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5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:05 pm

Failure to sign a decent striker
Failure to sign atleast one more winger
Failure to sign a left and right back
Failure to leave some money in the pot for janaury recruitments
Failure to use the loan market in and out

Re: 5 Malky Mackays failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:06 pm

Failure to play decent football
Failure to manage a budget
Failure not to spunk said budget away on unproven Danish shit houses

The list could go on

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:07 pm

It can't all be put down to Malky though. I do agree with your points, however, Ole also failed to rectify all these problems. He tried but brought in worse than what we already had. tan and his circus behaviour certainly didn't help either...

Re: 5 Malky Mackays failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:07 pm

Super Kev wrote:Failure to play decent football
Failure to manage a budget
Failure not to spunk said budget away on unproven Danish shit houses

The list could go on


Spot on.

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:09 pm

A block wrote:It can't all be put down to Malky though. I do agree with your points, however, Ole also failed to rectify all these problems. He tried but brought in worse than what we already had. tan and his circus behaviour certainly didn't help either...



Agree. But what can you expect with 6 mil ole had, if the money was spent more wisely in the summer, maybe there would be another 10 available for jan, which could of brought a decent loan signing or 2 in. Why malky never used the loan market baffles me. Teams like Everton thrive off the loan market.

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:13 pm

He's a tosser he even got us promoted and never in the relegation zone I glad we got rid of him!

Oles the same buys players in January to keep us up and only 2 get in the first team :laughing6: :laughing6:

And still don't no his best team after 4 months what a guy we have here , wonder if a league 1 team would have him

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:14 pm

CardiffCityBlue wrote:He's a tosser he even got us promoted and never in the relegation zone I glad we got rid of him!

Oles the same buys players in January to keep us up and only 2 get in the first team :laughing6: :laughing6:

And still don't no his best team after 4 months what a guy we have here , wonder if a league 1 team would have him



Never in the relegation :? Someone's telling porkies :laughing6:

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:15 pm

But despite all these "failings" from Malky, he still kept us above the relegation zone! :lol:

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:17 pm

Kenfig Blue wrote:
CardiffCityBlue wrote:He's a tosser he even got us promoted and never in the relegation zone I glad we got rid of him!

Oles the same buys players in January to keep us up and only 2 get in the first team :laughing6: :laughing6:

And still don't no his best team after 4 months what a guy we have here , wonder if a league 1 team would have him



Never in the relegation :? Someone's telling porkies :laughing6:


17th when he left job well done malky :ayatollah:

Donkey got us relegated :ole:

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:17 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:But despite all these "failings" from Malky, he still kept us above the relegation zone! :lol:


On August 17th at 5pm we were in the relegation zone under his management after losing to WHU

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:18 pm

Super Kev wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:But despite all these "failings" from Malky, he still kept us above the relegation zone! :lol:


On August 17th at 5pm we were in the relegation zone under his management after losing to WHU


Under ole we were 17th or above on....

Oh shit ...

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:21 pm

You anti Milky lot are making yourselves a right bunch of cry babies. Just admit it you all got your way and it failed.

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:21 pm

1 point of the relegation places with our hardest month of fixtures to come. Is doesnt take einstein as they say.

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:22 pm

This "we weren't in relegation when he let" argument is nonsense. The longer the season went on the worse we got under Malky and that trend continued under Ole. Malky wasted millions of pounds on flops. Ole wasted slightly less on more flops. People will argue that it is Tans fault but ultimately we have been the worst (apart from Fulham) side I have seen this season by light years. That is under both Malky and Ole. I think all Tan, Malky and Ole are to blame and both managers would have gotten us relegated.

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:23 pm

A block wrote:It can't all be put down to Malky though. I do agree with your points, however, Ole also failed to rectify all these problems. He tried but brought in worse than what we already had. tan and his circus behaviour certainly didn't help either...



I don't believe you can compare transfer windows as January is a notoriously bad time for signing players. We can criticise ole but what players were realistically available to him at his budget.
The striker problem should have been dealt with in the summer window and I believe Malky probably did believe corny was the answer.
If that was the case then there was a serious flaw in the so called three stage dossier

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:26 pm

steve davies wrote:
A block wrote:It can't all be put down to Malky though. I do agree with your points, however, Ole also failed to rectify all these problems. He tried but brought in worse than what we already had. tan and his circus behaviour certainly didn't help either...



I don't believe you can compare transfer windows as January is a notoriously bad time for signing players. We can criticise ole but what players were realistically available to him at his budget.
The striker problem should have been dealt with in the summer window and I believe Malky probably did believe corny was the answer.
If that was the case then there was a serious flaw in the so called three stage dossier


I have been reliably informed by someone who works at the clubs offices, that Malkys dossiers consisted of a 3 page printout of youtube comments on a players video.

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:27 pm

steve davies wrote:
A block wrote:It can't all be put down to Malky though. I do agree with your points, however, Ole also failed to rectify all these problems. He tried but brought in worse than what we already had. tan and his circus behaviour certainly didn't help either...



I don't believe you can compare transfer windows as January is a notoriously bad time for signing players. We can criticise ole but what players were realistically available to him at his budget.
The striker problem should have been dealt with in the summer window and I believe Malky probably did believe corny was the answer.
If that was the case then there was a serious flaw in the so called three stage dossier


Im more inclined to believe Ole probably told Dalman/Tan that he only needed x amount of money to keep us up. Believing the players he signed were good enough. They weren't. I know Tan is a lunatic but if Ole told him he needed to spend big on a striker or risk going down and losing millions of pounds then Tan would have backed him. He is a business man and wouldn't risk losing so much money.

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:30 pm

The worst bit is malky stands by the signing of cornelius still, that's a total kick in the death for the fans when he can clearly see upfront has been our big problem.

Bakedalasker wrote:You anti Milky lot are making yourselves a right bunch of cry babies. Just admit it you all got your way and it failed.


Sacking malky was 100% the right decision, it's just a shame Ole didn't work out. We had to try something though.

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:48 pm

A block wrote:
steve davies wrote:
A block wrote:It can't all be put down to Malky though. I do agree with your points, however, Ole also failed to rectify all these problems. He tried but brought in worse than what we already had. tan and his circus behaviour certainly didn't help either...



I don't believe you can compare transfer windows as January is a notoriously bad time for signing players. We can criticise ole but what players were realistically available to him at his budget.
The striker problem should have been dealt with in the summer window and I believe Malky probably did believe corny was the answer.
If that was the case then there was a serious flaw in the so called three stage dossier


Im more inclined to believe Ole probably told Dalman/Tan that he only needed x amount of money to keep us up. Believing the players he signed were good enough. They weren't. I know Tan is a lunatic but if Ole told him he needed to spend big on a striker or risk going down and losing millions of pounds then Tan would have backed him. He is a business man and wouldn't risk losing so much money.



I agree with you but realistically I don't think there was a striker of the quality we needed available. He gambled on jones probably thinking getting away from stoke would give him a new lease of life but that failed along with the Zaha signing whom ole was probably hoping would provide the service jones needed.

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:50 pm

steve davies wrote:
A block wrote:
steve davies wrote:
A block wrote:It can't all be put down to Malky though. I do agree with your points, however, Ole also failed to rectify all these problems. He tried but brought in worse than what we already had. tan and his circus behaviour certainly didn't help either...



I don't believe you can compare transfer windows as January is a notoriously bad time for signing players. We can criticise ole but what players were realistically available to him at his budget.
The striker problem should have been dealt with in the summer window and I believe Malky probably did believe corny was the answer.
If that was the case then there was a serious flaw in the so called three stage dossier


Im more inclined to believe Ole probably told Dalman/Tan that he only needed x amount of money to keep us up. Believing the players he signed were good enough. They weren't. I know Tan is a lunatic but if Ole told him he needed to spend big on a striker or risk going down and losing millions of pounds then Tan would have backed him. He is a business man and wouldn't risk losing so much money.



I agree with you but realistically I don't think there was a striker of the quality we needed available. He gambled on jones probably thinking getting away from stoke would give him a new lease of life but that failed along with the Zaha signing whom ole was probably hoping would provide the service jones needed.


You probably know more than most but didn't OGS try to get the Spanish striker and/or the striker from the German club in during January but just missed out?

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:52 pm

C. Rombie-Coat wrote:
steve davies wrote:
A block wrote:
steve davies wrote:
A block wrote:It can't all be put down to Malky though. I do agree with your points, however, Ole also failed to rectify all these problems. He tried but brought in worse than what we already had. tan and his circus behaviour certainly didn't help either...



I don't believe you can compare transfer windows as January is a notoriously bad time for signing players. We can criticise ole but what players were realistically available to him at his budget.
The striker problem should have been dealt with in the summer window and I believe Malky probably did believe corny was the answer.
If that was the case then there was a serious flaw in the so called three stage dossier


Im more inclined to believe Ole probably told Dalman/Tan that he only needed x amount of money to keep us up. Believing the players he signed were good enough. They weren't. I know Tan is a lunatic but if Ole told him he needed to spend big on a striker or risk going down and losing millions of pounds then Tan would have backed him. He is a business man and wouldn't risk losing so much money.



I agree with you but realistically I don't think there was a striker of the quality we needed available. He gambled on jones probably thinking getting away from stoke would give him a new lease of life but that failed along with the Zaha signing whom ole was probably hoping would provide the service jones needed.


You probably know more than most but didn't OGS try to get the Spanish striker and/or the striker from the German club in during January but just missed out?

Correct. We were also in the market for Filip Djordevic of Nantes but their chairman pulled out at the last minute. He is now on loan at Lazio which proves the calibre of striker Ole was looking for

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:25 pm

C. Rombie-Coat wrote:
steve davies wrote:
A block wrote:
steve davies wrote:
A block wrote:It can't all be put down to Malky though. I do agree with your points, however, Ole also failed to rectify all these problems. He tried but brought in worse than what we already had. tan and his circus behaviour certainly didn't help either...



I don't believe you can compare transfer windows as January is a notoriously bad time for signing players. We can criticise ole but what players were realistically available to him at his budget.
The striker problem should have been dealt with in the summer window and I believe Malky probably did believe corny was the answer.
If that was the case then there was a serious flaw in the so called three stage dossier


Im more inclined to believe Ole probably told Dalman/Tan that he only needed x amount of money to keep us up. Believing the players he signed were good enough. They weren't. I know Tan is a lunatic but if Ole told him he needed to spend big on a striker or risk going down and losing millions of pounds then Tan would have backed him. He is a business man and wouldn't risk losing so much money.



I agree with you but realistically I don't think there was a striker of the quality we needed available. He gambled on jones probably thinking getting away from stoke would give him a new lease of life but that failed along with the Zaha signing whom ole was probably hoping would provide the service jones needed.


You probably know more than most but didn't OGS try to get the Spanish striker and/or the striker from the German club in during January but just missed out?



I believe ole tried everything possible to bring a striker in from here and abroad and was turned down at the eleventh hour by a couple of chairmen
The trouble is with January if your sat in mid table a few wins take you into the promotion picture whereas the opposite takes you into the relegation battle so it's no wonder no club will take a chance on cashing in on one of their prize assets .
The damage was done in the summer by not bringing in a proven goal scorer then.

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:29 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:You anti Milky lot are making yourselves a right bunch of cry babies. Just admit it you all got your way and it failed.

This.

Re: 5 Malky Mackay failures that led to our downfall

Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:33 pm

Kenfig Blue wrote:Failure to sign a decent striker
Failure to sign atleast one more winger
Failure to sign a left and right back
Failure to leave some money in the pot for janaury recruitments
Failure to use the loan market in and out


Failure to sign Jordan Rhodes :oops: :oops: :oops: Along with the past and present manager ;)