Welcome Back Lads!

I know relegation isn't great and feel sorry for the lot of you having to put up with the shite that VT has thrown at you during a season when you should have been appreciating the finer points of the Premier League, such as sterile away atmospheres, large amount of tourist fans (Fulham and ManUre), biased referees, prawn sandwiches, inflated ticket prices, average football, being stuck in the gods (Newcastle, Sunderland), filth and sycophantic love ins (Chel***). But still on the bright side you are back where real football belongs, the Championship, matches every other day, more evening games, plenty of well priced tickets, supporters with a bit of knowledge about your team, more welcoming places to have a pre-match pint, better referees, smaller stadiums with better atmospheres, no tourists fans (they won't turn up at Fulham now), and a hell of a lot more fun, oh and you will see your team win a lot more and be much more competitive in a league where you stand a chance of winning. Just hope we screw the play-offs and remain down, can't stand the thought of another season in the 'best league in the world'.

Still all the best for the summer, next season will be much more fun and hopefully the megalomaniac might realise that red isn't so lucky now

I know relegation isn't great and feel sorry for the lot of you having to put up with the shite that VT has thrown at you during a season when you should have been appreciating the finer points of the Premier League, such as sterile away atmospheres, large amount of tourist fans (Fulham and ManUre), biased referees, prawn sandwiches, inflated ticket prices, average football, being stuck in the gods (Newcastle, Sunderland), filth and sycophantic love ins (Chel***). But still on the bright side you are back where real football belongs, the Championship, matches every other day, more evening games, plenty of well priced tickets, supporters with a bit of knowledge about your team, more welcoming places to have a pre-match pint, better referees, smaller stadiums with better atmospheres, no tourists fans (they won't turn up at Fulham now), and a hell of a lot more fun, oh and you will see your team win a lot more and be much more competitive in a league where you stand a chance of winning. Just hope we screw the play-offs and remain down, can't stand the thought of another season in the 'best league in the world'.

Still all the best for the summer, next season will be much more fun and hopefully the megalomaniac might realise that red isn't so lucky now

Great Post, I'm looking forward to it

I know relegation isn't great and feel sorry for the lot of you having to put up with the shite that VT has thrown at you during a season when you should have been appreciating the finer points of the Premier League, such as sterile away atmospheres, large amount of tourist fans (Fulham and ManUre), biased referees, prawn sandwiches, inflated ticket prices, average football, being stuck in the gods (Newcastle, Sunderland), filth and sycophantic love ins (Chel***). But still on the bright side you are back where real football belongs, the Championship, matches every other day, more evening games, plenty of well priced tickets, supporters with a bit of knowledge about your team, more welcoming places to have a pre-match pint, better referees, smaller stadiums with better atmospheres, no tourists fans (they won't turn up at Fulham now), and a hell of a lot more fun, oh and you will see your team win a lot more and be much more competitive in a league where you stand a chance of winning. Just hope we screw the play-offs and remain down, can't stand the thought of another season in the 'best league in the world'.

Still all the best for the summer, next season will be much more fun and hopefully the megalomaniac might realise that red isn't so lucky now

Great Post, I'm looking forward to it

Hopefully look forward to having a beer with some of you at the CCS next season, I will bring my as a badge of honour and respect!

back where there are no prima donas and thats just the referees

I know relegation isn't great and feel sorry for the lot of you having to put up with the shite that VT has thrown at you during a season when you should have been appreciating the finer points of the Premier League, such as sterile away atmospheres, large amount of tourist fans (Fulham and ManUre), biased referees, prawn sandwiches, inflated ticket prices, average football, being stuck in the gods (Newcastle, Sunderland), filth and sycophantic love ins (Chel***). But still on the bright side you are back where real football belongs, the Championship, matches every other day, more evening games, plenty of well priced tickets, supporters with a bit of knowledge about your team, more welcoming places to have a pre-match pint, better referees, smaller stadiums with better atmospheres, no tourists fans (they won't turn up at Fulham now), and a hell of a lot more fun, oh and you will see your team win a lot more and be much more competitive in a league where you stand a chance of winning. Just hope we screw the play-offs and remain down, can't stand the thought of another season in the 'best league in the world'.

Still all the best for the summer, next season will be much more fun and hopefully the megalomaniac might realise that red isn't so lucky now

Did you have biased referees officiating your games as well? I thought it was only us!

Got to be honest I'm looking forward to the challenge of the championship already, anyone can beat anyone, mid week games too!! Is it August yet????? We will come out of this better bluebirds!

I know relegation isn't great and feel sorry for the lot of you having to put up with the shite that VT has thrown at you during a season when you should have been appreciating the finer points of the Premier League, such as sterile away atmospheres, large amount of tourist fans (Fulham and ManUre), biased referees, prawn sandwiches, inflated ticket prices, average football, being stuck in the gods (Newcastle, Sunderland), filth and sycophantic love ins (Chel***). But still on the bright side you are back where real football belongs, the Championship, matches every other day, more evening games, plenty of well priced tickets, supporters with a bit of knowledge about your team, more welcoming places to have a pre-match pint, better referees, smaller stadiums with better atmospheres, no tourists fans (they won't turn up at Fulham now), and a hell of a lot more fun, oh and you will see your team win a lot more and be much more competitive in a league where you stand a chance of winning. Just hope we screw the play-offs and remain down, can't stand the thought of another season in the 'best league in the world'.

Still all the best for the summer, next season will be much more fun and hopefully the megalomaniac might realise that red isn't so lucky now

Did you have biased referees officiating your games as well? I thought it was only us!

Only at away games and against the so called big clubs and only when there names were Phil Dowd, Martin Atkinson, Howard Webb, Mark Clattenberg etc. The only refereeing performance of note during our two years stay was that of Chris Foy, when he sent of Boswinga and Drogba at LR when we beat the filth 1-0.

Waited 30 years experience the premiership,but hated every minute if it,a lot of fans will say its only because we ve gone down but some of the decision that have gone against us were shocking,the Sunderland game being a perfect example,even though they say by law the ref was right,but would he have given that penalty if it was one of the bigger sides?,I doubt it very much

Waited 30 years experience the premiership,but hated every minute if it,a lot of fans will say its only because we ve gone down but some of the decision that have gone against us were shocking,the Sunderland game being a perfect example,even though they say by law the ref was right,but would he have given that penalty if it was one of the bigger sides?,I doubt it very much

Is the correct answer. If that was against a big club then he would have booked Wickham for causing damage to the opposition defender's finger nails.

I know relegation isn't great and feel sorry for the lot of you having to put up with the shite that VT has thrown at you during a season when you should have been appreciating the finer points of the Premier League, such as sterile away atmospheres, large amount of tourist fans (Fulham and ManUre), biased referees, prawn sandwiches, inflated ticket prices, average football, being stuck in the gods (Newcastle, Sunderland), filth and sycophantic love ins (Chel***). But still on the bright side you are back where real football belongs, the Championship, matches every other day, more evening games, plenty of well priced tickets, supporters with a bit of knowledge about your team, more welcoming places to have a pre-match pint, better referees, smaller stadiums with better atmospheres, no tourists fans (they won't turn up at Fulham now), and a hell of a lot more fun, oh and you will see your team win a lot more and be much more competitive in a league where you stand a chance of winning. Just hope we screw the play-offs and remain down, can't stand the thought of another season in the 'best league in the world'.

Still all the best for the summer, next season will be much more fun and hopefully the megalomaniac might realise that red isn't so lucky now

The truth is that this relegation doesn't feel half as bad as the 7 or so throughout the past 40 years or missing out on promotion through the playoffs! It should have felt like the worse thing ever, as we have dropped from the top league that we have all spent our lives, dreaming of reaching. I can only put this ambivalence down to the rebrand and in fighting it has caused and the resulting effect being the distancing of our club from our fans. It doesn't hurt like it should, as the club doesn't feel like ours any more. I think this little episode in the Premiership and the rebrand that was a penalty that we paid to getting there,has really brought home to many supporters what is really important to them.

I know relegation isn't great and feel sorry for the lot of you having to put up with the shite that VT has thrown at you during a season when you should have been appreciating the finer points of the Premier League, such as sterile away atmospheres, large amount of tourist fans (Fulham and ManUre), biased referees, prawn sandwiches, inflated ticket prices, average football, being stuck in the gods (Newcastle, Sunderland), filth and sycophantic love ins (Chel***). But still on the bright side you are back where real football belongs, the Championship, matches every other day, more evening games, plenty of well priced tickets, supporters with a bit of knowledge about your team, more welcoming places to have a pre-match pint, better referees, smaller stadiums with better atmospheres, no tourists fans (they won't turn up at Fulham now), and a hell of a lot more fun, oh and you will see your team win a lot more and be much more competitive in a league where you stand a chance of winning. Just hope we screw the play-offs and remain down, can't stand the thought of another season in the 'best league in the world'.

Still all the best for the summer, next season will be much more fun and hopefully the megalomaniac might realise that red isn't so lucky now

Everything you warned and told us about the Premier League was true, but it was great going to some of those grounds.

I hope you do stay down as I love our games with you lot at your place

I know relegation isn't great and feel sorry for the lot of you having to put up with the shite that VT has thrown at you during a season when you should have been appreciating the finer points of the Premier League, such as sterile away atmospheres, large amount of tourist fans (Fulham and ManUre), biased referees, prawn sandwiches, inflated ticket prices, average football, being stuck in the gods (Newcastle, Sunderland), filth and sycophantic love ins (Chel***). But still on the bright side you are back where real football belongs, the Championship, matches every other day, more evening games, plenty of well priced tickets, supporters with a bit of knowledge about your team, more welcoming places to have a pre-match pint, better referees, smaller stadiums with better atmospheres, no tourists fans (they won't turn up at Fulham now), and a hell of a lot more fun, oh and you will see your team win a lot more and be much more competitive in a league where you stand a chance of winning. Just hope we screw the play-offs and remain down, can't stand the thought of another season in the 'best league in the world'.

Still all the best for the summer, next season will be much more fun and hopefully the megalomaniac might realise that red isn't so lucky now

The truth is that this relegation doesn't feel half as bad as the 7 or so throughout the past 40 years or missing out on promotion through the playoffs! It should have felt like the worse thing ever, as we have dropped from the top league that we have all spent our lives, dreaming of reaching. I can only put this ambivalence down to the rebrand and in fighting it has caused and the resulting effect being the distancing of our club from our fans. It doesn't hurt like it should, as the club doesn't feel like ours any more. I think this little episode in the Premiership and the rebrand that was a penalty that we paid to getting there,has really brought home to many supporters what is really important to them.

I feel exactly the same way. I was heartbroken when we lost to Reading and Blackpool in the playoffs, but this season feels more flat at the end. It doesn't feel like a relegation, just that we've played for too long in an unenjoyable league. Bring on august!

I know relegation isn't great and feel sorry for the lot of you having to put up with the shite that VT has thrown at you during a season when you should have been appreciating the finer points of the Premier League, such as sterile away atmospheres, large amount of tourist fans (Fulham and ManUre), biased referees, prawn sandwiches, inflated ticket prices, average football, being stuck in the gods (Newcastle, Sunderland), filth and sycophantic love ins (Chel***). But still on the bright side you are back where real football belongs, the Championship, matches every other day, more evening games, plenty of well priced tickets, supporters with a bit of knowledge about your team, more welcoming places to have a pre-match pint, better referees, smaller stadiums with better atmospheres, no tourists fans (they won't turn up at Fulham now), and a hell of a lot more fun, oh and you will see your team win a lot more and be much more competitive in a league where you stand a chance of winning. Just hope we screw the play-offs and remain down, can't stand the thought of another season in the 'best league in the world'.

Still all the best for the summer, next season will be much more fun and hopefully the megalomaniac might realise that red isn't so lucky now

Everything you warned and told us about the Premier League was true, but it was great going to some of those grounds.

Did you take a couple of Sherpas to help guide you to the away seating yesterday Annis? Next time you are back down the Bush for some proper football lunch will be on me.

I hope you do stay down as I love our games with you lot at your place

I know relegation isn't great and feel sorry for the lot of you having to put up with the shite that VT has thrown at you during a season when you should have been appreciating the finer points of the Premier League, such as sterile away atmospheres, large amount of tourist fans (Fulham and ManUre), biased referees, prawn sandwiches, inflated ticket prices, average football, being stuck in the gods (Newcastle, Sunderland), filth and sycophantic love ins (Chel***). But still on the bright side you are back where real football belongs, the Championship, matches every other day, more evening games, plenty of well priced tickets, supporters with a bit of knowledge about your team, more welcoming places to have a pre-match pint, better referees, smaller stadiums with better atmospheres, no tourists fans (they won't turn up at Fulham now), and a hell of a lot more fun, oh and you will see your team win a lot more and be much more competitive in a league where you stand a chance of winning. Just hope we screw the play-offs and remain down, can't stand the thought of another season in the 'best league in the world'.

Still all the best for the summer, next season will be much more fun and hopefully the megalomaniac might realise that red isn't so lucky now

Everything you warned and told us about the Premier League was true, but it was great going to some of those grounds.

Did you take a couple of Sherpas to help guide you to the away seating yesterday Annis? Next time you are back down the Bush for some proper football lunch will be on me.

I hope you do stay down as I love our games with you lot at your place

I look forward to lunch and a few pints and good old chat

Always wise words

Great post Stan.

Love a trip to Loftus Road.

Hope to see you next season for a pint

DW, how do you rate your chances v Wigan in the POSF?

Great post Stan.

Love a trip to Loftus Road.

Hope to see you next season for a pint

Sorry, got the QPR fans mixed up!

DW, how do you rate your chances v Wigan in the POSF?

Frankly don't give a monkeys about it. If we get to the final then I will miss it as I books a holiday in Tenerife in the full knowledge that if we got there I would miss it. Two years of the PL and one and a half of Redknapp has totally disenfranchised things for me at the moment. Hopefully we come second and Redknapp does one.

I know relegation isn't great and feel sorry for the lot of you having to put up with the shite that VT has thrown at you during a season when you should have been appreciating the finer points of the Premier League, such as sterile away atmospheres, large amount of tourist fans (Fulham and ManUre), biased referees, prawn sandwiches, inflated ticket prices, average football, being stuck in the gods (Newcastle, Sunderland), filth and sycophantic love ins (Chel***). But still on the bright side you are back where real football belongs, the Championship, matches every other day, more evening games, plenty of well priced tickets, supporters with a bit of knowledge about your team, more welcoming places to have a pre-match pint, better referees, smaller stadiums with better atmospheres, no tourists fans (they won't turn up at Fulham now), and a hell of a lot more fun, oh and you will see your team win a lot more and be much more competitive in a league where you stand a chance of winning. Just hope we screw the play-offs and remain down, can't stand the thought of another season in the 'best league in the world'.

Still all the best for the summer, next season will be much more fun and hopefully the megalomaniac might realise that red isn't so lucky now

The truth is that this relegation doesn't feel half as bad as the 7 or so throughout the past 40 years or missing out on promotion through the playoffs! It should have felt like the worse thing ever, as we have dropped from the top league that we have all spent our lives, dreaming of reaching. I can only put this ambivalence down to the rebrand and in fighting it has caused and the resulting effect being the distancing of our club from our fans. It doesn't hurt like it should, as the club doesn't feel like ours any more. I think this little episode in the Premiership and the rebrand that was a penalty that we paid to getting there,has really brought home to many supporters what is really important to them.

I feel exactly the same

DW, how do you rate your chances v Wigan in the POSF?

Frankly don't give a monkeys about it. If we get to the final then I will miss it as I books a holiday in Tenerife in the full knowledge that if we got there I would miss it. Two years of the PL and one and a half of Redknapp has totally disenfranchised things for me at the moment. Hopefully we come second and Redknapp does one.

Nice to have a sensible opposing fan on the board we are not used to it

Couldn't agree more.

I'd be gutted if we went up. Another 11 players required, more fortunes needing to be spent in top of our humongous debt & playing in a league where you're lucky to win 10 games in a season. That's no fun for me.

Before anyone says it's lack of belief or whatever no it's common sense. I go to football to see pals, have a booze, see some goals & hopefully win. Makes absolutely no difference to me if we're playing Manchester City or Chesterfield! It's the whole atmosphere of the day out I look forward to, the football usually spoils it!!

Wise words and top post DW,

Good to see u back and Stan, I'm gutted but reading what u said made me realise that I won't miss the prem that much,

Roll on August

Wise words and top post DW,

Good to see u back and Stan, I'm gutted but reading what u said made me realise that I won't miss the prem that much,

Roll on August

Good to be back Luton. You won't miss the Prem. It is a financial stitch up and FFP will make it worse. Stan you are spot on about the reason for going to football, and may I add to that, watching the game start at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon. Sadly the Championship is scarred by 12.15pm kick offs for the unlucky ones on a Saturday lunchtime but generally much more fun. Went to Barnsley yesterday with a couple of mates, parked at a local Working Men's Club for £1.50, popped in for a couple of beers at £2.22 a pint and then walked to the ground chatting and joking with the locals and after back to the car doing the same. Similar at places like 'Boro, Wigan, Blackpool, Bournemouth, Yeovil etc, had some great days out, which can only be counted on the fingers of one hand in two seasons in the Prem, (although beating the filth at the Bridge still gives a very warm feeling, especially the piss taking down the Kings Road afterwards). Football is still pretty much for the average Joe in the Championship.

Just to make sure that if there is anybody who still feels low about relegation this is what I posted last August about what to expect in the Prema and what you won't miss!

Haven't posted on here for nearly a year and frankly after travelling round the country watching the heap of shite that Mark Hughesless piled us with last season, missing one game, to be honest I almost gave up on football in its entirety. So it thought I would give you the heads up on what to expect from the 'greatest league in the world', if you yourselves have not yet been disenfranchised by your own commercial re-branding. Firstly the most important thing in football now is not winning it is money. The money you make the more it seems that your club is a success, doesn't matter where you end up. No doubt the cost of watching Cardiff has increased. For those of you who travel to away games be prepared to be fleeced at some amazing prices. highest last year was Chel*** away at £52. Average cost must have been about £42-43 which included Wigan at £20, who you won't play because they have also managed to escape. Matchday scarves are a must. I bet you cannot wait to buy your Cardiff/Swansea red and white Matchday scarf! What the f..........? Tourists everywhere. You go to Old Trafford and you fight your way through 30,000 Japanese taking photos of every bloody thing going. 'Cardiff' supporters who suddenly want tickets because ManUre are in town. being gobbed on by chavvy Scousers sitting in the tier above you. Going to places like the Emirates or Stamford Bridge and watching the home supporters sit quietly and applaud the grass growing. Watching your team get mullered more often than not.

Yes some away games are decent. Everton. Great old ground and decent supporters. Spuds, again great old ground and decent support. West Brom, if you find the pub called the Vine, you are in for a treat. Sunderland, shit ground, you are halfway to the gods, but a superb, buffet Chinese in the middle of the town. At Newcastle, take oxygen masks, a Sherpa and your telescope. And if it is in the middle of winter, your duvet. Mercenary footballers, we cornered the market in them last season, none more so than Jose Bosingwa. You will get the odd one.

And before you accuse me of being bitter, those who remember my old posts will know that I am balanced in my views and I knew that watching PL football was not going to be as much fun as watching the Championship. Indeed when we got promoted I said I would never gloat as the following season it was just as likely that we would be swapping places with you guys. Almost right, just a season out. Try to enjoy it and don't take it seriously. It is never going to be a sporting competition, Cardiff with a host of other clubs will become cannon fodder for the top five. It really is a shame. At the start of last season people would ask me how I hoped QPR would do. My answer as with the previous season, was that I didn't give a monkeys as long as we beat Chel***. We did it twice so I was happy

In our instance we beat the filth, and at least you beat Swansea. So the season wasn't exactly a waste of time and I do hope that at least some of you found the Vine at West Brom. After a year back in the Championship, this is still the best football pub I have found.

Rushing home from the bus from college to get ready for a midweek game, missed that.

Just to make sure that if there is anybody who still feels low about relegation this is what I posted last August about what to expect in the Prema and what you won't miss!

Haven't posted on here for nearly a year and frankly after travelling round the country watching the heap of shite that Mark Hughesless piled us with last season, missing one game, to be honest I almost gave up on football in its entirety. So it thought I would give you the heads up on what to expect from the 'greatest league in the world', if you yourselves have not yet been disenfranchised by your own commercial re-branding. Firstly the most important thing in football now is not winning it is money. The money you make the more it seems that your club is a success, doesn't matter where you end up. No doubt the cost of watching Cardiff has increased. For those of you who travel to away games be prepared to be fleeced at some amazing prices. highest last year was Chel*** away at £52. Average cost must have been about £42-43 which included Wigan at £20, who you won't play because they have also managed to escape. Matchday scarves are a must. I bet you cannot wait to buy your Cardiff/Swansea red and white Matchday scarf! What the f..........? Tourists everywhere. You go to Old Trafford and you fight your way through 30,000 Japanese taking photos of every bloody thing going. 'Cardiff' supporters who suddenly want tickets because ManUre are in town. being gobbed on by chavvy Scousers sitting in the tier above you. Going to places like the Emirates or Stamford Bridge and watching the home supporters sit quietly and applaud the grass growing. Watching your team get mullered more often than not.

Yes some away games are decent. Everton. Great old ground and decent supporters. Spuds, again great old ground and decent support. West Brom, if you find the pub called the Vine, you are in for a treat. Sunderland, shit ground, you are halfway to the gods, but a superb, buffet Chinese in the middle of the town. At Newcastle, take oxygen masks, a Sherpa and your telescope. And if it is in the middle of winter, your duvet. Mercenary footballers, we cornered the market in them last season, none more so than Jose Bosingwa. You will get the odd one.

And before you accuse me of being bitter, those who remember my old posts will know that I am balanced in my views and I knew that watching PL football was not going to be as much fun as watching the Championship. Indeed when we got promoted I said I would never gloat as the following season it was just as likely that we would be swapping places with you guys. Almost right, just a season out. Try to enjoy it and don't take it seriously. It is never going to be a sporting competition, Cardiff with a host of other clubs will become cannon fodder for the top five. It really is a shame. At the start of last season people would ask me how I hoped QPR would do. My answer as with the previous season, was that I didn't give a monkeys as long as we beat Chel***. We did it twice so I was happy

In our instance we beat the filth, and at least you beat Swansea. So the season wasn't exactly a waste of time and I do hope that at least some of you found the Vine at West Brom. After a year back in the Championship, this is still the best football pub I have found.

You're full of shite Stan and i'll never forget your anti Swansea bullshit and constant rimming of Cardiffians on here.You went very quiet after we beat you 9-0 on aggregate over 2 games

Waited 30 years experience the premiership,but hated every minute if it,a lot of fans will say its only because we ve gone down but some of the decision that have gone against us were shocking,the Sunderland game being a perfect example,even though they say by law the ref was right,but would he have given that penalty if it was one of the bigger sides?,I doubt it very much

Don't be so ridiculous!!

How can you make such a baseless, unfounded accusation against our totally fair, unbiased and objective referees?! You, sir/madam, should be utterly ashamed of yourself!!

Didn't you see that ref give the stone wall, blatant, laughably clear penalty for relegation struggling norwich against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge?.... Oh wait a minute.

Well at least they disallowed Newcastle's second, and offside, goal against soon to be relegated Cardiff? oh.

Some say it is human nature to swing in favour of the bigger names. I have another word, it rhymes with 'heating'

To the OP - thank you for your very warm words of welcome Look forward to it!

Just to make sure that if there is anybody who still feels low about relegation this is what I posted last August about what to expect in the Prema and what you won't miss!

Haven't posted on here for nearly a year and frankly after travelling round the country watching the heap of shite that Mark Hughesless piled us with last season, missing one game, to be honest I almost gave up on football in its entirety. So it thought I would give you the heads up on what to expect from the 'greatest league in the world', if you yourselves have not yet been disenfranchised by your own commercial re-branding. Firstly the most important thing in football now is not winning it is money. The money you make the more it seems that your club is a success, doesn't matter where you end up. No doubt the cost of watching Cardiff has increased. For those of you who travel to away games be prepared to be fleeced at some amazing prices. highest last year was Chel*** away at £52. Average cost must have been about £42-43 which included Wigan at £20, who you won't play because they have also managed to escape. Matchday scarves are a must. I bet you cannot wait to buy your Cardiff/Swansea red and white Matchday scarf! What the f..........? Tourists everywhere. You go to Old Trafford and you fight your way through 30,000 Japanese taking photos of every bloody thing going. 'Cardiff' supporters who suddenly want tickets because ManUre are in town. being gobbed on by chavvy Scousers sitting in the tier above you. Going to places like the Emirates or Stamford Bridge and watching the home supporters sit quietly and applaud the grass growing. Watching your team get mullered more often than not.

Yes some away games are decent. Everton. Great old ground and decent supporters. Spuds, again great old ground and decent support. West Brom, if you find the pub called the Vine, you are in for a treat. Sunderland, shit ground, you are halfway to the gods, but a superb, buffet Chinese in the middle of the town. At Newcastle, take oxygen masks, a Sherpa and your telescope. And if it is in the middle of winter, your duvet. Mercenary footballers, we cornered the market in them last season, none more so than Jose Bosingwa. You will get the odd one.

And before you accuse me of being bitter, those who remember my old posts will know that I am balanced in my views and I knew that watching PL football was not going to be as much fun as watching the Championship. Indeed when we got promoted I said I would never gloat as the following season it was just as likely that we would be swapping places with you guys. Almost right, just a season out. Try to enjoy it and don't take it seriously. It is never going to be a sporting competition, Cardiff with a host of other clubs will become cannon fodder for the top five. It really is a shame. At the start of last season people would ask me how I hoped QPR would do. My answer as with the previous season, was that I didn't give a monkeys as long as we beat Chel***. We did it twice so I was happy

In our instance we beat the filth, and at least you beat Swansea. So the season wasn't exactly a waste of time and I do hope that at least some of you found the Vine at West Brom. After a year back in the Championship, this is still the best football pub I have found.

You're full of shite Stan and i'll never forget your anti Swansea bullshit and constant rimming of Cardiffians on here.You went very quiet after we beat you 9-0 on aggregate over 2 games

You Jack tw*t, for a start I am not Stan, it is DWQPR, as in D W Q P R and not S t a n! Now the aggregate score was 9-1. Nothing to boast about that score, but every dog has its day and yours will fe sooner rather than later. Harry Monk will send you down next year and eventually you'll all crawl back to th gutter as your lot resume your rightly place in League Two. As far as the Cardiff fans on here, a lot more classy than a bellend like you, and this was exemplified during the Faurlingate affair in our promotion season almost to a man they supported us in escaping with no point deduction whereas you bunch of desperate glory hunting wankers were all for trying anyway you could to guarantee promotion. and despite the current issues surrounding Cardiff City, well at least they have history, you just have a dogshit of a town that is no more than a service station on the rump end of the M4. Now jog on.

Just to make sure that if there is anybody who still feels low about relegation this is what I posted last August about what to expect in the Prema and what you won't miss!

Haven't posted on here for nearly a year and frankly after travelling round the country watching the heap of shite that Mark Hughesless piled us with last season, missing one game, to be honest I almost gave up on football in its entirety. So it thought I would give you the heads up on what to expect from the 'greatest league in the world', if you yourselves have not yet been disenfranchised by your own commercial re-branding. Firstly the most important thing in football now is not winning it is money. The money you make the more it seems that your club is a success, doesn't matter where you end up. No doubt the cost of watching Cardiff has increased. For those of you who travel to away games be prepared to be fleeced at some amazing prices. highest last year was Chel*** away at £52. Average cost must have been about £42-43 which included Wigan at £20, who you won't play because they have also managed to escape. Matchday scarves are a must. I bet you cannot wait to buy your Cardiff/Swansea red and white Matchday scarf! What the f..........? Tourists everywhere. You go to Old Trafford and you fight your way through 30,000 Japanese taking photos of every bloody thing going. 'Cardiff' supporters who suddenly want tickets because ManUre are in town. being gobbed on by chavvy Scousers sitting in the tier above you. Going to places like the Emirates or Stamford Bridge and watching the home supporters sit quietly and applaud the grass growing. Watching your team get mullered more often than not.

Yes some away games are decent. Everton. Great old ground and decent supporters. Spuds, again great old ground and decent support. West Brom, if you find the pub called the Vine, you are in for a treat. Sunderland, shit ground, you are halfway to the gods, but a superb, buffet Chinese in the middle of the town. At Newcastle, take oxygen masks, a Sherpa and your telescope. And if it is in the middle of winter, your duvet. Mercenary footballers, we cornered the market in them last season, none more so than Jose Bosingwa. You will get the odd one.

And before you accuse me of being bitter, those who remember my old posts will know that I am balanced in my views and I knew that watching PL football was not going to be as much fun as watching the Championship. Indeed when we got promoted I said I would never gloat as the following season it was just as likely that we would be swapping places with you guys. Almost right, just a season out. Try to enjoy it and don't take it seriously. It is never going to be a sporting competition, Cardiff with a host of other clubs will become cannon fodder for the top five. It really is a shame. At the start of last season people would ask me how I hoped QPR would do. My answer as with the previous season, was that I didn't give a monkeys as long as we beat Chel***. We did it twice so I was happy

In our instance we beat the filth, and at least you beat Swansea. So the season wasn't exactly a waste of time and I do hope that at least some of you found the Vine at West Brom. After a year back in the Championship, this is still the best football pub I have found.

You're full of shite Stan and i'll never forget your anti Swansea bullshit and constant rimming of Cardiffians on here.You went very quiet after we beat you 9-0 on aggregate over 2 games

You Jack tw*t, for a start I am not Stan, it is DWQPR, as in D W Q P R and not S t a n! Now the aggregate score was 9-1. Nothing to boast about that score, but every dog has its day and yours will fe sooner rather than later. Harry Monk will send you down next year and eventually you'll all crawl back to th gutter as your lot resume your rightly place in League Two. As far as the Cardiff fans on here, a lot more classy than a bellend like you, and this was exemplified during the Faurlingate affair in our promotion season almost to a man they supported us in escaping with no point deduction whereas you bunch of desperate glory hunting wankers were all for trying anyway you could to guarantee promotion. and despite the current issues surrounding Cardiff City, well at least they have history, you just have a dogshit of a town that is no more than a service station on the rump end of the M4. Now jog on.

Never a truer word said about the Premiership experience and indeed about our little six fingered brothers down West. I thought initially that your original post was just the result of a poor season, relegation and therefore subsequent bitterness, however, having sampled the Premiership for myself, you are spot on with everything you say. Unfortunately we have and are, all falling for the big con, that more money spent, by either owners or supporters equals more enjoyment, when in fact all it's doing is making a minority of players hugely wealthy, making TV conglomerates hugely wealthy, giving owners, mostly foreign now an avenue to boost revenue or their egos.
I also agree that The Vine, up at WBA has got to be the best away pub in the land.