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FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 8:48 am

A new competition for Premier League and Championship clubs to field B teams will be considered by the Football Association on Wednesday.
It has been proposed that the teams could play in a league sandwiched between League Two and the Conference.
Another option is to merge League Two and the Conference with the B teams to form two regional leagues.
The proposals are part of FA chairman Greg Dyke's commission on the future of the national team.
It is understood that the Premier League and Football League clubs are broadly in favour of the B team concept, which would be predominantly made up of homegrown players, but have reservations about how it might fit into the pyramid and the knock-on effects to other leagues and competitions.
One question is whether current League Two clubs would be relegated into the Conference or the new B team league if they went down. The other difficult issue is how far could B teams be promoted?
Despite those worries, one source told the BBC that following more than 300 interviews with clubs and other stakeholders in the game, led by research consultant Peter Beverley, there was a universal acceptance that a major overhaul was needed to ensure big clubs' reserve teams and younger English talent were being given more regular, competitive football.
Commission members point to the fact that clubs in Spain, France and Germany all play B teams in competitive leagues - thought to be a big factor in those countries developing talent.
Dyke is believed to be keen to open the debate about the state of the national game ahead of the World Cup finals in Brazil which kick off on 12 June.
There is a determination to get on the front foot ahead of the tournament to pre-empt the inevitable debate which will follow if Roy Hodgson's England team put in a disappointing performance in Brazil.
Ironically the emergence of players like Raheem Sterling at Liverpool and Adam Lallana at Southampton have taken some of the heat out of that debate in recent months.
And some senior figures inside the FA are urging Dyke to hold fire until after the competition and until all the finer details of the commission's proposals are ironed out.
The Dyke commission was set up last autumn to try and address ongoing concerns about the strength of the English national team and the lack of top-class English talent forcing its way through into Premier League first teams.
The commission, which includes former England manager Glenn Hoddle, former Leeds boss Howard Wilkinson and ex-Crewe manager Dario Gradi, is aiming to deal with two major questions - the pathway for players aged between 17 and 21 and grassroots facilities.
While it is thought the commission has done extensive work on the first question, the issue of grassroots football is not yet complete.
Other proposals expected to go before the FA board on Wednesday include a shake-up of the loan system and changes to the homegrown player quotas operated by Premier League and Football League clubs.
But it is the B team proposal that promises to be the most controversial.

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 9:17 am

I read the first sentence and thought oh aye what are they gonna call it "the fa cup 3rd round" :lol: then reading on I realized it was a serious piece. :oops:

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 9:19 am

BLUEBIRD57 wrote:I read the first sentence and thought oh aye what are they gonna call it "the fa cup 3rd round" :lol: then reading on I realized it was a serious piece. :oops:


We might not have a first team next year the way some are talking!!!

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 9:28 am

It's about time this was given some thought, years ago there was the football combination where reserve team players and those coming back from injury got some game time and this helped the youngsters as they had the chance to play alongside first team players which was far better than them playing in a under 20 or youth team as every player on the pitch are inexperienced,I'm not sure changing the league system is the answer but simply creating a new regional reserve league is the answer for me.I don't know why they scrapped the combination but hopefully this will happen and can only be good if every player is getting game time every week. :bluescarf:

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 9:37 am

It would ruin smaller clubs that rely on loan players from the top two tier clubs. Awful idea that only has the bigger clubs' interests at heart. Would expect nothing less from Dyke.

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 10:05 am

Zabier wrote:It would ruin smaller clubs that rely on loan players from the top two tier clubs. Awful idea that only has the bigger clubs' interests at heart. Would expect nothing less from Dyke.



They said the same about the transfer window.

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 10:20 am

Zabier wrote:It would ruin smaller clubs that rely on loan players from the top two tier clubs. Awful idea that only has the bigger clubs' interests at heart. Would expect nothing less from Dyke.


Think this to.

There are plenty of English talents, but teams decide to go for proven foreign players instead.

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 10:21 am

We've been Manchester United B since the rebrand so this is hardly anything new.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 10:27 am

The welsh clubs should be allowed to field a 'B' team in the Welsh league

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 10:28 am

Military Junta wrote:The welsh clubs should be allowed to field a 'B' team in the Welsh league


Great idea. If they win the league then who goes into Europe? The B team or the first team is eligible too? :ayatollah:

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 10:32 am

Just let championship and prem sides field a b team in the Football League Trophy one if Liverpool, Man U, man city or Chelsea will make the final and sell out Wembley.

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 10:54 am

This is all about two things:

1. Greg Dyke wants to do something big with the train set while he's in charge, because England's not gonna win the World Cup.
2. Making a better production line for future England players, in theory. (Pretty dodgy theory, too).

For both reasons, I don't give a flying f**k.

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 11:46 am

Will ruin small clubs but same old FA only interested in the big clubs.

Re: FA ponders league shake-up

Tue May 06, 2014 4:53 pm

Only really beneficial to ten sides and it won't do much difference to the English national team, self self self is the thinking at the FA