" When it really mattered "

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" When it really mattered "

When the games that really mattered under Ole we got smashed,embarrassed and hammered and before you say here we go another shot at Ole, the facts don't lie.

In such a short space of time.

Can we all be honest, these were the big games.

Hull City home 4 nil loss
Swansea away 3 nil loss
Crystal Palace home 3 nil loss
Sunderland away 4 nil loss.

Sorry but there can't be any excuses for this.

What worries me is that Ole was naive and his inexperience as a manager in the Premier League, but at least he had some experience of it as a player,yet he knows nothing about the Championship.

Do you honestly feel Ole will bring us straight back up as thanks to our £130 mill debt created by Vincent Tan we have to come straight back up?

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agree we should of got a lot more from these games but i wouldn't put all the blame on ole,the players just never turned up

If Malky didnt spunk 40m in utter shite players we wouldnt have been in the mess in the first place

agree we should of got a lot more from these games but i wouldn't put all the blame on ole,the players just never turned up

I agree Mark, the players have to shoulder some of the blame,but the buck stops at the manager for these awful results and if we had got something from any of these games we would not be bottom of the Prem.
These teams were not exactly the elite of the Premier League.

agree we should of got a lot more from these games but i wouldn't put all the blame on ole,the players just never turned up

I agree Mark, the players have to shoulder some of the blame,but the buck stops at the manager for these awful results and if we had got something from any of these games we would not be bottom of the Prem.
These teams were not exactly the elite of the Premier League.

totally agree he has made a lot of mistakes with his team selections but hopefully he will learn from these by next season fingers crossed

The players for me need to shoulder alot of the blame. take yest for example, ktc out muscled for the first goal went down like a fairy, calas shit back pass. theres not much a manager can do about that. And of course the main reason, the squad was just to poor. But hey it was a fuk up from start to finish, just not gd enough.

50/50 do you blame the players for not turning up or the tactics laid down by the manager?

Whatever combination you work out the responsibility stops at the top.

If Malky didnt spunk 40m in utter shite players we wouldnt have been in the mess in the first place

Strange, I didn't hear you slate Malky's team when we beat Man City. It is true that Ole's team is easier on the eye but they are also easier to beat and lack the steely toughness that was typical of a Malky team. If you want proof then the last display against Swansea was proof enough as well as all the other hammerings that we have endured recently. Ole has had his chance and has failed albeit under difficult circumstances but he fully accepted the challenge knowing the difficulties existed. Whether you liked Malky or not,the upheaval of changing him and the undermining of him during his last few weeks clearly cost us valuable points which was then compounded whilst a new manager tried to get to grips with the situation and all under extreme media speculation. Tan is the only one at fault and we should show him how we feel at our last home game.

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

If a descent striker had of been bought at the start of the season it might be a different story, it's all to easy to put all the blame on Ole now. Is this the start of a crusade against Ole like you did against Dave Jones, and part of the debt has got to go down to your mate Sam or doesn't that count

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

What other manager had the chairman on his back likealky. Tans actions spread through the manager onto the pitch. Why can't you see that Craig?

If a descent striker had of been bought at the start of the season it might be a different story, it's all to easy to put all the blame on Ole now. Is this the start of a crusade against Ole like you did against Dave Jones, and part of the debt has got to go down to your mate Sam or doesn't that count

doesnt count....Sam had Pashun and bought ice cream

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

What other manager had the chairman on his back likealky. Tans actions spread through the manager onto the pitch. Why can't you see that Craig?

Why cant you see Malky spunked the biggest transfer budget a newly promoted team has ever had?

Why a striker wasnt bought in 3 seasons?

So Malky was under pressure from his boss???BOO f*cking HOO!!

He was given all the tools to succeed and he fucked it.

But he pumped his fist so he gets your vote

I can vividly remember some people who have posted here questioning MM after poor results vs Bristol City, Peterborough & Charlton - I think it's perfect time to allow Ole the same grace of time in my humble opinion....

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

If a descent striker had of been bought at the start of the season it might be a different story, it's all to easy to put all the blame on Ole now. Is this the start of a crusade against Ole like you did against Dave Jones, and part of the debt has got to go down to your mate Sam or doesn't that count

Perhaps Malky might have got a decent striker if Tan had given him funds in January.

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

Pundits side with any manager when they are sacked. Look at Adkins when he got sacked from Southampton. Thing is, you claim this steely toughness, it was a myth as we had 2nd worse defensive record under Malky. We still have 2nd worse defensive record under Ole. Nothing has changed.

If a descent striker had of been bought at the start of the season it might be a different story, it's all to easy to put all the blame on Ole now. Is this the start of a crusade against Ole like you did against Dave Jones, and part of the debt has got to go down to your mate Sam or doesn't that count

Perhaps Malky might have got a decent striker if Tan had given him funds in January.

He didnt get enough in the summer?

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

What other manager had the chairman on his back likealky. Tans actions spread through the manager onto the pitch. Why can't you see that Craig?

Why cant you see Malky spunked the biggest transfer budget a newly promoted team has ever had?

Why a striker wasnt bought in 3 seasons?

So Malky was under pressure from his boss???BOO f*cking HOO!!

He was given all the tools to succeed and he fucked it.

But he pumped his fist so he gets your vote

Where have I ever supported the fist pump?

Craig you need to chill out else you are going to have a fit.

I've been saying g all along malkys letdown has been not finding a striker.

If a descent striker had of been bought at the start of the season it might be a different story, it's all to easy to put all the blame on Ole now. Is this the start of a crusade against Ole like you did against Dave Jones, and part of the debt has got to go down to your mate Sam or doesn't that count

Perhaps Malky might have got a decent striker if Tan had given him funds in January.

Tans a c**t for what hes done with the rebrand but he backed Malky to the hilt ffs.

45m on transfers and wages last season.

40m on transfers alone last summer.

Jeez I dont know what planet some people are on. I really dont.

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

What other manager had the chairman on his back likealky. Tans actions spread through the manager onto the pitch. Why can't you see that Craig?

Why cant you see Malky spunked the biggest transfer budget a newly promoted team has ever had?

Why a striker wasnt bought in 3 seasons?

So Malky was under pressure from his boss???BOO f*cking HOO!!

He was given all the tools to succeed and he fucked it.

But he pumped his fist so he gets your vote

Where have I ever supported the fist pump?

Craig you need to chill out else you are going to have a fit.

I've been saying g all along malkys letdown has been not finding a striker.

I am calm lol

Its just this myth about Malky is absurd. Ole isnt doing very well and needs to sort himself out and deserves the summer to do it but suggesting we were better under Malky is nonsense

If a descent striker had of been bought at the start of the season it might be a different story, it's all to easy to put all the blame on Ole now. Is this the start of a crusade against Ole like you did against Dave Jones, and part of the debt has got to go down to your mate Sam or doesn't that count

Perhaps Malky might have got a decent striker if Tan had given him funds in January.

I can't take you serious any more after saying that, he had the money to buy a striker and fu*ked up BIG time, why would Tan give him any more money to piss away

If a descent striker had of been bought at the start of the season it might be a different story, it's all to easy to put all the blame on Ole now. Is this the start of a crusade against Ole like you did against Dave Jones, and part of the debt has got to go down to your mate Sam or doesn't that count

Perhaps Malky might have got a decent striker if Tan had given him funds in January.

Ridiculous comment after the acorn fiasco

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

Pundits side with any manager when they are sacked. Look at Adkins when he got sacked from Southampton. Thing is, you claim this steely toughness, it was a myth as we had 2nd worse defensive record under Malky. We still have 2nd worse defensive record under Ole. Nothing has changed.

Wrong again. The pundits were all telling us that we were hard to beat from the start ov the season and not as you suggest in sympathy of Malky's sacking. Like I said you pour scorn on Malkyn now yet you did not do this when we beat Man City. Tans plan to replace Malky with a manager who was going to dazzle us has failed miserably and it's about time you had the decency to admit it.

If a descent striker had of been bought at the start of the season it might be a different story, it's all to easy to put all the blame on Ole now. Is this the start of a crusade against Ole like you did against Dave Jones, and part of the debt has got to go down to your mate Sam or doesn't that count

Perhaps Malky might have got a decent striker if Tan had given him funds in January.

I can't take you serious any more after saying that, he had the money to buy a striker and fu*ked up BIG time, why would Tan give him any more money to piss away

Im off back to bed. I didnt pull a sicky to argue with people who just got off the sunshine bus.

The malky debate will rage on. There can be no debate though that ole is clueless and must go

If a descent striker had of been bought at the start of the season it might be a different story, it's all to easy to put all the blame on Ole now. Is this the start of a crusade against Ole like you did against Dave Jones, and part of the debt has got to go down to your mate Sam or doesn't that count

Perhaps Malky might have got a decent striker if Tan had given him funds in January.

Ridiculous comment after the acorn fiasco

Not ridiculous at all. Considering that Malky had to rebuild nigh on a new team it was inevitable that one or two of the new signings would be duds.

If a descent striker had of been bought at the start of the season it might be a different story, it's all to easy to put all the blame on Ole now. Is this the start of a crusade against Ole like you did against Dave Jones, and part of the debt has got to go down to your mate Sam or doesn't that count

Perhaps Malky might have got a decent striker if Tan had given him funds in January.

I can't take you serious any more after saying that, he had the money to buy a striker and fu*ked up BIG time, why would Tan give him any more money to piss away

Im off back to bed. I didnt pull a sicky to argue with people who just got off the sunshine bus.

He is still on the sunshine bus

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

Pundits side with any manager when they are sacked. Look at Adkins when he got sacked from Southampton. Thing is, you claim this steely toughness, it was a myth as we had 2nd worse defensive record under Malky. We still have 2nd worse defensive record under Ole. Nothing has changed.

Wrong again. The pundits were all telling us that we were hard to beat from the start ov the season and not as you suggest in sympathy of Malky's sacking. Like I said you pour scorn on Malkyn now yet you did not do this when we beat Man City. Tans plan to replace Malky with a manager who was going to dazzle us has failed miserably and it's about time you had the decency to admit it.

How were we hard to beat?

I watched us every week and we werent. This isnt about the new regime, this is about Malky failing.....which he clearly did

The malky debate will rage on. There can be no debate though that ole is clueless and must go

Agreed as the facts speak for themselves but I am sure someone will try and argue otherwise.Tans plan to replace Malky has not only failed but been blown out of the water. We are bottom of the league and got hammered Sunday. Does anyone need any more proof than this.