Wed May 07, 2014 10:45 pm
Wed May 07, 2014 10:55 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:With Sunderland winning tonight that means 17th will now finish with at least 36 points.
Malkys ratio of points we were told would have lead us to safety.
"The football wasnt pretty but we were picking up enough points to keep us up"
Well I am afraid my little malkyites that if you want to play the ratio game Malky finishes on 36 points and a very poor goal difference so even if WBA dont pick up a point on Sunday theoretically we would still go down on goal difference.
Wed May 07, 2014 11:14 pm
welshman90 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:With Sunderland winning tonight that means 17th will now finish with at least 36 points.
Malkys ratio of points we were told would have lead us to safety.
"The football wasnt pretty but we were picking up enough points to keep us up"
Well I am afraid my little malkyites that if you want to play the ratio game Malky finishes on 36 points and a very poor goal difference so even if WBA dont pick up a point on Sunday theoretically we would still go down on goal difference.
There's no way whatsoever to predict how many more points Malky would have gotten for all we know we could have less points than now, it's all ifs and buts
Wed May 07, 2014 11:19 pm
Wed May 07, 2014 11:28 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Well I am afraid my little malkyites
Wed May 07, 2014 11:49 pm
bspark wrote:I agree with the reply above but before the season started I predicted where our points should come from. If everything went to my plan I thought we could get to 43 points as an absolute maximum. However, I predicted we would only get 14 points from the 18 games Malky was in charge and a maximum of 29 points from the last 20 games.
Malky got 17 points which is 21% more than I thought was possible.
We got 13 points from the other games which is only 45% of what I thought was possible.
So in my opinion Malky managed to get the team to over perform by 21% where as Ole was responsible for a team performing at less than 50% of what I thought they were capable of achieving.
That's why for me Ole has to go.
Wed May 07, 2014 11:52 pm
bspark wrote:I agree with the reply above but before the season started I predicted where our points should come from. If everything went to my plan I thought we could get to 43 points as an absolute maximum. However, I predicted we would only get 14 points from the 18 games Malky was in charge and a maximum of 29 points from the last 20 games.
Malky got 17 points which is 21% more than I thought was possible.
We got 13 points from the other games which is only 45% of what I thought was possible.
So in my opinion Malky managed to get the team to over perform by 21% where as Ole was responsible for a team performing at less than 50% of what I thought they were capable of achieving.
That's why for me Ole has to go.
Wed May 07, 2014 11:52 pm
welshman90 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:With Sunderland winning tonight that means 17th will now finish with at least 36 points.
Malkys ratio of points we were told would have lead us to safety.
"The football wasnt pretty but we were picking up enough points to keep us up"
Well I am afraid my little malkyites that if you want to play the ratio game Malky finishes on 36 points and a very poor goal difference so even if WBA dont pick up a point on Sunday theoretically we would still go down on goal difference.
There's no way whatsoever to predict how many more points Malky would have gotten for all we know we could have less points than now, it's all ifs and buts
Thu May 08, 2014 5:22 am
Thu May 08, 2014 6:42 am
Thu May 08, 2014 7:08 am
simon.wiesenthal wrote:welshman90 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:With Sunderland winning tonight that means 17th will now finish with at least 36 points.
Malkys ratio of points we were told would have lead us to safety.
"The football wasnt pretty but we were picking up enough points to keep us up"
Well I am afraid my little malkyites that if you want to play the ratio game Malky finishes on 36 points and a very poor goal difference so even if WBA dont pick up a point on Sunday theoretically we would still go down on goal difference.
There's no way whatsoever to predict how many more points Malky would have gotten for all we know we could have less points than now, it's all ifs and buts
the point has been made about 6 trillion times that Malkys points ratio would have kept us up........the point being made here.......is even had that ratio continued we would go down.........
Thu May 08, 2014 7:08 am
simon.wiesenthal wrote:bspark wrote:I agree with the reply above but before the season started I predicted where our points should come from. If everything went to my plan I thought we could get to 43 points as an absolute maximum. However, I predicted we would only get 14 points from the 18 games Malky was in charge and a maximum of 29 points from the last 20 games.
Malky got 17 points which is 21% more than I thought was possible.
We got 13 points from the other games which is only 45% of what I thought was possible.
So in my opinion Malky managed to get the team to over perform by 21% where as Ole was responsible for a team performing at less than 50% of what I thought they were capable of achieving.
That's why for me Ole has to go.
got to ask..how come a Malky team gets more points second half of season?
his record is the opposite
Thu May 08, 2014 7:09 am
bspark wrote:I agree with the reply above but before the season started I predicted where our points should come from. If everything went to my plan I thought we could get to 43 points as an absolute maximum. However, I predicted we would only get 14 points from the 18 games Malky was in charge and a maximum of 29 points from the last 20 games.
Malky got 17 points which is 21% more than I thought was possible.
We got 13 points from the other games which is only 45% of what I thought was possible.
So in my opinion Malky managed to get the team to over perform by 21% where as Ole was responsible for a team performing at less than 50% of what I thought they were capable of achieving.
That's why for me Ole has to go.
Thu May 08, 2014 7:11 am
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Thu May 08, 2014 7:17 am
bspark wrote:simon.wiesenthal wrote:bspark wrote:I agree with the reply above but before the season started I predicted where our points should come from. If everything went to my plan I thought we could get to 43 points as an absolute maximum. However, I predicted we would only get 14 points from the 18 games Malky was in charge and a maximum of 29 points from the last 20 games.
Malky got 17 points which is 21% more than I thought was possible.
We got 13 points from the other games which is only 45% of what I thought was possible.
So in my opinion Malky managed to get the team to over perform by 21% where as Ole was responsible for a team performing at less than 50% of what I thought they were capable of achieving.
That's why for me Ole has to go.
got to ask..how come a Malky team gets more points second half of season?
his record is the opposite
Just look through the fixtures we had as if it's the start of the season and try to work out where you think the team should get 40ish points from for survival. Nobody would predict more points from our first 19 fixtures compared to second 19 because the fixture list was so much harder.
I thought we could aim for 3 points at home to west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland, west ham, Norwich, villa, hull, Fulham, palace and stoke
I aimed for draws at home to Newcastle and Swansea and away at west ham, hull, Fulham, Norwich, villa, palace, Swansea, west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland and Newcastle.
I thought we would lose all our games against top seven and away at Stoke.
If you break this down it is 14 points up for grabs in first 18 fixtures and 29 in last 20 fixtures.
Thu May 08, 2014 7:18 am
Thu May 08, 2014 7:20 am
bspark wrote:It actually turned out we were doing far better than expected when he was sacked.
Thu May 08, 2014 7:20 am
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:bspark wrote:simon.wiesenthal wrote:bspark wrote:I agree with the reply above but before the season started I predicted where our points should come from. If everything went to my plan I thought we could get to 43 points as an absolute maximum. However, I predicted we would only get 14 points from the 18 games Malky was in charge and a maximum of 29 points from the last 20 games.
Malky got 17 points which is 21% more than I thought was possible.
We got 13 points from the other games which is only 45% of what I thought was possible.
So in my opinion Malky managed to get the team to over perform by 21% where as Ole was responsible for a team performing at less than 50% of what I thought they were capable of achieving.
That's why for me Ole has to go.
got to ask..how come a Malky team gets more points second half of season?
his record is the opposite
Just look through the fixtures we had as if it's the start of the season and try to work out where you think the team should get 40ish points from for survival. Nobody would predict more points from our first 19 fixtures compared to second 19 because the fixture list was so much harder.
I thought we could aim for 3 points at home to west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland, west ham, Norwich, villa, hull, Fulham, palace and stoke
I aimed for draws at home to Newcastle and Swansea and away at west ham, hull, Fulham, Norwich, villa, palace, Swansea, west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland and Newcastle.
I thought we would lose all our games against top seven and away at Stoke.
If you break this down it is 14 points up for grabs in first 18 fixtures and 29 in last 20 fixtures.
Dear lord
Thu May 08, 2014 7:22 am
bspark wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:bspark wrote:simon.wiesenthal wrote:bspark wrote:I agree with the reply above but before the season started I predicted where our points should come from. If everything went to my plan I thought we could get to 43 points as an absolute maximum. However, I predicted we would only get 14 points from the 18 games Malky was in charge and a maximum of 29 points from the last 20 games.
Malky got 17 points which is 21% more than I thought was possible.
We got 13 points from the other games which is only 45% of what I thought was possible.
So in my opinion Malky managed to get the team to over perform by 21% where as Ole was responsible for a team performing at less than 50% of what I thought they were capable of achieving.
That's why for me Ole has to go.
got to ask..how come a Malky team gets more points second half of season?
his record is the opposite
Just look through the fixtures we had as if it's the start of the season and try to work out where you think the team should get 40ish points from for survival. Nobody would predict more points from our first 19 fixtures compared to second 19 because the fixture list was so much harder.
I thought we could aim for 3 points at home to west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland, west ham, Norwich, villa, hull, Fulham, palace and stoke
I aimed for draws at home to Newcastle and Swansea and away at west ham, hull, Fulham, Norwich, villa, palace, Swansea, west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland and Newcastle.
I thought we would lose all our games against top seven and away at Stoke.
If you break this down it is 14 points up for grabs in first 18 fixtures and 29 in last 20 fixtures.
Dear lord
I assume you thought we would lose heavily at home to west ham, hull and palace and that we should have got more from home games against Arsenal, Everton, Spurs and Man Utd. Dear lord indeed
Thu May 08, 2014 7:29 am
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:bspark wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:bspark wrote:simon.wiesenthal wrote:bspark wrote:I agree with the reply above but before the season started I predicted where our points should come from. If everything went to my plan I thought we could get to 43 points as an absolute maximum. However, I predicted we would only get 14 points from the 18 games Malky was in charge and a maximum of 29 points from the last 20 games.
Malky got 17 points which is 21% more than I thought was possible.
We got 13 points from the other games which is only 45% of what I thought was possible.
So in my opinion Malky managed to get the team to over perform by 21% where as Ole was responsible for a team performing at less than 50% of what I thought they were capable of achieving.
That's why for me Ole has to go.
got to ask..how come a Malky team gets more points second half of season?
his record is the opposite
Just look through the fixtures we had as if it's the start of the season and try to work out where you think the team should get 40ish points from for survival. Nobody would predict more points from our first 19 fixtures compared to second 19 because the fixture list was so much harder.
I thought we could aim for 3 points at home to west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland, west ham, Norwich, villa, hull, Fulham, palace and stoke
I aimed for draws at home to Newcastle and Swansea and away at west ham, hull, Fulham, Norwich, villa, palace, Swansea, west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland and Newcastle.
I thought we would lose all our games against top seven and away at Stoke.
If you break this down it is 14 points up for grabs in first 18 fixtures and 29 in last 20 fixtures.
Dear lord
I assume you thought we would lose heavily at home to west ham, hull and palace and that we should have got more from home games against Arsenal, Everton, Spurs and Man Utd. Dear lord indeed
I didnt think we would go away to West Ham, Palace, Villa, Stoke and Norwich and fail to create a chance.
Malkys teams are usually fucked by February, this season they were fucked by November so quite how you think we would have reversed the slide of being cut adrift on 14 points at Xmas to end up on 43 points I dont know.
Thu May 08, 2014 7:39 am
bspark wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:bspark wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:bspark wrote:simon.wiesenthal wrote:bspark wrote:I agree with the reply above but before the season started I predicted where our points should come from. If everything went to my plan I thought we could get to 43 points as an absolute maximum. However, I predicted we would only get 14 points from the 18 games Malky was in charge and a maximum of 29 points from the last 20 games.
Malky got 17 points which is 21% more than I thought was possible.
We got 13 points from the other games which is only 45% of what I thought was possible.
So in my opinion Malky managed to get the team to over perform by 21% where as Ole was responsible for a team performing at less than 50% of what I thought they were capable of achieving.
That's why for me Ole has to go.
got to ask..how come a Malky team gets more points second half of season?
his record is the opposite
Just look through the fixtures we had as if it's the start of the season and try to work out where you think the team should get 40ish points from for survival. Nobody would predict more points from our first 19 fixtures compared to second 19 because the fixture list was so much harder.
I thought we could aim for 3 points at home to west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland, west ham, Norwich, villa, hull, Fulham, palace and stoke
I aimed for draws at home to Newcastle and Swansea and away at west ham, hull, Fulham, Norwich, villa, palace, Swansea, west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland and Newcastle.
I thought we would lose all our games against top seven and away at Stoke.
If you break this down it is 14 points up for grabs in first 18 fixtures and 29 in last 20 fixtures.
Dear lord
I assume you thought we would lose heavily at home to west ham, hull and palace and that we should have got more from home games against Arsenal, Everton, Spurs and Man Utd. Dear lord indeed
I didnt think we would go away to West Ham, Palace, Villa, Stoke and Norwich and fail to create a chance.
Malkys teams are usually fucked by February, this season they were fucked by November so quite how you think we would have reversed the slide of being cut adrift on 14 points at Xmas to end up on 43 points I dont know.
Which is why I predicted he would be sacked and a better man for the job brought in. Unfortunately the second part of the sentence didn't happen.
Thu May 08, 2014 7:48 am
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:bspark wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:bspark wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:bspark wrote:simon.wiesenthal wrote:bspark wrote:I agree with the reply above but before the season started I predicted where our points should come from. If everything went to my plan I thought we could get to 43 points as an absolute maximum. However, I predicted we would only get 14 points from the 18 games Malky was in charge and a maximum of 29 points from the last 20 games.
Malky got 17 points which is 21% more than I thought was possible.
We got 13 points from the other games which is only 45% of what I thought was possible.
So in my opinion Malky managed to get the team to over perform by 21% where as Ole was responsible for a team performing at less than 50% of what I thought they were capable of achieving.
That's why for me Ole has to go.
got to ask..how come a Malky team gets more points second half of season?
his record is the opposite
Just look through the fixtures we had as if it's the start of the season and try to work out where you think the team should get 40ish points from for survival. Nobody would predict more points from our first 19 fixtures compared to second 19 because the fixture list was so much harder.
I thought we could aim for 3 points at home to west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland, west ham, Norwich, villa, hull, Fulham, palace and stoke
I aimed for draws at home to Newcastle and Swansea and away at west ham, hull, Fulham, Norwich, villa, palace, Swansea, west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland and Newcastle.
I thought we would lose all our games against top seven and away at Stoke.
If you break this down it is 14 points up for grabs in first 18 fixtures and 29 in last 20 fixtures.
Dear lord
I assume you thought we would lose heavily at home to west ham, hull and palace and that we should have got more from home games against Arsenal, Everton, Spurs and Man Utd. Dear lord indeed
I didnt think we would go away to West Ham, Palace, Villa, Stoke and Norwich and fail to create a chance.
Malkys teams are usually fucked by February, this season they were fucked by November so quite how you think we would have reversed the slide of being cut adrift on 14 points at Xmas to end up on 43 points I dont know.
Which is why I predicted he would be sacked and a better man for the job brought in. Unfortunately the second part of the sentence didn't happen.
Did you predict these results before or after we blew 35m on utter guff?
Thu May 08, 2014 7:52 am
bspark wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:bspark wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:bspark wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:bspark wrote:simon.wiesenthal wrote:bspark wrote:I agree with the reply above but before the season started I predicted where our points should come from. If everything went to my plan I thought we could get to 43 points as an absolute maximum. However, I predicted we would only get 14 points from the 18 games Malky was in charge and a maximum of 29 points from the last 20 games.
Malky got 17 points which is 21% more than I thought was possible.
We got 13 points from the other games which is only 45% of what I thought was possible.
So in my opinion Malky managed to get the team to over perform by 21% where as Ole was responsible for a team performing at less than 50% of what I thought they were capable of achieving.
That's why for me Ole has to go.
got to ask..how come a Malky team gets more points second half of season?
his record is the opposite
Just look through the fixtures we had as if it's the start of the season and try to work out where you think the team should get 40ish points from for survival. Nobody would predict more points from our first 19 fixtures compared to second 19 because the fixture list was so much harder.
I thought we could aim for 3 points at home to west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland, west ham, Norwich, villa, hull, Fulham, palace and stoke
I aimed for draws at home to Newcastle and Swansea and away at west ham, hull, Fulham, Norwich, villa, palace, Swansea, west Brom, Southampton, Sunderland and Newcastle.
I thought we would lose all our games against top seven and away at Stoke.
If you break this down it is 14 points up for grabs in first 18 fixtures and 29 in last 20 fixtures.
Dear lord
I assume you thought we would lose heavily at home to west ham, hull and palace and that we should have got more from home games against Arsenal, Everton, Spurs and Man Utd. Dear lord indeed
I didnt think we would go away to West Ham, Palace, Villa, Stoke and Norwich and fail to create a chance.
Malkys teams are usually fucked by February, this season they were fucked by November so quite how you think we would have reversed the slide of being cut adrift on 14 points at Xmas to end up on 43 points I dont know.
Which is why I predicted he would be sacked and a better man for the job brought in. Unfortunately the second part of the sentence didn't happen.
Did you predict these results before or after we blew 35m on utter guff?
Independently, predicted as if it was any newly promoted team looking to get 40 points.
At no point on this thread have I said Malky would keep us up. All I have said is that when Malky was sacked I believe the team were over performing. Ole's reign has been an abject failure and someone else should have been brought in who like Pulis at Palace could have taken advantage of the points on offer in the second half of the season.
I'm not a Malky fan, just think Ole is crap compared to him.
Thu May 08, 2014 8:05 am
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:With Sunderland winning tonight that means 17th will now finish with at least 36 points.
Malkys ratio of points we were told would have lead us to safety.
"The football wasnt pretty but we were picking up enough points to keep us up"
Well I am afraid my little malkyites that if you want to play the ratio game Malky finishes on 36 points and a very poor goal difference so even if WBA dont pick up a point on Sunday theoretically we would still go down on goal difference.
Thu May 08, 2014 8:08 am
Thu May 08, 2014 8:08 am
Bluebird64 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:With Sunderland winning tonight that means 17th will now finish with at least 36 points.
Malkys ratio of points we were told would have lead us to safety.
"The football wasnt pretty but we were picking up enough points to keep us up"
Well I am afraid my little malkyites that if you want to play the ratio game Malky finishes on 36 points and a very poor goal difference so even if WBA dont pick up a point on Sunday theoretically we would still go down on goal difference.
We all know that you hate Malky and are still pro Tan so I view your post as the ramblings of someone who is just trying to justify his position. .
Thu May 08, 2014 8:11 am
bspark wrote:You are completely missing my point, hopefully deliberately rather than through mental capacity. I am predicting targets to pick up points, basically saying try to win at home against worst 10 clubs and draw away against worst 10 clubs to get to 40 points. The fixture list means that this is really imbalanced between first half of season and second because we are at home to most of worst 10 clubs in second half.
Therefore it was going to be a huge effort for any manager to keep us up and I don't believe either of the two we employed were up to it. Hull for example had more home games against bottom clubs in the first half of the season. However, if you just judge each manager we did have against that target of 3 points at home 1 away to worst 10 clubs then Malky was above his target and Ole was less than halfway to the target.
Thu May 08, 2014 8:19 am
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:With Sunderland winning tonight that means 17th will now finish with at least 36 points.
Malkys ratio of points we were told would have lead us to safety.
"The football wasnt pretty but we were picking up enough points to keep us up"
Well I am afraid my little malkyites that if you want to play the ratio game Malky finishes on 36 points and a very poor goal difference so even if WBA dont pick up a point on Sunday theoretically we would still go down on goal difference.
We all know that you hate Malky and are still pro Tan so I view your post as the ramblings of someone who is just trying to justify his position. .
I stopped reading your jibber jabber after this point.
Not liking Malky has f**k ALL to do with supporting Tan they are two seperate issues.
I f*cking hate Tan for what he has done with the rebrand and as a result I have not renewed, and wont be until hes gone or we return to blue.
Your 50 years old, start acting it you great big whopper.
Thu May 08, 2014 8:25 am
Bluebird64 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:With Sunderland winning tonight that means 17th will now finish with at least 36 points.
Malkys ratio of points we were told would have lead us to safety.
"The football wasnt pretty but we were picking up enough points to keep us up"
Well I am afraid my little malkyites that if you want to play the ratio game Malky finishes on 36 points and a very poor goal difference so even if WBA dont pick up a point on Sunday theoretically we would still go down on goal difference.
We all know that you hate Malky and are still pro Tan so I view your post as the ramblings of someone who is just trying to justify his position. .
I stopped reading your jibber jabber after this point.
Not liking Malky has f**k ALL to do with supporting Tan they are two seperate issues.
I f*cking hate Tan for what he has done with the rebrand and as a result I have not renewed, and wont be until hes gone or we return to blue.
Your 50 years old, start acting it you great big whopper.
I'm not 50 years old at at all so another example of you inventing facts to suit your agenda. You claim not to support Tan but did support him when he undermined Malky for weeks then sacked him which ultimately cost us the points needed to have a chance of keeping us up. To replace Malky when Tan did was a huge mistake which has relegated us. Like I said you supported this decision and instead of now admitting it was a wrong move, you try and point the finger at Malky in order to mask your poor judgement. Well I must point out you are fooling no one.
Thu May 08, 2014 8:33 am
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:With Sunderland winning tonight that means 17th will now finish with at least 36 points.
Malkys ratio of points we were told would have lead us to safety.
"The football wasnt pretty but we were picking up enough points to keep us up"
Well I am afraid my little malkyites that if you want to play the ratio game Malky finishes on 36 points and a very poor goal difference so even if WBA dont pick up a point on Sunday theoretically we would still go down on goal difference.
We all know that you hate Malky and are still pro Tan so I view your post as the ramblings of someone who is just trying to justify his position. .
I stopped reading your jibber jabber after this point.
Not liking Malky has f**k ALL to do with supporting Tan they are two seperate issues.
I f*cking hate Tan for what he has done with the rebrand and as a result I have not renewed, and wont be until hes gone or we return to blue.
Your 50 years old, start acting it you great big whopper.
I'm not 50 years old at at all so another example of you inventing facts to suit your agenda. You claim not to support Tan but did support him when he undermined Malky for weeks then sacked him which ultimately cost us the points needed to have a chance of keeping us up. To replace Malky when Tan did was a huge mistake which has relegated us. Like I said you supported this decision and instead of now admitting it was a wrong move, you try and point the finger at Malky in order to mask your poor judgement. Well I must point out you are fooling no one.
100% I support his decision to sack Sir Hoofball that doesnt mean I am Pro-Tan as you put it you f*cking idiot. it just means I agree with one of his decisions.