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Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:04 am
Tuesday 15th April 2014.
Six first-team players involved in brawl during training
Swansea chairman witnessed the fierce clashes
Dressing room has been ripped apart by in-fighting
Manager Monk was trying to unite squad for relegation battle
Influx of high earners this season has affected morale
Swansea's preparations for Sunday's home defeat by Chelsea were undermined by an amazing training-ground fight.
The extraordinary incident involved six players from the first-team squad and took place during a full-scale practice match last Wednesday.
Swansea chairman Huw Jenkins was left stunned after witnessing the fierce clashes between players.
Although he has not taken disciplinary action against those involved, Jenkins is becoming increasingly alarmed about the friction in the Swansea dressing room.
According to training-ground sources, there were three incidents during the high-tempo session organised by interim manager Garry Monk. It is understood players had to be separated after tempers flared and tackles got out of hand.
The incredible scenes will do nothing to help morale at the club.
Monk, who took over when Michael Laudrup was fired, is attempting to repair relations between the players and unite the squad as they try to avoid relegation.
Swansea lost 1-0 at the Liberty Stadium on Sunday against Chelsea and went down to 10 men after Chico Flores was sent off for a second bookable offence.
Monk had organised the training game with the specific brief to get the 1-0 defeat at Hull five days previously out of the system.
Instead, it turned into an opportunity for players who have issues with the work ethic of team-mates to start picking fights.
Swansea have struggled to build on last season's success, when they qualified for the Europa League after beating Bradford in the Capital One Cup final.
This is not the first time the club's dressing room has been ripped apart by in-fighting among the players.
In January, Sportsmail revealed that Flores had picked up a brick during a row with Monk.
A member of the public witnessed the incident and called police, claiming Flores had grabbed a brick and threatened Monk with it.
Just two weeks later Laudrup, who led the team to a ninth-place finish in the Barclays Premier League last season, was fired.
Swansea have won just one of their last nine games in the top flight and stand three points above the drop zone ahead of Saturday's trip to Newcastle.
The club brought in a number of players last summer to help cope with the added demands of playing in the Europa League for the first time.
Wilfried Bony, who has been a success leading the attack since joining from Vitesse Arnhem, earns £58,000 a week, for example. But the influx of high earners has affected morale in the dressing room and Jenkins plans to make a number of strategic changes in the summer.
There are other issues at the club and a source claimed one player was caught refuelling with crisps at half-time in a recent match.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:56 am
Means nothing to me,looks like the players are acting like their inbred fans. let them get on with it. Totally focused on City and our remaining games
Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:39 am
Gavin wrote:There are other issues at the club and a source claimed one player was caught refuelling with crisps at half-time in a recent match.
We have a mole, they have a half time snacker....
Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:39 am
war? more like a pillow fight during a sleepover because someone stole Chico's makeup.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:36 am
I'm sure some jacks were saying they are run properly and no player was on more than 25/30k
Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:39 am
I'm sure that tw*t roathie and the other pussy jacks will be along to tell us everythings fine.Someone should tell Hugh that Monk was part of the problem and not the answer.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:00 am
Come on down Roathy , 5 pager coming up
Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:17 am
Xcasual wrote:Come on down Roathy , 5 pager coming up

Think he's got to sign on today.........
Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:20 am
Xcasual wrote:Come on down Roathy , 5 pager coming up

Not much to say really. It is true.
New spanish lot (Vasquez, Canas, Pozuelo) are not getting on with the squad and have turned some of the other spanish lot (Hernandez, Chico).
Changes will be made pre season.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:02 am
War at swansea, but total emaressment at the red leggo brick house.
And lets be honest here? We will have to achieve extrodery levels tp be even considered in the same league as your selfs over the last few years.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:10 am
swansealad69 wrote:War at swansea, but total emaressment at the red leggo brick house.
And lets be honest here? We will have to achieve extrodery levels tp be even considered in the same league as your selfs over the last few years.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:17 am
swansealad69 wrote:War at swansea, but total emaressment at the red leggo brick house.
And lets be honest here? We will have to achieve extrodery levels tp be even considered in the same league as your selfs over the last few years.
Your 'extrodery' stupid!
Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:26 am
Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:32 am
Cardiff Daft! wrote:swansealad69 wrote:War at swansea, but total emaressment at the red leggo brick house.
And lets be honest here? We will have to achieve extrodery levels tp be even considered in the same league as your selfs over the last few years.
Your 'extrodery' stupid!
Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:08 am
imagine they went down and we didnt, i know it wont happen and more likely the other way round, but it would be so funny, funnier even than the idiot flores antics

all this is music to my ears. they are falling from their lucky little peak
Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:13 am
Its almost as embarrassing as whats happened at our club over the last season
Between both Vincent Tan and the Swansea team - they have set a shit example for welsh teams
Not looking good for Swansea at the moment - not that i am overly interested mind
Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:43 am
What a f**king mess! It will either pull the players together for the remaining 4 games (If this happened last week then there wasn't a whole lot wrong with our performance against Chelsea, apart from Chico having yet another brainfart!), or we are knackered!
I honestly don't know... Not going to blame Monk for all this, the rot had set in a good while back and it sounds as though Laudrup let the players have a bit too much leeway while he was here. Either way, an interesting few weeks ahead.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:51 am
scotsjack wrote:What a f**king mess! It will either pull the players together for the remaining 4 games (If this happened last week then there wasn't a whole lot wrong with our performance against Chelsea, apart from Chico having yet another brainfart!), or we are knackered!
I honestly don't know... Not going to blame Monk for all this, the rot had set in a good while back and it sounds as though Laudrup let the players have a bit too much leeway while he was here. Either way, an interesting few weeks ahead.
Agree with your second paragraph.
Laudrup was extremely hands off and the work ethic slipped in the more lazy players in terms of training, diet and general effort. This annoyed the likes of Monk, Williams, Shelvey (the natural winners) and the divide was created. Monk took over but the splits had already formed.
They are not repairable, Jenkins will make changed pre season. I dont expect Canas, Pozuelo or obviously Vasquez to be featuring for the rest of the season and will look to be offloaded in the summer.
No idea what is happening to Hernandez, he is too good to offload for nothing but he is causing some problems and he is great mates with Laudrup as they share the same tw*t of an agent in Tutumlu.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:58 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:scotsjack wrote:What a f**king mess! It will either pull the players together for the remaining 4 games (If this happened last week then there wasn't a whole lot wrong with our performance against Chelsea, apart from Chico having yet another brainfart!), or we are knackered!
I honestly don't know... Not going to blame Monk for all this, the rot had set in a good while back and it sounds as though Laudrup let the players have a bit too much leeway while he was here. Either way, an interesting few weeks ahead.
Agree with your second paragraph.
Laudrup was extremely hands off and the work ethic slipped in the more lazy players in terms of training, diet and general effort. This annoyed the likes of Monk, Williams, Shelvey (the natural winners) and the divide was created. Monk took over but the splits had already formed.
They are not repairable, Jenkins will make changed pre season. I dont expect Canas, Pozuelo or obviously Vasquez to be featuring for the rest of the season and will look to be offloaded in the summer.
No idea what is happening to Hernandez, he is too good to offload for nothing but he is causing some problems and he is great mates with Laudrup as they share the same tw*t of an agent in Tutumlu.
Shame about Hernandez if that's true about him causing problems, he's looked a lot sharper lately, both him and DeGuzman! But yep, clear out is required ASAP.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:02 pm
Mel86 wrote:imagine they went down and we didnt, i know it wont happen and more likely the other way round, but it would be so funny, funnier even than the idiot flores antics

all this is music to my ears. they are falling from their lucky little peak

Yeah have fun imagining it, as you said yourself it wont happen.
TRose69 wrote:Its almost as embarrassing as whats happened at our club over the last season
Between both Vincent Tan and the Swansea team - they have set a shit example for welsh teams
Not looking good for Swansea at the moment - not that i am overly interested mind
'Yes a couple of training ground bust ups really is almost as embarrassing as the season long clown show over in the capital. Are you being serious?? Obviously it is an issue, but one that will no doubt be resolved in the summer, when hopefully a couple of other things will get sorted out and the club can go back to their best.
No Swansea fans here are denying there is a problem, but it is hardly in the same league as truckload of shit you've had to put up with this year.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:04 pm
If true obviously no respect for the Manager ..........
Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:04 pm
I didnt catch the moment with my own eyes so cant verify, but i was told he stormed stright down the tunnel after being subbed for the Chico sending off against Chelsea. He has joined ranks with the new Spaniards so hopefully if they are shipped out then he may come back onto the fold again.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:05 pm
Bluebina wrote:If true obviously no respect for the Manager ..........
Nothing to do with the manager. Arguments happen in work places up and down the country, who the boss is has no baring.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:09 pm
Swansea fans.........Do you think GM will be manager for the next season?? (I suppose so much of that depends on what happens in the last four games) Would you still want him to be the manager? Personally, I think Jenkins will probably look elsewhere now, whatever happens this season.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:10 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Bluebina wrote:If true obviously no respect for the Manager ..........
Nothing to do with the manager. Arguments happen in work places up and down the country, who the boss is has no baring.
That's utter bollox a good Manager keeps these matters under control, he is out of his depth.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:14 pm
Daft Dave wrote:Swansea fans.........Do you think GM will be manager for the next season?? (I suppose so much of that depends on what happens in the last four games) Would you still want him to be the manager? Personally, I think Jenkins will probably look elsewhere now, whatever happens this season.
No and no. If Jenkins doesn't look elsewhere he needs his head looking at. As much as I and most Swansea fans wanted the appointment to work (and I honestly thought it would), it hasn't and we need someone more experienced in.
I have no problem with keeping Monk on as a coach or assistant where he can continue to learn, in fact I think he deserves that, but he is not ready to manage a PL team. It worked with Martinez but that was when we were in League 1, I can see now I was naive to think GM could come into a PL job and have similar success just because HJ 'had faith' in him.
Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:15 pm
Bluebina wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:Bluebina wrote:If true obviously no respect for the Manager ..........
Nothing to do with the manager. Arguments happen in work places up and down the country, who the boss is has no baring.
That's utter bollox a good Manager keeps these matters under control, he is out of his depth.
Well then Laudrup was too, and Martinez
Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:15 pm
Interestingly, Pouzelo, JDG and Amat were all out Sunday night on a major bender.
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