Yes or No

If VT promised to undo what he has done and convert the debt to equity.
Would you back him ?

If VT promised to undo what he has done and convert the debt to equity.
Would you back him ?

Everyone would I think

If VT promised to undo what he has done and convert the debt to equity.
Would you back him ?

Everyone would I think

Really?

Yes.

Without a doubt.

Yes

He's not a bad guy just a bit of a eccentric businessman who needs advice on how to run a football club .

He has done a hell of a lot of good for our club and the local area in his time here , problem is his other decisions tip the balance of the scales the wrong way

i think so.....

bookmark it. hell no!

If VT promised to undo what he has done and convert the debt to equity.
Would you back him ?

He won't do either Just watch as he sells all the players to recoup some of his money, pocket the parachute money and sell up

If Tan converted debt to equity but didn't change us back to blue, thoughts people

He would have delivered on all of his promises

If VT promised to undo what he has done and convert the debt to equity.
Would you back him ?

He won't do either Just watch as he sells all the players to recoup some of his money, pocket the parachute money and sell up

Was I right or was I right. Goodnight - that is all

Yes

If Tan converted debt to equity but didn't change us back to blue, thoughts people

He would have delivered on all of his promises

I didn't want it in the 1st place. I would still want our blue back as I have from the start

Yeah nah.

If VT promised to undo what he has done and convert the debt to equity.
Would you back him ?

Of course. But in reality he won't do either.

It's just a hypothetical question kids.

If VT promised to undo what he has done and convert the debt to equity.
Would you back him ?

He won't do either Just watch as he sells all the players to recoup some of his money, pocket the parachute money and sell up

Was I right or was I right. Goodnight - that is all

There his players he can do as he chooses.

"Was I right or was is right?"

Seeing as no players have been sold to date.
He has not yet sold the club.

I'm inclined to say no, you're not right at this moment in time.

Like fook would I

No! I will forever hate Tan for making me feel the way I do the past 2 seasons. We've had so many lows, but scarfgate will always be the most lowest and upset I will ever be supporting Cardiff City. Nothing will ever beat how distraught I felt that night. I felt like an away fan in my own stadium and felt I lost my club. Until that night, I was hopeful the fans would rally, thankfully we are now but a lot of irreparable damage has already been done. Cardiff City died for me that night, but now we have to try and bring our club back to life.

No! I will forever hate Tan for making me feel the way I do the past 2 seasons. We've had so many lows, but scarfgate will always be the most lowest and upset I will ever be supporting Cardiff City. Nothing will ever beat how distraught I felt that night. I felt like an away fan in my own stadium and felt I lost my club. Until that night, I was hopeful the fans would rally, thankfully we are now but a lot of irreparable damage has already been done. Cardiff City died for me that night, but now we have to try and bring our club back to life.

Do you still go?

No! I will forever hate Tan for making me feel the way I do the past 2 seasons. We've had so many lows, but scarfgate will always be the most lowest and upset I will ever be supporting Cardiff City. Nothing will ever beat how distraught I felt that night. I felt like an away fan in my own stadium and felt I lost my club. Until that night, I was hopeful the fans would rally, thankfully we are now but a lot of irreparable damage has already been done. Cardiff City died for me that night, but now we have to try and bring our club back to life.

Do you still go?

Yes, you really think I'm going to give up turning up to games wearing blue, singing for blue and allow a red glory hunting plastic to take my place? It's taken a long time, but the time we get our blue back will be because of the 19.27 blue scarf protests plus countless other protests and events that have been arranged. If every blue fan stopped going, we could have a sea of red scarves being held up at 19.27 and then we would never get our club back. I will never stop fighting for my club and I will keep fighting until I get my club back!

had he converted debt to equity 2 years back..........

wouldnt all the debt since then be a debt now?

we would have been debt free for about 3 minutes

No unless he turned us back to blue aswell.

He will never turn the debt to equity he's probably loving that the club owe him so much money in loan repayments.

No unless he turned us back to blue aswell.

He will never turn the debt to equity he's probably loving that the club owe him so much money in loan repayments.

Exactly. This isn't debt that he's paying for. In fact, he's probably making profit from our debt!

He lost my respect when he failed to show our tradition and heritage respect. That will not be regained. I will forgive him if he turns us back to blue and turns debt to equity but I won't forget him doing what he did. Too late for that now.

No unless he turned us back to blue aswell.

He will never turn the debt to equity he's probably loving that the club owe him so much money in loan repayments.

Exactly. This isn't debt that he's paying for. In fact, he's probably making profit from our debt!

He lost my respect when he failed to show our tradition and heritage respect. That will not be regained. I will forgive him if he turns us back to blue and turns debt to equity but I won't forget him doing what he did. Too late for that now.

No unless he turned us back to blue aswell.....



Okay try reading the OP again.
If VT promised to undo what he has done and convert the debt to equity.
Would you back him ?

If VT promised to undo what he has done and convert the debt to equity.
Would you back him ?

Absolutely tony, take the colour change out of it (i know it's the main concern for everyone) and he has done nothing wrong, he's the only owner we've ever had who has actually had/got any money, he has backed our managers massively in the transfer market, (especially malky) paid off hammam, building a state of the art training facility and expanding the stadium, now VT, all you after do is change debt to equity and give us our rightfull colours back and we'll all leave you alone.

If VT promised to undo what he has done and convert the debt to equity.
Would you back him ?

Absolutely tony, take the colour change out of it (i know it's the main concern for everyone) and he has done nothing wrong, he's the only owner we've ever had who has actually had/got any money, he has backed our managers massively in the transfer market, (especially malky) paid off hammam, building a state of the art training facility and expanding the stadium, now VT, all you after do is change debt to equity and give us our rightfull colours back and we'll all leave you alone.

Done nothing wrong?

He has tripled your debt within two years - now past the £100,000,000 mark and had the clubs wage to income ratio at 189% from the last accounts. He has sacked anyone in the club who speaks out without with the clubs welfare in mind and replaced them with people who only look after Tans personal interests.

And you think he has done nothing wrong?

Bizarre.