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2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:14 pm

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South Wales Echo comment: Blue is our colour...It's time to fight for Cardiff City's traditions

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Thursday May 08th 2014.

By Tim Gordon

South Wales Echo editor Tim Gordon says the newspaper got it wrong two years ago by taking a neutral stance over Cardiff City's rebranding. " Now, it is time to fight "

Cardiff City Fans protest, "Hate The Red", Love The Blue"


It’s two years ago to the week that news first broke of Vincent Tan’s decision to rebrand Cardiff City and to change the team’s strip colour from blue to “lucky” red.

At the time the Echo listened to arguments from both sides.

At the time it was made clear to us, and to the Cardiff City faithful, that Mr Tan’s investment in the club hinged on the rebrand.

Here was a man ready to spend millions to get Cardiff into the Premier League. A man, we were told, who would pay off the Langstone debt, build a new training ground and convert his debt to equity in exchange for seeing the team play in red.

It seemed ridiculous then that a self-made billionaire could place so much emphasis on a change of colour. It seems even more so now.

At the time this newspaper took a neutral stance. We recognised that, without Mr Tan’s money, the club’s future was uncertain. We called on him to honour his pledges in exchange for the rebrand and sat back to wait and see.

What happened since has been well documented

Today, however, we apologise for taking that neutral stance. We should have said “No!”. We should have fought alongside the City faithful who despaired at seeing their club’s traditions and colours cast aside.

Today, in recognising that we got it wrong, we are asking Mr Tan to recognise that he too got it wrong.

Today we call on him to unite the club and its tremendous fanbase for the Championship season ahead by giving them back their colours, their badge and their Bluebirds.

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:16 pm

Two years to late

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:23 pm

Having the echo / wales online behind a protest from the start would have made a huge difference !

They let the Cardiff city supporters down at the time and over the last two years , now just as it looks like the protests are getting somewhere they want in :lol:

They can go f**k themselves as far as I'm concerned , when we the fans needed them they were nowhere to be seen !

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:23 pm

now the South Wales Echo decide to do something! :lol: suppose it's better late than never! yes we all should acted earlier, but if we go by people saying 'no point doing something now as nothing was done earlier' then we won't get anywhere!

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:25 pm

CalShepCCFC wrote:now the South Wales Echo decide to do something! :lol: suppose it's better late than never! yes we all should acted earlier, but if we go by people saying 'no point doing something now as nothing was done earlier' then we won't get anywhere!


Spot on Cal, I know many never backed us 2 years ago, but its never to late :thumbup: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:26 pm

At last!
Well done to the Echo.
Lets all now put more pressure on the club to give us our identity back.
Bluebirds!!!

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:28 pm

Buchanan's Exocet wrote:At last!
Well done to the Echo.
Lets all now put more pressure on the club to give us our identity back.
Bluebirds!!!



" BLUEBIRDS " :thumbup: :bluescarf:

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: " WE ARE CARDIFF CITY WE WILL ALWAYS BE BLUE " :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:30 pm

Echo sales dropping and we need more punters, I take that to mean. :roll:

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:31 pm

They're only doing it because they think they will sell more newspapers :lol: Pathetic

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:32 pm

thomasblue wrote:Having the echo / wales online behind a protest from the start would have made a huge difference !

They let the Cardiff city supporters down at the time and over the last two years , now just as it looks like the protests are getting somewhere they want in :lol:

They can go f**k themselves as far as I'm concerned , when we the fans needed them they were nowhere to be seen !


That's how I feel about the Echo too I'm sure their only doing it to get more sales

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:34 pm

Signed.

:bluescarf:

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:34 pm

Call me cynical, but Echo jumping on band wagon just for more sales, nothing to do with them having a change of heart.

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:36 pm

Well done Echo.. I've no reason to doubt their integrity in giving us their reasons as to why they changed their minds. Who hasn't changed their mind? Nothing wrong in that :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:37 pm

Bit rich having a pop at the Echo.

As the old threads on here show some of our fans leaders weren't exactly kicking up a fuss 2 years ago were they??

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:38 pm

NeathBlue wrote:Signed.

:bluescarf:


Thats the Spirit :thumbup: :bluescarf:

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:38 pm

Welshpaul wrote:Bit rich having a pop at the Echo.

As the old threads on here show some of our fans leaders weren't exactly kicking up a fuss 2 years ago were they??


For once I agree with you Paul :thumbup: :bluescarf:

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:41 pm

Will they be askin the red leader for a quote this time?

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:48 pm

Let bygones be bygones......If you want the club united then Let Go of the grudges and don't worry about what any prominent City supporters said at the time, it doesn't matter, it's gone.....It's NOW THAT COUNTS, NOTHING ELSE!!!!!! :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:50 pm

Right!! the Echo was 2 years late. The Fans are two years late and the fans leaders are two years to late. The echo and the rest of the fans need to hang there heads. But some Fans leaders are still banging there gums in favour of the re brand. That is shameful.
But lets get this straight "It ISNT to late". The Echo may be late but we now need to work together. Our downfall is we have never been as one. So if your reasoning you aint signing the petition because of your views against the Echo then you are cutting off you knob to spite your Bollocks.

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:50 pm

Daft Dave wrote:Let bygones be bygones......If you want the club united then Let Go of the grudges and don't worry about what any prominent City supporters said at the time, it doesn't matter, it's gone.....It's NOW THAT COUNTS, NOTHING ELSE!!!!!! :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Dave, I agree,its time to Unite :thumbup: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:50 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Right!! the Echo was 2 years late. The Fans are two years late and the fans leaders are two years to late. The echo and the rest of the fans need to hang there heads. But some Fans leaders are still banging there gums in favour of the re brand. That is shameful.
But lets get this straight "It ISNT to late". The Echo may be late but we now need to work together. Our downfall is we have never been as one. So if your reasoning you aint signing the petition because of your views against the Echo then you are cutting off you knob to spite your Bollocks.



Nukes, Spot on :thumbup: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:55 pm

Just signed.

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:56 pm

Wop wrote:Just signed.

:thumbup: :bluescarf:

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:58 pm

Signed :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 5:59 pm

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South Wales Echo comment: Blue is our colour...It's time to fight for Cardiff City's traditions

Thursday May 08th 2014.

By Tim Gordon

South Wales Echo editor Tim Gordon says the newspaper got it wrong two years ago by taking a neutral stance over Cardiff City's rebranding. " Now, it is time to fight "

Cardiff City Fans protest, "Hate The Red", Love The Blue"


It’s two years ago to the week that news first broke of Vincent Tan’s decision to rebrand Cardiff City and to change the team’s strip colour from blue to “lucky” red.

At the time the Echo listened to arguments from both sides.

At the time it was made clear to us, and to the Cardiff City faithful, that Mr Tan’s investment in the club hinged on the rebrand.

Here was a man ready to spend millions to get Cardiff into the Premier League. A man, we were told, who would pay off the Langstone debt, build a new training ground and convert his debt to equity in exchange for seeing the team play in red.

It seemed ridiculous then that a self-made billionaire could place so much emphasis on a change of colour. It seems even more so now.

At the time this newspaper took a neutral stance. We recognised that, without Mr Tan’s money, the club’s future was uncertain. We called on him to honour his pledges in exchange for the rebrand and sat back to wait and see.

What happened since has been well documented

Today, however, we apologise for taking that neutral stance. We should have said “No!”. We should have fought alongside the City faithful who despaired at seeing their club’s traditions and colours cast aside.

Today, in recognising that we got it wrong, we are asking Mr Tan to recognise that he too got it wrong.

Today we call on him to unite the club and its tremendous fanbase for the Championship season ahead by giving them back their colours, their badge and their Bluebirds.


Never to late it matters just as much now to me as it did then.
Those who have turned from red back to blue is cool the more the merrier after all we are fans of the same club. We are all United now as a club we all want blue and the crest back the only man against that now is Vincent tan. Its gonna be a crap season of negativity and anger if he dont listen now.

Lessons should also be learned from the fans never turn your back on your club no matter how big the financial gain is.

No man is bigger than are proud club tan is nothing other than a deceitful blackmailer who has to be stopped.
At last well done the echo

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 6:00 pm

Better late than never, having the local media behind us can only be a good thing. We need to unite now and stop 'he said this', 'he didn't do this' nonsense.

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 6:03 pm

Signed

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 6:03 pm

Signed.

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Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 6:07 pm

Latest News wrote:Please Sign the BLUE petition
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South Wales Echo comment: Blue is our colour...It's time to fight for Cardiff City's traditions

Thursday May 08th 2014.

By Tim Gordon

South Wales Echo editor Tim Gordon says the newspaper got it wrong two years ago by taking a neutral stance over Cardiff City's rebranding. " Now, it is time to fight "

Cardiff City Fans protest, "Hate The Red", Love The Blue"


It’s two years ago to the week that news first broke of Vincent Tan’s decision to rebrand Cardiff City and to change the team’s strip colour from blue to “lucky” red.

At the time the Echo listened to arguments from both sides.

At the time it was made clear to us, and to the Cardiff City faithful, that Mr Tan’s investment in the club hinged on the rebrand.

Here was a man ready to spend millions to get Cardiff into the Premier League. A man, we were told, who would pay off the Langstone debt, build a new training ground and convert his debt to equity in exchange for seeing the team play in red.

It seemed ridiculous then that a self-made billionaire could place so much emphasis on a change of colour. It seems even more so now.

At the time this newspaper took a neutral stance. We recognised that, without Mr Tan’s money, the club’s future was uncertain. We called on him to honour his pledges in exchange for the rebrand and sat back to wait and see.

What happened since has been well documented

Today, however, we apologise for taking that neutral stance. We should have said “No!”. We should have fought alongside the City faithful who despaired at seeing their club’s traditions and colours cast aside.

Today, in recognising that we got it wrong, we are asking Mr Tan to recognise that he too got it wrong.

Today we call on him to unite the club and its tremendous fanbase for the Championship season ahead by giving them back their colours, their badge and their Bluebirds.


Never to late it matters just as much now to me as it did then.
Those who have turned from red back to blue is cool the more the merrier after all we are fans of the same club. We are all United now as a club we all want blue and the crest back the only man against that now is Vincent tan. Its gonna be a crap season of negativity and anger if he dont listen now.

Lessons should also be learned from the fans never turn your back on your club no matter how big the financial gain is.

No man is bigger than are proud club tan is nothing other than a deceitful blackmailer who has to be stopped.
At last well done the echo

Re: 2 Years ago We got it wrong " Now, it is time to fight "

Thu May 08, 2014 6:11 pm

Against Modern petitions 8-)