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THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Thu May 01, 2014 7:59 am

The blame game is now in full swing, who's at fault? Tan? Malky? Oli, Players, Moody? Well in some part all of them and even US!
OK as I see it. we were destined for the drop the moment we got promoted.
Everyone was on the crest of the wave and nobody could see the wood from the trees. We came up without too much hassle due to the fact that no other club realistically challenged us, in fact the stats show that we were effectively promoted in the first week of April. We ( we being the club, management and us ) all thought we had a good squad. I remember Malky stating on MoM that we only needed 4 or 5 players. The truth was that there were holes all over the team by premier league standards.
The Summer transfer window was an absolute disaster, players coming in were big money and we all thought here we go its going to be a breeze in the Premier League.
Cornilious - £9M for absolutely ZERO
Brayford - £2M again absolutely ZERO
Odemwingie - £2m could not hit a barn door with a bag of peas
French Kev - £2.5M could not make a bingo card
Medel - £9M - over priced and has deteriated as the season has gone on
Cauker - £9M the only relative successful purchase

all of this coupled with the fact that key players were hardly used, Noone, Hudson and indeed Mason

Our tactics if I can in deed call them that, were to park two wonky busses in front of our goal and try to pinch something from a corner this was quickly worked out be other teams. So far the finger is pointing at Malky and Moody., but Tan has had a hand in this. When he discovered the nonsense of the transfers Malky & Moody should have been dismissed in October so Tan's methods of dispatching of Malky was counter productive and badly timed.

OK cue, appointing Oli, this was not the appointment needed, as we have seen a manager in the mode of Pulis, Bruce was needed with a knowledge of the premier league, again the January transfer window saw quantity rather than quality brought in (with the exception of Dahli).

At the end of the story
Our defence is the worse in the county, it has made Marshy look the best keeper in the country, a midfield which does not know a killer ball from a killer whale and a strike force which could not hit a hole through a wet paper bag, and coupled with the fact that we have a tinkerman as a manager, and a raving launatic of an owner and a bunce of fans who think they are bigger than they actually are.
WE WERE ALWAYS GOING TO END UP THERE WE BELONG BOTTOM!

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Thu May 01, 2014 8:12 am

Sorry but that is just blaming absolutely everything on mackay and saying solksjaer maybe shouldn't have been hired.

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Thu May 01, 2014 8:56 am

Carnt agree with Cauker, sorry but he is an average defender who would only be a squad back up player in most top half premiership teams. Hence the fact he is well down the pecking order in the England set up. As a captain he is as motivational as a pile of dog shite and his only contribution has been a few goals. Oh, and he talks a good story in the Echo then shoots himself in the foot the minute he walks on the pitch!!!

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Thu May 01, 2014 9:40 am

If only one signing worked out then our Championship squad must have been a superbly put together team to get us where we are now....a win away from being out of the bottom three.

Either that or Malky & Ole are tactical geniuses to get what they have out of the team.

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Thu May 01, 2014 9:46 am

Another awful blame game post. Like has been said in countless other threads. No one person is to blame. Dozens of people from owners to managers to players got us in this situation. Picking out a single person or one or two people is just showing a blatant ulterior motive.

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Thu May 01, 2014 3:25 pm

I think the reason we are where we are is that the other teams are better than us.

Do i win a prize?

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Thu May 01, 2014 3:35 pm

griff105 wrote:I think the reason we are where we are is that the other teams are better than us.

Do i win a prize?


Or we are worse than other teams :D , i will share the prize :lol: :lol:

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Thu May 01, 2014 3:43 pm

Got to say that saying caulker as a average player is so far off the mark.
He is a young player who was thrown in to a side that sat back and let teams attack.
Add to that he has players who are far from premier level around him.
The guy is still young and learning his trade and should not have been or expected to be the player to hold the team together.
He is and will be a top player if used the right way.
At swansea he was outstanding as he had a top player with years off experience in williams next to him guiding him.
At yours he had no one to turn to .
Caulker is a good player but to young to be expected to carry a team with little quality and experience at this level.

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Thu May 01, 2014 4:05 pm

If in doubt blame Malky.

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Thu May 01, 2014 4:50 pm

So all you've really done is blame Malky? What is it with people blaming him for most of our problems this season?

The only disaster signing i think he made was Cornelius although this could of been different if he didn't have such big problems with injuries. Odemwinge did not play up to the part, he just never seemed to find form and i think on this occasion you have to put it down to one of those that just didn't work out for the player and club and no blame should be attached to anyone for that signing. The signing of Bradford seems bizarre but could still yet work out.

As for the other signings, you and many others seem to forget that Medel was instrumental in many games at the beginning of the season and looked like a great signing with pundits praising him everywhere. His form has dipped since the new year and its no coincidence that this is after MM had gone. I think that KTC has been the same and it doesn't help that he has been in and out of the side recently. As for Caulker, what a great signing, a young player with massive potential and has been outstanding IMO and has chipped in with some vital goals as well. No surprise that we could be selling him for £6m more than we bought him for just a year after signing yet you play him down to be a 'relative success'...?

So rather than blaming mainly MM i think you should also look more at what tan has done and the poor management of Ole even though i do think it has been a hard job for him to come into.

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Thu May 01, 2014 6:51 pm

Pontyclun Blue wrote:
griff105 wrote:I think the reason we are where we are is that the other teams are better than us.

Do i win a prize?


Or we are worse than other teams :D , i will share the prize :lol: :lol:


Good point well made! :lol:

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Thu May 01, 2014 6:56 pm

CCFCBluebirds wrote:So all you've really done is blame Malky? What is it with people blaming him for most of our problems this season?

The only disaster signing i think he made was Cornelius although this could of been different if he didn't have such big problems with injuries. Odemwinge did not play up to the part, he just never seemed to find form and i think on this occasion you have to put it down to one of those that just didn't work out for the player and club and no blame should be attached to anyone for that signing. The signing of Bradford seems bizarre but could still yet work out.

As for the other signings, you and many others seem to forget that Medel was instrumental in many games at the beginning of the season and looked like a great signing with pundits praising him everywhere. His form has dipped since the new year and its no coincidence that this is after MM had gone. I think that KTC has been the same and it doesn't help that he has been in and out of the side recently. As for Caulker, what a great signing, a young player with massive potential and has been outstanding IMO and has chipped in with some vital goals as well. No surprise that we could be selling him for £6m more than we bought him for just a year after signing yet you play him down to be a 'relative success'...?

So rather than blaming mainly MM i think you should also look more at what tan has done and the poor management of Ole even though i do think it has been a hard job for him to come into.




:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: at the bolded bit in particular. The rest of the post is fairly terrible as well. But another new account with the same opinion, what a surprise.

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Thu May 01, 2014 7:39 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:So all you've really done is blame Malky? What is it with people blaming him for most of our problems this season?

The only disaster signing i think he made was Cornelius although this could of been different if he didn't have such big problems with injuries. Odemwinge did not play up to the part, he just never seemed to find form and i think on this occasion you have to put it down to one of those that just didn't work out for the player and club and no blame should be attached to anyone for that signing. The signing of Bradford seems bizarre but could still yet work out.

As for the other signings, you and many others seem to forget that Medel was instrumental in many games at the beginning of the season and looked like a great signing with pundits praising him everywhere. His form has dipped since the new year and its no coincidence that this is after MM had gone. I think that KTC has been the same and it doesn't help that he has been in and out of the side recently. As for Caulker, what a great signing, a young player with massive potential and has been outstanding IMO and has chipped in with some vital goals as well. No surprise that we could be selling him for £6m more than we bought him for just a year after signing yet you play him down to be a 'relative success'...?

So rather than blaming mainly MM i think you should also look more at what tan has done and the poor management of Ole even though i do think it has been a hard job for him to come into.




:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: at the bolded bit in particular. The rest of the post is fairly terrible as well. But another new account with the same opinion, what a surprise.


What so you think that every signing was poor then? Get a grip, poor signings were made but its ridiculous how fans like you make out that all of them were terrible.

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Thu May 01, 2014 8:44 pm

CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:So all you've really done is blame Malky? What is it with people blaming him for most of our problems this season?

The only disaster signing i think he made was Cornelius although this could of been different if he didn't have such big problems with injuries. Odemwinge did not play up to the part, he just never seemed to find form and i think on this occasion you have to put it down to one of those that just didn't work out for the player and club and no blame should be attached to anyone for that signing. The signing of Bradford seems bizarre but could still yet work out.

As for the other signings, you and many others seem to forget that Medel was instrumental in many games at the beginning of the season and looked like a great signing with pundits praising him everywhere. His form has dipped since the new year and its no coincidence that this is after MM had gone. I think that KTC has been the same and it doesn't help that he has been in and out of the side recently. As for Caulker, what a great signing, a young player with massive potential and has been outstanding IMO and has chipped in with some vital goals as well. No surprise that we could be selling him for £6m more than we bought him for just a year after signing yet you play him down to be a 'relative success'...?

So rather than blaming mainly MM i think you should also look more at what tan has done and the poor management of Ole even though i do think it has been a hard job for him to come into.




:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: at the bolded bit in particular. The rest of the post is fairly terrible as well. But another new account with the same opinion, what a surprise.


What so you think that every signing was poor then? Get a grip, poor signings were made but its ridiculous how fans like you make out that all of them were terrible.



Only Dhaeli has shown promise. All of them (bar Eikrem, Berget, Brayford, Moore and Maxi (who were both signed for the future yet Maxi doesn't even play for DVP) have been average or incredibly poor.

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Thu May 01, 2014 8:58 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:So all you've really done is blame Malky? What is it with people blaming him for most of our problems this season?

The only disaster signing i think he made was Cornelius although this could of been different if he didn't have such big problems with injuries. Odemwinge did not play up to the part, he just never seemed to find form and i think on this occasion you have to put it down to one of those that just didn't work out for the player and club and no blame should be attached to anyone for that signing. The signing of Bradford seems bizarre but could still yet work out.

As for the other signings, you and many others seem to forget that Medel was instrumental in many games at the beginning of the season and looked like a great signing with pundits praising him everywhere. His form has dipped since the new year and its no coincidence that this is after MM had gone. I think that KTC has been the same and it doesn't help that he has been in and out of the side recently. As for Caulker, what a great signing, a young player with massive potential and has been outstanding IMO and has chipped in with some vital goals as well. No surprise that we could be selling him for £6m more than we bought him for just a year after signing yet you play him down to be a 'relative success'...?

So rather than blaming mainly MM i think you should also look more at what tan has done and the poor management of Ole even though i do think it has been a hard job for him to come into.




:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: at the bolded bit in particular. The rest of the post is fairly terrible as well. But another new account with the same opinion, what a surprise.


What so you think that every signing was poor then? Get a grip, poor signings were made but its ridiculous how fans like you make out that all of them were terrible.



Only Dhaeli has shown promise. All of them (bar Eikrem, Berget, Brayford, Moore and Maxi (who were both signed for the future yet Maxi doesn't even play for DVP) have been average or incredibly poor.


Yes, over the whole season a lot of signings have been average but the point i was making is that before mackay left, these now 'average' players were playing well which shows they obviously don't fit into an attacking system as they were bought for MM's defensive system. So can MM be the man blamed for that?

Agree that Deahli has been excellent and show great potential but are you really saying no other signing has been good? What about Caulker?

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Thu May 01, 2014 9:10 pm

CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:So all you've really done is blame Malky? What is it with people blaming him for most of our problems this season?

The only disaster signing i think he made was Cornelius although this could of been different if he didn't have such big problems with injuries. Odemwinge did not play up to the part, he just never seemed to find form and i think on this occasion you have to put it down to one of those that just didn't work out for the player and club and no blame should be attached to anyone for that signing. The signing of Bradford seems bizarre but could still yet work out.

As for the other signings, you and many others seem to forget that Medel was instrumental in many games at the beginning of the season and looked like a great signing with pundits praising him everywhere. His form has dipped since the new year and its no coincidence that this is after MM had gone. I think that KTC has been the same and it doesn't help that he has been in and out of the side recently. As for Caulker, what a great signing, a young player with massive potential and has been outstanding IMO and has chipped in with some vital goals as well. No surprise that we could be selling him for £6m more than we bought him for just a year after signing yet you play him down to be a 'relative success'...?

So rather than blaming mainly MM i think you should also look more at what tan has done and the poor management of Ole even though i do think it has been a hard job for him to come into.




:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: at the bolded bit in particular. The rest of the post is fairly terrible as well. But another new account with the same opinion, what a surprise.


What so you think that every signing was poor then? Get a grip, poor signings were made but its ridiculous how fans like you make out that all of them were terrible.



Only Dhaeli has shown promise. All of them (bar Eikrem, Berget, Brayford, Moore and Maxi (who were both signed for the future yet Maxi doesn't even play for DVP) have been average or incredibly poor.


Yes, over the whole season a lot of signings have been average but the point i was making is that before mackay left, these now 'average' players were playing well which shows they obviously don't fit into an attacking system as they were bought for MM's defensive system. So can MM be the man blamed for that?

Agree that Deahli has been excellent and show great potential but are you really saying no other signing has been good? What about Caulker?



Caulker has been very average, he is incredibly overrated because he is young & English. He has been better than all of our signings bar Dhaeli (it isn't saying much) but still has cost us goals and is an awful leader.


Also none of Malky's signings performed when he was here. Medel still ran out of steam in November, KTC still carried on being skinned, Caulker was average and Odemwingie was useless.

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Thu May 01, 2014 9:20 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:So all you've really done is blame Malky? What is it with people blaming him for most of our problems this season?

The only disaster signing i think he made was Cornelius although this could of been different if he didn't have such big problems with injuries. Odemwinge did not play up to the part, he just never seemed to find form and i think on this occasion you have to put it down to one of those that just didn't work out for the player and club and no blame should be attached to anyone for that signing. The signing of Bradford seems bizarre but could still yet work out.

As for the other signings, you and many others seem to forget that Medel was instrumental in many games at the beginning of the season and looked like a great signing with pundits praising him everywhere. His form has dipped since the new year and its no coincidence that this is after MM had gone. I think that KTC has been the same and it doesn't help that he has been in and out of the side recently. As for Caulker, what a great signing, a young player with massive potential and has been outstanding IMO and has chipped in with some vital goals as well. No surprise that we could be selling him for £6m more than we bought him for just a year after signing yet you play him down to be a 'relative success'...?

So rather than blaming mainly MM i think you should also look more at what tan has done and the poor management of Ole even though i do think it has been a hard job for him to come into.




:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: at the bolded bit in particular. The rest of the post is fairly terrible as well. But another new account with the same opinion, what a surprise.


What so you think that every signing was poor then? Get a grip, poor signings were made but its ridiculous how fans like you make out that all of them were terrible.



Only Dhaeli has shown promise. All of them (bar Eikrem, Berget, Brayford, Moore and Maxi (who were both signed for the future yet Maxi doesn't even play for DVP) have been average or incredibly poor.


Yes, over the whole season a lot of signings have been average but the point i was making is that before mackay left, these now 'average' players were playing well which shows they obviously don't fit into an attacking system as they were bought for MM's defensive system. So can MM be the man blamed for that?

Agree that Deahli has been excellent and show great potential but are you really saying no other signing has been good? What about Caulker?



Caulker has been very average, he is incredibly overrated because he is young & English. He has been better than all of our signings bar Dhaeli (it isn't saying much) but still has cost us goals and is an awful leader.


Also none of Malky's signings performed when he was here. Medel still ran out of steam in November, KTC still carried on being skinned, Caulker was average and Odemwingie was useless.


Cant remember any goals being conceded because of Caulker? And with MM being a leader himself as a player i doubt he would of picked an 'awful' leader.

Medel out of steam in November? This was his best month, it was the month he pulled the strings against Swansea and was vital against United (especially a great link up with Mutch for Campbell's goal) as well as marking Rooney out of the game for Chile against England. KTC also had his best game in that month against Swansea. So yes they did perform and Medel was not running out of steam...

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Thu May 01, 2014 10:33 pm

CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:So all you've really done is blame Malky? What is it with people blaming him for most of our problems this season?

The only disaster signing i think he made was Cornelius although this could of been different if he didn't have such big problems with injuries. Odemwinge did not play up to the part, he just never seemed to find form and i think on this occasion you have to put it down to one of those that just didn't work out for the player and club and no blame should be attached to anyone for that signing. The signing of Bradford seems bizarre but could still yet work out.

As for the other signings, you and many others seem to forget that Medel was instrumental in many games at the beginning of the season and looked like a great signing with pundits praising him everywhere. His form has dipped since the new year and its no coincidence that this is after MM had gone. I think that KTC has been the same and it doesn't help that he has been in and out of the side recently. As for Caulker, what a great signing, a young player with massive potential and has been outstanding IMO and has chipped in with some vital goals as well. No surprise that we could be selling him for £6m more than we bought him for just a year after signing yet you play him down to be a 'relative success'...?

So rather than blaming mainly MM i think you should also look more at what tan has done and the poor management of Ole even though i do think it has been a hard job for him to come into.




:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: at the bolded bit in particular. The rest of the post is fairly terrible as well. But another new account with the same opinion, what a surprise.


What so you think that every signing was poor then? Get a grip, poor signings were made but its ridiculous how fans like you make out that all of them were terrible.



Only Dhaeli has shown promise. All of them (bar Eikrem, Berget, Brayford, Moore and Maxi (who were both signed for the future yet Maxi doesn't even play for DVP) have been average or incredibly poor.


Yes, over the whole season a lot of signings have been average but the point i was making is that before mackay left, these now 'average' players were playing well which shows they obviously don't fit into an attacking system as they were bought for MM's defensive system. So can MM be the man blamed for that?

Agree that Deahli has been excellent and show great potential but are you really saying no other signing has been good? What about Caulker?



Caulker has been very average, he is incredibly overrated because he is young & English. He has been better than all of our signings bar Dhaeli (it isn't saying much) but still has cost us goals and is an awful leader.


Also none of Malky's signings performed when he was here. Medel still ran out of steam in November, KTC still carried on being skinned, Caulker was average and Odemwingie was useless.


Cant remember any goals being conceded because of Caulker? And with MM being a leader himself as a player i doubt he would of picked an 'awful' leader.

Medel out of steam in November? This was his best month, it was the month he pulled the strings against Swansea and was vital against United (especially a great link up with Mutch for Campbell's goal) as well as marking Rooney out of the game for Chile against England. KTC also had his best game in that month against Swansea. So yes they did perform and Medel was not running out of steam...


Of course Caulker has been responsible for some of our goals. We've conceded 69 this season, are you telling me Caulker is not at fault for some of them? :laughing5: So what? Caulker is far too young and raw to be captaining a newly promoted side. Ole was a decent striker yet signed Kenwyne Jones.

Medel did nothing in that goal, it was Whitts to Mutch to Campbell. I don't care what he does for Chile, we are Cardiff. He played well against Swansea and that was his SECOND good game he has ever had for us, the other being against City. 11m, 9m whatever, you expect better from this guy who had a huge reputation.

You do realise we played 3 matches in November after Swansea, right?

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Thu May 01, 2014 10:38 pm

ProBlueAlways wrote:If in doubt blame Malky.


or close your eyes cover your ears and shout repeatedly LALALALALALALALALALALA while pretending Bart Simpson signed all these players while Tan held Malky captive.

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Thu May 01, 2014 11:15 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:So all you've really done is blame Malky? What is it with people blaming him for most of our problems this season?

The only disaster signing i think he made was Cornelius although this could of been different if he didn't have such big problems with injuries. Odemwinge did not play up to the part, he just never seemed to find form and i think on this occasion you have to put it down to one of those that just didn't work out for the player and club and no blame should be attached to anyone for that signing. The signing of Bradford seems bizarre but could still yet work out.

As for the other signings, you and many others seem to forget that Medel was instrumental in many games at the beginning of the season and looked like a great signing with pundits praising him everywhere. His form has dipped since the new year and its no coincidence that this is after MM had gone. I think that KTC has been the same and it doesn't help that he has been in and out of the side recently. As for Caulker, what a great signing, a young player with massive potential and has been outstanding IMO and has chipped in with some vital goals as well. No surprise that we could be selling him for £6m more than we bought him for just a year after signing yet you play him down to be a 'relative success'...?

So rather than blaming mainly MM i think you should also look more at what tan has done and the poor management of Ole even though i do think it has been a hard job for him to come into.




:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: at the bolded bit in particular. The rest of the post is fairly terrible as well. But another new account with the same opinion, what a surprise.


What so you think that every signing was poor then? Get a grip, poor signings were made but its ridiculous how fans like you make out that all of them were terrible.



Only Dhaeli has shown promise. All of them (bar Eikrem, Berget, Brayford, Moore and Maxi (who were both signed for the future yet Maxi doesn't even play for DVP) have been average or incredibly poor.


Yes, over the whole season a lot of signings have been average but the point i was making is that before mackay left, these now 'average' players were playing well which shows they obviously don't fit into an attacking system as they were bought for MM's defensive system. So can MM be the man blamed for that?

Agree that Deahli has been excellent and show great potential but are you really saying no other signing has been good? What about Caulker?



Caulker has been very average, he is incredibly overrated because he is young & English. He has been better than all of our signings bar Dhaeli (it isn't saying much) but still has cost us goals and is an awful leader.


Also none of Malky's signings performed when he was here. Medel still ran out of steam in November, KTC still carried on being skinned, Caulker was average and Odemwingie was useless.


Cant remember any goals being conceded because of Caulker? And with MM being a leader himself as a player i doubt he would of picked an 'awful' leader.

Medel out of steam in November? This was his best month, it was the month he pulled the strings against Swansea and was vital against United (especially a great link up with Mutch for Campbell's goal) as well as marking Rooney out of the game for Chile against England. KTC also had his best game in that month against Swansea. So yes they did perform and Medel was not running out of steam...


Of course Caulker has been responsible for some of our goals. We've conceded 69 this season, are you telling me Caulker is not at fault for some of them? :laughing5: So what? Caulker is far too young and raw to be captaining a newly promoted side. Ole was a decent striker yet signed Kenwyne Jones.

Medel did nothing in that goal, it was Whitts to Mutch to Campbell. I don't care what he does for Chile, we are Cardiff. He played well against Swansea and that was his SECOND good game he has ever had for us, the other being against City. 11m, 9m whatever, you expect better from this guy who had a huge reputation.

You do realise we played 3 matches in November after Swansea, right?


Caulker is responsible for every goal conceded as a defender but he has never been personally responsible by making a mistake that has led to a goal. Caulker has acted like a leader in the way that he has played and spoken so what has made you believe he isn't a good leader?

My mistake :notworthy: it was Whittingham, however that does not take away the fact he had a good game making crucial tackles and completing over 90% of his passes as was so common for him back then. As for his price, would agree maybe a bit inflated but aren't all football transfers? KTC only had 2 good games? Give it a rest he has only had defensive flaws since the turn of the year and i believe that is because he has been in and out of the side.

And yes, we did have 3 more games including that great draw against united. Well done Malky :ayatollah:

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Fri May 02, 2014 12:22 am

CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:So all you've really done is blame Malky? What is it with people blaming him for most of our problems this season?

The only disaster signing i think he made was Cornelius although this could of been different if he didn't have such big problems with injuries. Odemwinge did not play up to the part, he just never seemed to find form and i think on this occasion you have to put it down to one of those that just didn't work out for the player and club and no blame should be attached to anyone for that signing. The signing of Bradford seems bizarre but could still yet work out.

As for the other signings, you and many others seem to forget that Medel was instrumental in many games at the beginning of the season and looked like a great signing with pundits praising him everywhere. His form has dipped since the new year and its no coincidence that this is after MM had gone. I think that KTC has been the same and it doesn't help that he has been in and out of the side recently. As for Caulker, what a great signing, a young player with massive potential and has been outstanding IMO and has chipped in with some vital goals as well. No surprise that we could be selling him for £6m more than we bought him for just a year after signing yet you play him down to be a 'relative success'...?

So rather than blaming mainly MM i think you should also look more at what tan has done and the poor management of Ole even though i do think it has been a hard job for him to come into.




:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: at the bolded bit in particular. The rest of the post is fairly terrible as well. But another new account with the same opinion, what a surprise.


What so you think that every signing was poor then? Get a grip, poor signings were made but its ridiculous how fans like you make out that all of them were terrible.



Only Dhaeli has shown promise. All of them (bar Eikrem, Berget, Brayford, Moore and Maxi (who were both signed for the future yet Maxi doesn't even play for DVP) have been average or incredibly poor.


Yes, over the whole season a lot of signings have been average but the point i was making is that before mackay left, these now 'average' players were playing well which shows they obviously don't fit into an attacking system as they were bought for MM's defensive system. So can MM be the man blamed for that?

Agree that Deahli has been excellent and show great potential but are you really saying no other signing has been good? What about Caulker?



Caulker has been very average, he is incredibly overrated because he is young & English. He has been better than all of our signings bar Dhaeli (it isn't saying much) but still has cost us goals and is an awful leader.


Also none of Malky's signings performed when he was here. Medel still ran out of steam in November, KTC still carried on being skinned, Caulker was average and Odemwingie was useless.


Cant remember any goals being conceded because of Caulker? And with MM being a leader himself as a player i doubt he would of picked an 'awful' leader.

Medel out of steam in November? This was his best month, it was the month he pulled the strings against Swansea and was vital against United (especially a great link up with Mutch for Campbell's goal) as well as marking Rooney out of the game for Chile against England. KTC also had his best game in that month against Swansea. So yes they did perform and Medel was not running out of steam...


Of course Caulker has been responsible for some of our goals. We've conceded 69 this season, are you telling me Caulker is not at fault for some of them? :laughing5: So what? Caulker is far too young and raw to be captaining a newly promoted side. Ole was a decent striker yet signed Kenwyne Jones.

Medel did nothing in that goal, it was Whitts to Mutch to Campbell. I don't care what he does for Chile, we are Cardiff. He played well against Swansea and that was his SECOND good game he has ever had for us, the other being against City. 11m, 9m whatever, you expect better from this guy who had a huge reputation.

You do realise we played 3 matches in November after Swansea, right?


Caulker is responsible for every goal conceded as a defender but he has never been personally responsible by making a mistake that has led to a goal. Caulker has acted like a leader in the way that he has played and spoken so what has made you believe he isn't a good leader?

My mistake :notworthy: it was Whittingham, however that does not take away the fact he had a good game making crucial tackles and completing over 90% of his passes as was so common for him back then. As for his price, would agree maybe a bit inflated but aren't all football transfers? KTC only had 2 good games? Give it a rest he has only had defensive flaws since the turn of the year and i believe that is because he has been in and out of the side.

And yes, we did have 3 more games including that great draw against united. Well done Malky :ayatollah:



His awful positioning and constant standing off for a start. How has he acted like a leader? If he has we wouldn't have conceded so much, simple.

You do know the defensive midfielder's job is to keep play ticking over, right? Passing stats mean nothing unless they are contributing to something meaningful. No not all transfers are. If you look at it pedantically then yes they are all overpriced but don't use that as an excuse for Malky's failings in the market.

No I did not say that, READ AGAIN. I said Medel has had two good games for us.

Plus nothing is great about drawing with United this season.

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Fri May 02, 2014 12:23 am

Because we are crap...The whole crap...And nothing but the crap

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Fri May 02, 2014 9:34 am

It's become fashionable to blame Malky now, he wasn't perfect but overall he did great things at this club.

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Fri May 02, 2014 1:57 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
CCFCBluebirds wrote:So all you've really done is blame Malky? What is it with people blaming him for most of our problems this season?

The only disaster signing i think he made was Cornelius although this could of been different if he didn't have such big problems with injuries. Odemwinge did not play up to the part, he just never seemed to find form and i think on this occasion you have to put it down to one of those that just didn't work out for the player and club and no blame should be attached to anyone for that signing. The signing of Bradford seems bizarre but could still yet work out.

As for the other signings, you and many others seem to forget that Medel was instrumental in many games at the beginning of the season and looked like a great signing with pundits praising him everywhere. His form has dipped since the new year and its no coincidence that this is after MM had gone. I think that KTC has been the same and it doesn't help that he has been in and out of the side recently. As for Caulker, what a great signing, a young player with massive potential and has been outstanding IMO and has chipped in with some vital goals as well. No surprise that we could be selling him for £6m more than we bought him for just a year after signing yet you play him down to be a 'relative success'...?

So rather than blaming mainly MM i think you should also look more at what tan has done and the poor management of Ole even though i do think it has been a hard job for him to come into.




:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: at the bolded bit in particular. The rest of the post is fairly terrible as well. But another new account with the same opinion, what a surprise.


What so you think that every signing was poor then? Get a grip, poor signings were made but its ridiculous how fans like you make out that all of them were terrible.



Only Dhaeli has shown promise. All of them (bar Eikrem, Berget, Brayford, Moore and Maxi (who were both signed for the future yet Maxi doesn't even play for DVP) have been average or incredibly poor.


Yes, over the whole season a lot of signings have been average but the point i was making is that before mackay left, these now 'average' players were playing well which shows they obviously don't fit into an attacking system as they were bought for MM's defensive system. So can MM be the man blamed for that?

Agree that Deahli has been excellent and show great potential but are you really saying no other signing has been good? What about Caulker?



Caulker has been very average, he is incredibly overrated because he is young & English. He has been better than all of our signings bar Dhaeli (it isn't saying much) but still has cost us goals and is an awful leader.


Also none of Malky's signings performed when he was here. Medel still ran out of steam in November, KTC still carried on being skinned, Caulker was average and Odemwingie was useless.


Cant remember any goals being conceded because of Caulker? And with MM being a leader himself as a player i doubt he would of picked an 'awful' leader.

Medel out of steam in November? This was his best month, it was the month he pulled the strings against Swansea and was vital against United (especially a great link up with Mutch for Campbell's goal) as well as marking Rooney out of the game for Chile against England. KTC also had his best game in that month against Swansea. So yes they did perform and Medel was not running out of steam...


Of course Caulker has been responsible for some of our goals. We've conceded 69 this season, are you telling me Caulker is not at fault for some of them? :laughing5: So what? Caulker is far too young and raw to be captaining a newly promoted side. Ole was a decent striker yet signed Kenwyne Jones.

Medel did nothing in that goal, it was Whitts to Mutch to Campbell. I don't care what he does for Chile, we are Cardiff. He played well against Swansea and that was his SECOND good game he has ever had for us, the other being against City. 11m, 9m whatever, you expect better from this guy who had a huge reputation.

You do realise we played 3 matches in November after Swansea, right?


Caulker is responsible for every goal conceded as a defender but he has never been personally responsible by making a mistake that has led to a goal. Caulker has acted like a leader in the way that he has played and spoken so what has made you believe he isn't a good leader?

My mistake :notworthy: it was Whittingham, however that does not take away the fact he had a good game making crucial tackles and completing over 90% of his passes as was so common for him back then. As for his price, would agree maybe a bit inflated but aren't all football transfers? KTC only had 2 good games? Give it a rest he has only had defensive flaws since the turn of the year and i believe that is because he has been in and out of the side.

And yes, we did have 3 more games including that great draw against united. Well done Malky :ayatollah:



His awful positioning and constant standing off for a start. How has he acted like a leader? If he has we wouldn't have conceded so much, simple.

You do know the defensive midfielder's job is to keep play ticking over, right? Passing stats mean nothing unless they are contributing to something meaningful. No not all transfers are. If you look at it pedantically then yes they are all overpriced but don't use that as an excuse for Malky's failings in the market.

No I did not say that, READ AGAIN. I said Medel has had two good games for us.

Plus nothing is great about drawing with United this season.


I give up with you on Caulker, you clearly have something against him judging by the fact you are saying he has awful positioning :lol:

Yes that is a defensive midfeilders job and he was doing it perfectly well. :thumbup: Not making an excuse, just stating thats football nowadays and ive already said that there was only one failure in the transfer market through Cornelius.

Ok, so it was only Medel's second good game? What a load of rubbish he was consistently praised for his defensive work and passing success (which you have said is his job so it looks like he did his job well) . Also, you must not have seen him at Fulham, the one game we completely dominated the opposition and he was at the heart of everything, his performance in that game eclipsed the City and Swansea games.

United have the best away record in the league so yes, it was a GREAT draw :ayatollah:

Re: THE REASON WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!!

Fri May 02, 2014 3:14 pm

Caulker hasn't been helped by both Malky and especially ole with the tinkering of the back 4. I know they are hard to compare but when you think of some of great arsenal and man utd teams of the 90s you could name their back 4 for years. We haven't been able to name ours for a month. Hardly surprising as the best defensive fullback was out on loan for the first part of the season and our player of the year from the championship winning side couldn't oust turner. It's all hypothetical but I do believe caulker and out team would have benefitted more by Hudson playing alongside him more often. I don't believe they were given enough time to form an understanding. I do think caulker could play for a top team one day if he's lucky to play with an old head for a couple of years first to learn the ropes and most importantly find his voice. Like him or not but john terry doesn't stop talking and encouraging the players around him that's what makes leaders on the pitch not just your best player. :ayatollah: