have a case and will charge the union the fees. IF during mediation evidence comes to light that the member has either lied, purposefully witheld important information then the union can refuse to pay and the member foots the bill.

In no way am I saying this is what happened regarding Malky, this is how union/solicitor relationships work.

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 8:49 am

castleblue wrote:That MM had to pay his own Legal expenses after dropping his claims against Cardiff City Football Club having reached a "Settlement Agreement" with the club.

The statement issued by MM yesterday was issued by his Lawyers - Slater & Gordon, so who are they? If you look on the website of the League Managers Association you will find this Company listed as the "Legal Partners" of the LMA. Like any other Trade Association or Trade Union the LMA offer members Legal services covering any number of issues when required and at no cost to the member.

http://www.leaguemanagers.com/members/services-94.html


So MM never had to pay a penny to the Legal Team representing him and I have no doubt that the club has made a contribution to the costs of drawing up the settlement agreement with MM Legal representatives i.e. Slater & Gorden.

The Mail also reported that as part of the settlement agreement that MM received no compensation Hmmm. Well Slater & Gorden describe "Settlement Agreements" as;

The basis of a Settlement Agreement is that the employer offers you further financial compensation or another incentive, usually beyond your contractual entitlement, to enter into the settlement agreement. In turn, by signing the agreement you give up your right to bring an employment-related claim against your employer.

If negotiated properly, a compromise agreement can be a very effective way to ensure that you are adequately compensated for the termination of your employment without the need to bring a formal claim against your employer, which can be expensive and time-consuming.


At no stage has the club denied that a Settlement Agreement has been reached so how the Daily Mail can report that NO COMPENSATION was received by MM, in my opinion, beggars belief.

As regards any apology what exactly did MM apologise for, nothing in my opinion, he just made a broad brush stroke statement full of if's, but's and maybe. We all know VT is big on apologies as didn't he say in an interview a while back that fans should apologise to him.

Anyone still believe what the Daily Mail said yesterday.


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so your saying a settlement agreement HAS to involve compensation.............

Re: So The Daily Mail Reported

Sat May 10, 2014 8:52 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
castleblue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:I think its fair to say there was wrong on both sides. Its just the refusal by some to think Malky may not have been whiter than white that is so ridiculous.


Craig I don't think MM was whiter than white and I believe that he should have gone a lot earlier than he eventually did but, having said that he should have gone for making a mess of the transfer spending and not any alledged back handers.

Look you are clearly no idiot so do you think MM ever faced a legal bill or were his Lawyers appointed by the LMA to act of behalf of MM ?


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I know you dont believe Malky was whiter than white, that wasnt aimed toward you, it was a more general audience.

If a trade union appoints solicitors to act on behalf of a member then they believe they have a case and will charge the union the fees. IF during mediation evidence comes to light that the member has either lied, purposefully witheld important information then the union can refuse to pay and the member foots the bill.

In no way am I saying this is what happened regarding Malky, this is how union/solicitor relationships work.



That all fair enough Craig and I agree that if something came to light during the mediation process then in this case, the LMA, may have withdrawn it's financial support. But did it do that ? Afterall the statement yesterday was issued by Slater & Gordon so the LMA Legal partners were involved through to the completion of the settlement agreement. In my opinion that's a clear indication that nothing came to light during the mediation process that could have affected the involement of the LMA Legal team.

On that basis it pours scorn on the Daily Mail claim that MM had to pay his own legal bills and that being the case what else did the Daily Mail get wrong ?


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Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 8:57 am

simon.wiesenthal wrote:
castleblue wrote:That MM had to pay his own Legal expenses after dropping his claims against Cardiff City Football Club having reached a "Settlement Agreement" with the club.

The statement issued by MM yesterday was issued by his Lawyers - Slater & Gordon, so who are they? If you look on the website of the League Managers Association you will find this Company listed as the "Legal Partners" of the LMA. Like any other Trade Association or Trade Union the LMA offer members Legal services covering any number of issues when required and at no cost to the member.

http://www.leaguemanagers.com/members/services-94.html


So MM never had to pay a penny to the Legal Team representing him and I have no doubt that the club has made a contribution to the costs of drawing up the settlement agreement with MM Legal representatives i.e. Slater & Gorden.

The Mail also reported that as part of the settlement agreement that MM received no compensation Hmmm. Well Slater & Gorden describe "Settlement Agreements" as;

The basis of a Settlement Agreement is that the employer offers you further financial compensation or another incentive, usually beyond your contractual entitlement, to enter into the settlement agreement. In turn, by signing the agreement you give up your right to bring an employment-related claim against your employer.

If negotiated properly, a compromise agreement can be a very effective way to ensure that you are adequately compensated for the termination of your employment without the need to bring a formal claim against your employer, which can be expensive and time-consuming.


At no stage has the club denied that a Settlement Agreement has been reached so how the Daily Mail can report that NO COMPENSATION was received by MM, in my opinion, beggars belief.

As regards any apology what exactly did MM apologise for, nothing in my opinion, he just made a broad brush stroke statement full of if's, but's and maybe. We all know VT is big on apologies as didn't he say in an interview a while back that fans should apologise to him.

Anyone still believe what the Daily Mail said yesterday.


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so your saying a settlement agreement HAS to involve compensation.............


In my experience this type of agreement is about financial matters although it can include other aspects. But first and foremost it's about money.

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Re: So The Daily Mail Reported

Sat May 10, 2014 9:06 am

castleblue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
castleblue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:I think its fair to say there was wrong on both sides. Its just the refusal by some to think Malky may not have been whiter than white that is so ridiculous.


Craig I don't think MM was whiter than white and I believe that he should have gone a lot earlier than he eventually did but, having said that he should have gone for making a mess of the transfer spending and not any alledged back handers.

Look you are clearly no idiot so do you think MM ever faced a legal bill or were his Lawyers appointed by the LMA to act of behalf of MM ?


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I know you dont believe Malky was whiter than white, that wasnt aimed toward you, it was a more general audience.

If a trade union appoints solicitors to act on behalf of a member then they believe they have a case and will charge the union the fees. IF during mediation evidence comes to light that the member has either lied, purposefully witheld important information then the union can refuse to pay and the member foots the bill.

In no way am I saying this is what happened regarding Malky, this is how union/solicitor relationships work.



That all fair enough Craig and I agree that if something came to light during the mediation process then in this case, the LMA, may have withdrawn it's financial support. But did it do that ? Afterall the statement yesterday was issued by Slater & Gordon so the LMA Legal partners were involved through to the completion of the settlement agreement. In my opinion that's a clear indication that nothing came to light during the mediation process that could have affected the involement of the LMA Legal team.

On that basis it pours scorn on the Daily Mail claim that MM had to pay his own legal bills and that being the case what else did the Daily Mail get wrong ?


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In my opinion a law firm representing a high profile union such as the LMA, with high profile members in the media spotlight would remain utterly professional under the public gaze until the end. Even if a case fell apart due to no fault of their own. Many law firms would like to partner with the LMA.

As a rule im sceptical of any newspapers but if everyone is claiming the mail has been 100% accurate on us this season, it seems only logical they are this time.

The biggest issue with all this is the apology from Malky and Moody (who has another job already) it wasnt a usual SA conclusion. I have never dealt with any mediation or litigation that has been ended in such a one sided and quite frankly, pathetic submission from one side. There was a reason it was so humble, even the most clouded mind must admit that.

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 9:16 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... t-Tan.html

"Mackay, 42, is expected to be targeted by Norwich after dropping his claim, having reached a financial settlement that is not believed to include any compensation."

If there is no compensation it does not mean he did not receive any money. How is this so? Some newspaper reports claimed Malky was making a 7m claim against the club. This would almost certainly be above what he was due in his contract. If the club had not honoured his notice period when they dismissed him then part of the reason for Malky to use would be to get this money paid to him. If VT agreed to pay him this amount then it would not count as compensation.

To reach an agreement Malky had to drop all claims against the club and agree not to make further claims I.e. Sue again. Therefore he has not "lost" as some would have you believe, that is just what happens when reach a settlement agreement.

As for his legal costs, even if he did pay for his LMA lawyers that would not be unusual. They did not go to court so he hadn't been awarded any costs by a judge meaning there was no legal obligation for the club to pay for his lawyers. In reaching these settlement agreements it is normal to pay your own fees. The risk you face when making these claims is that you don't recover enough financially, either through what you are due in your contract or with extra compensation, to have a net gain so to speak.

And why would Malky apologise? For one it was one of the weakest apologies you could get and only saying sorry if he caused offence to VT. There was no apology for any actual wrong doing. But the likely reason (to me) is Malky would want VT etc to stop criticising him in public. I imagine that a clause in the agreement is that VT and the club are no longer allowed to make criticisms of Malky in public, this could be regarding his managerial record at Cardiff, elsewhere or over the signings and "overspend". What would get tan to agree to that? A public apology that to some makes it look like tan was in the right and Malky in the wrong. That seems to have worked if you read what a lot of people are writing...

Re: So The Daily Mail Reported

Sat May 10, 2014 9:20 am

castleblue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:I think its fair to say there was wrong on both sides. Its just the refusal by some to think Malky may not have been whiter than white that is so ridiculous.


Craig I don't think MM was whiter than white and I believe that he should have gone a lot earlier than he eventually did but, having said that he should have gone for making a mess of the transfer spending and not any alledged back handers.

Look you are clearly no idiot so do you think MM ever faced a legal bill or were his Lawyers appointed by the LMA to act of behalf of MM ?


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Apart from some posters on here and other message boards who like to make out that they are ITK, when have the club ever said that Malky and Moody were alledgedly taking back handers?
I have always believed that Tan merely wanted rid of the pair of them, because they had ridden rough shod over the transfer budget and in his opinion spent it unwisely?
Malky, whether agreed upon or not was then sacked, unfortunately, it was drawn out, by him. Onto the legal action, it was Malky who brought the claim for full compensation of his contract for £7 million. Which ever way you choose to read it, the pair have appologised to Tan-publicly, they have accepted that their actions, both in their inability in controlling the budget and laterly refusing to accept any blaim and then lastly taking this issue down the legal route was wrong, hence the appology. Had this legal case continued, it would have damaged Malky far more than Tan, as there would be questions over his character until it was resolved, what club is going to employ a manager, who is currently taking his last employer to court? When it got to court, I have no doubt that Malky would not have proved anything apart from the fact that he had spent over budget and that Tan is a tough boss to work for-big deal :lol:

Over the question of Malky paying the legal bill, well if the LMA feel that this was a waste of time, they may have a policy in place that the claiment pay full legal costs? or more likely the Daily Mail are merely sensationalising the fact that the LMA have picked up the tab and as Malky is a member who pays into that union, he has indirectly paid the legal fees. In terms of compensation, I would say that both sides would have settled for a years salary which is completely normal and would have happened anyway, so again the Daily Mail have dressed it up as "No Compensation" when in fact what they are saying is, the compensation of £7 million will not be paid.

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 9:29 am

When entering an SA you cannot take further action regarding the matter. You are bound to that by law so there is no seperate agreement needed for that.

Having notice period paid is pretty standard when SA's are used. Its the fact Malky dropped his claims on unfair dismissal when it would have had no effect on future jobs. Even if he had a restrictive covenant in his contract it would be null and void if the employer breached the contract of employment, which is what Malky claimed by pursuing unfair dismissal.

The apology was very submissive, coupled with Moody's makes Malky look terrible. Why would you apologise if you have done nothing wrong? Why drop everything and lose a potential few million windfall. Remember, an ET or civil court is based on probability not certainty...........

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Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 9:30 am

A settlement doesn't have to mean money changing hands

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 9:34 am

Arrow wrote:A settlement doesn't have to mean money changing hands

It doesnt have to, 99% of the time it does involve money or some form of financial exchange

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 9:40 am

CraigCCFC wrote:When entering an SA you cannot take further action regarding the matter. You are bound to that by law so there is no seperate agreement needed for that.

Having notice period paid is pretty standard when SA's are used. Its the fact Malky dropped his claims on unfair dismissal when it would have had no effect on future jobs. Even if he had a restrictive covenant in his contract it would be null and void if the employer breached the contract of employment, which is what Malky claimed by pursuing unfair dismissal.

The apology was very submissive, coupled with Moody's makes Malky look terrible. Why would you apologise if you have done nothing wrong? Why drop everything and lose a potential few million windfall. Remember, an ET or civil court is based on probability not certainty...........

something doesnt sit right


Yes, your right Craig, why submit such a grovelling apology? if it was just a case of moving on with life, then the easy route would be to drop the legal action, accept the money he was owed on his contract and move onto his next managerial job. No need for an apology, unless of course, you are in the wrong and there is a good chance it will be made public?

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 9:53 am

The pathetic apology says it all for me. What kind of man with any self respect would take a previous employeer for unfair dismissal and them release a pathetic apology like that.
Wanting the Norwich job makes no difference. It puts malky a very bad light to the vast majority so anyone who thinks he did this of his own kind will is mad.

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 9:55 am

At no stage has the club denied that a Settlement Agreement has been reached so how the Daily Mail can report that NO COMPENSATION was received by MM, in my opinion, beggars belief.



Are you suggesting that the only way the Daily Mail could have any information on this settlement is from a Cardiff City FC press release? That's very naive.

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 10:00 am

2blue2handle wrote:The pathetic apology says it all for me. What kind of man with any self respect would take a previous employeer for unfair dismissal and them release a pathetic apology like that.
Wanting the Norwich job makes no difference. It puts malky a very bad light to the vast majority so anyone who thinks he did this of his own kind will is mad.


A lot of dirty washing has come out of this and its all been from the club.

Malky has apologised IF he has caused offence. The word IF being the operative here. Basically he is making it clear that was not his intention.

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 10:03 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:The pathetic apology says it all for me. What kind of man with any self respect would take a previous employeer for unfair dismissal and them release a pathetic apology like that.
Wanting the Norwich job makes no difference. It puts malky a very bad light to the vast majority so anyone who thinks he did this of his own kind will is mad.


A lot of dirty washing has come out of this and its all been from the club.

Malky has apologised IF he has caused offence. The word IF being the operative here. Basically he is making it clear that was not his intention.



Oh come on Ian, do you think he wanted to release that pathetic statement? And did so of his own accord just to be nice? :shock:

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 10:05 am

Whatever the rights and wrongs of this whole affair and, in my opinion, both parties i.e the club (VT) and MM have behaved badly throughout this.

I believe that the working relationship between VT and MM brokedown sometime over the summer and from that point onward it was always going to end in MM leaving the club. Throughout the September - December period VT and his cronies did everything they could to undermine MM, sacking IM and one leak after another. MM tried to ring this to a head in December by going public saying he was looking to sign 3 players in January when surely he knew that VT would not be giving him another penny. VT went off the scale with statement about not giving MM "A single Penny" and then someone leaked the resign or be sacked email.

The very fact that VT asked him to resign or be sacked, in my opinion, pours scorn on any claim that VT had positive proof of any finincial irregularities in the transfer dealings last summer. If there were any substance to these allegations it would amount to gross misconduct and, in my opinion, VT would have sacked MM there and then. He didn't and that speaks volumes about the substance of these allegations.

The reality was VT wanted MM out and MM would only go with as big a bag of money that he could carry. Following the announcement of the settlement agreement yesterday some common ground has been found and MM is walking away into the sunset with a bag of money. How much that is who knows, but I would guess somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract.

There is little we can be sure of but, in my opinion, MM was prepared to do anything from making public statements that would piss VT off to making insincere apologies just whatever it took to get the bag of money he was looking for. VT on the other hand would do anything including paying whatever it took to see MM up the road. The fact he got MM to issue some lame attempt at any apology must have given him a real hard on.

It's all about opinions guys and that'swhat makes for good debates.


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Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 10:07 am

Don't we say that the daily mail has been right all year about goings on at our club?

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 10:13 am

2blue2handle wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:The pathetic apology says it all for me. What kind of man with any self respect would take a previous employeer for unfair dismissal and them release a pathetic apology like that.
Wanting the Norwich job makes no difference. It puts malky a very bad light to the vast majority so anyone who thinks he did this of his own kind will is mad.


A lot of dirty washing has come out of this and its all been from the club.

Malky has apologised IF he has caused offence. The word IF being the operative here. Basically he is making it clear that was not his intention.



Oh come on Ian, do you think he wanted to release that pathetic statement? And did so of his own accord just to be nice? :shock:


Luke I've been in similar things like this before were one party has made a statement to basically put the ball in the other parties court. This does not surprise me that some on here can't see this but basically Malky is being very diplomatic here by offering an apology if he had offended. That is all it is. It is not an apology for any wrong.

Let me take you back to the Dave Jones saga when he while managing Sheff Wed claimed he had an issue with the club. Later the club sttled with him and Jones came out with the statement wishing the club well. Its all politics and nothing else.

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 10:14 am

hgb123 wrote:
At no stage has the club denied that a Settlement Agreement has been reached so how the Daily Mail can report that NO COMPENSATION was received by MM, in my opinion, beggars belief.



Are you suggesting that the only way the Daily Mail could have any information on this settlement is from a Cardiff City FC press release? That's very naive.


No I'm not saying that because there is no way I could say that. What I'm saying is that the club has said that it has reached a settlement agreement with MM and as 99% of matters covered in such agreements are financial it pours scorn on any claim that no monies have been paid by the club to MM.


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Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 10:18 am

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!! :laughing6:

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 10:20 am

BillyLiar wrote:If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!! :laughing6:


Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 10:22 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
BillyLiar wrote:If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!! :laughing6:


Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Why drop the case? and perhaps they settle for no money changing hands with an apology and a promise from Tan not to destroy Malkys career.

Re: ' So The Daily Mail Reported '

Sat May 10, 2014 10:33 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
BillyLiar wrote:If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!! :laughing6:


Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?


Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.


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Sat May 10, 2014 10:41 am

castleblue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
BillyLiar wrote:If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!! :laughing6:


Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?


Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.


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Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.