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Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 7:39 am

It seems people's hatred for Vincent Tan is once again clouding people's judgement with regard to Malky Malky.

Our fan base has become so entrenched in their views about Tan that it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion on here these days.

Despite yesterday's statements from both Malky and Moody still people are saying that it's cos he wants the Norwich job, Tan has gagged him etc!

You may be right but on the face of it, it looks extremely doubtful. Why can't people just judge each situation according to it's own merit.

Tan is a tw*t for changing the badge and colours and dividing our fanbase but Malky probably was up to no good.

One thing that does arouse my suspicion with regards to Malky is the difference in his activity in the transfer market in the summer and January of 2012/13 & the summer of 2014.
He signed players like Mutch, Kim, Campbell and Noone for less than 6 million combined last season whereas this year he signs KTC, Medel, Cornelius, Brayford, Odemwingie!

How does someone who is so frugal change to someone who is willing to throw cash at any old shit overnight?

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 7:42 am

thehumblegringo wrote:It seems people's hatred for Vincent Tan is once again clouding people's judgement with regard to Malky Malky.

Our fan base has become so entrenched in their views about Tan that it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion on here these days.

Despite yesterday's statements from both Malky and Moody still people are saying that it's cos he wants the Norwich job, Tan has gagged him etc!

You may be right but on the face of it, it looks extremely doubtful. Why can't people just judge each situation according to it's own merit.

Tan is a tw*t for changing the badge and colours and dividing our fanbase but Malky probably was up to no good.

One thing that does arouse my suspicion with regards to Malky is the difference in his activity in the transfer market in the summer and January of 2012/13 & the summer of 2014.
He signed players like Mutch, Kim, Campbell and Noone for less than 6 million combined last season whereas this year he signs KTC, Medel, Cornelius, Brayford, Odemwingie!

How does someone who is so frugal change to someone who is willing to throw cash at any old shit overnight?



frugal isnt the word i would use really.

Mutch (2m) Kim (2.5m) Noone (1.5)... all good signings, especially in the championship, but he paid a lot of money for them ( a lot in championship terms anyways)

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 7:43 am

Valid points gringo.
But not all of the fans have clouded vision.

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 7:44 am

I wish I could quote Bakedalaska's remark on Adam browns financial thread.......if ever there was clouded vision! Dam being out and on my phone

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 7:50 am

CraigCCFC wrote:I wish I could quote Bakedalaska's remark on Adam browns financial thread.......if ever there was clouded vision! Dam being out and on my phone


I could be right I could be wrong.

Your only saying things about me because I oppose your view. That statement yesterday leaves us all none the wiser, in fact creates more questions. However your reluctance to see the other side due to your ongoing and public opposition to Malky is what is called clouded vision.

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 7:53 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:I wish I could quote Bakedalaska's remark on Adam browns financial thread.......if ever there was clouded vision! Dam being out and on my phone


I could be right I could be wrong.

Your only saying things about me because I oppose your view. That statement yesterday leaves us all none the wiser, in fact creates more questions. However your reluctance to see the other side due to your ongoing and public opposition to Malky is what is called clouded vision.

Its the most insane thing ive heard regarding this situation. I havent even given my opinion on this matter as knowing what I know it wouldnt be right but to come out with what you did was just bonkers

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 7:53 am

Frugal? Nonsense.

Malky proved that if there is money there then he will spend it. He was highest spender in the Championship the year you went up and racked up 189% of income to wages.

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 8:05 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:I wish I could quote Bakedalaska's remark on Adam browns financial thread.......if ever there was clouded vision! Dam being out and on my phone


I could be right I could be wrong.

Your only saying things about me because I oppose your view. That statement yesterday leaves us all none the wiser, in fact creates more questions. However your reluctance to see the other side due to your ongoing and public opposition to Malky is what is called clouded vision.


Baked, he was banged to rights mate. I believe that by Annis' and Carl's reaction that they have been told the same too

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 8:05 am

his and Moodys statements yesterday were not bland...we thank everyone at the club for their support etc { normal court settlement spiel }.......it was flat out licking Tans arse, with an unreserved apology chucked in..
two men that probably detest Tan more than Annis does, grovelling.....

this was not spur of the moment remarks.......or ill advised { they had a legal team experienced in football }.
this was the best deal they were getting..
but Malky is far too important for some on here to consider any wrong doing....even if that wrong doing cost the club a place at the top table......Malky 1st...Cardiff somewhere down the pecking order......
its unreasonable to think these moony type Malky followers would change totally overnight.....but you would think they might at least consider wrong doing........nope.....flat out 100% denial

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 8:07 am

paulh_85 wrote:
thehumblegringo wrote:It seems people's hatred for Vincent Tan is once again clouding people's judgement with regard to Malky Malky.

Our fan base has become so entrenched in their views about Tan that it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion on here these days.

Despite yesterday's statements from both Malky and Moody still people are saying that it's cos he wants the Norwich job, Tan has gagged him etc!

You may be right but on the face of it, it looks extremely doubtful. Why can't people just judge each situation according to it's own merit.

Tan is a tw*t for changing the badge and colours and dividing our fanbase but Malky probably was up to no good.

One thing that does arouse my suspicion with regards to Malky is the difference in his activity in the transfer market in the summer and January of 2012/13 & the summer of 2014.
He signed players like Mutch, Kim, Campbell and Noone for less than 6 million combined last season whereas this year he signs KTC, Medel, Cornelius, Brayford, Odemwingie!

How does someone who is so frugal change to someone who is willing to throw cash at any old shit overnight?



frugal isnt the word i would use really.

Mutch (2m) Kim (2.5m) Noone (1.5)... all good signings, especially in the championship, but he paid a lot of money for them ( a lot in championship terms anyways)


I can see what you are saying but whether frugal is the right word or not, we would still make a profit on all those players and you can add Ben Turner and Gunner to that even though they haven't had very good seasons.

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 8:10 am

thehumblegringo wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:I wish I could quote Bakedalaska's remark on Adam browns financial thread.......if ever there was clouded vision! Dam being out and on my phone


I could be right I could be wrong.

Your only saying things about me because I oppose your view. That statement yesterday leaves us all none the wiser, in fact creates more questions. However your reluctance to see the other side due to your ongoing and public opposition to Malky is what is called clouded vision.


Baked, he was banged to rights mate. I believe that by Annis' and Carl's reaction that they have been told the same too


Who knows?

Usually when solicitors and litigation is involved we are all left guessing.

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 8:16 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
thehumblegringo wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:I wish I could quote Bakedalaska's remark on Adam browns financial thread.......if ever there was clouded vision! Dam being out and on my phone


I could be right I could be wrong.

Your only saying things about me because I oppose your view. That statement yesterday leaves us all none the wiser, in fact creates more questions. However your reluctance to see the other side due to your ongoing and public opposition to Malky is what is called clouded vision.


Baked, he was banged to rights mate. I believe that by Annis' and Carl's reaction that they have been told the same too


Who knows?

Usually when solicitors and litigation is involved we are all left guessing.

Does this change the vision of Vincen Tan in any way?

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 8:18 am

and there you have it.................the most important thing that happened this season for me was being relegated....our squad being nowhere near good enough.......400 polls later on who is to blame, it was tan this tan that ole this ole that,..tan interfered, was wrong over moody gate..was the cause of all that was wrong.........the evidence? well there was very little but blame they did.....
Malky..drops legal. action,grovels,makes an apology..and all those that jumped to defend him and blame tan.....
continue too.............clouded is not the word here Gringo.......its BRAINWASHED

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 8:36 am

simon.wiesenthal wrote:and there you have it.................the most important thing that happened this season for me was being relegated....our squad being nowhere near good enough.......400 polls later on who is to blame, it was tan this tan that ole this ole that,..tan interfered, was wrong over moody gate..was the cause of all that was wrong.........the evidence? well there was very little but blame they did.....
Malky..drops legal. action,grovels,makes an apology..and all those that jumped to defend him and blame tan.....
continue too.............clouded is not the word here Gringo.......its BRAINWASHED



I do find it bizarre to be honest mate.
Tan has changed the identity and by all means campaign to change us back but this vilifying of Tan at every opportunity and supporting anything but the club is absolutely ridiculous!

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 9:04 am

thehumblegringo wrote:
simon.wiesenthal wrote:and there you have it.................the most important thing that happened this season for me was being relegated....our squad being nowhere near good enough.......400 polls later on who is to blame, it was tan this tan that ole this ole that,..tan interfered, was wrong over moody gate..was the cause of all that was wrong.........the evidence? well there was very little but blame they did.....
Malky..drops legal. action,grovels,makes an apology..and all those that jumped to defend him and blame tan.....
continue too.............clouded is not the word here Gringo.......its BRAINWASHED



I do find it bizarre to be honest mate.
Tan has changed the identity and by all means campaign to change us back but this vilifying of Tan at every opportunity and supporting anything but the club is absolutely ridiculous!


glad its not just me.....

Re: Clouded vision!

Sat May 10, 2014 10:46 am

simon.wiesenthal wrote:and there you have it.................the most important thing that happened this season for me was being relegated....our squad being nowhere near good enough.......400 polls later on who is to blame, it was tan this tan that ole this ole that,..tan interfered, was wrong over moody gate..was the cause of all that was wrong.........the evidence? well there was very little but blame they did.....
Malky..drops legal. action,grovels,makes an apology..and all those that jumped to defend him and blame tan.....
continue too.............clouded is not the word here Gringo.......its BRAINWASHED


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