Hillsboro gave us a break

40 yrs ago this week my dad past away he was 47 very young I was 12 but I don't harp on about it I grew up without a dad so have many other people what makes Liverpool so bloody special makes my blood boil on times

Im sorry to hear about your old man

The reason why hillsboro is such a big deal is that the people who dies were wrongly blamed for the incident

Imagine if a relative died due to someone elses negligence and the police and national press blamed them - aside from the incident itself the injustice is a big part of it

Yes you are right but they not the first won't be the last Guildford/Birmingham bombers etc life is full of injustice that's life

I know it was a terrible incident and all, but I think they're hanging on to this for a bit too long now. holding up a banner saying JFT96 won't change anything, as much as we'd like it to. You won't find a newspaper out there who still blames the fans, almost everyone is in agreement that it was the fault of the policing and the way the fans were packed in too tightly.

If you ask me it's time to give it a rest and just have minutes silence and coming together on the anniversary of the disaster.

I know it was a terrible incident and all, but I think they're hanging on to this for a bit too long now. holding up a banner saying JFT96 won't change anything, as much as we'd like it to. You won't find a newspaper out there who still blames the fans, almost everyone is in agreement that it was the fault of the policing and the way the fans were packed in too tightly.

If you ask me it's time to give it a rest and just have minutes silence and coming together on the anniversary of the disaster.

Its done everything...

THe family's fighting for justice for the 96 people who died that day have reopened the police case, getting an apology from the Suns editor and keeping the case open to find who is really to blame

Yes everyone now knows it wasn't the fans who were to blame - and that's down to the efforts of the family's in getting justice and the negligent party has not answered for their negligence

only people not blamed are the 15k pool fans who was at the gate who shouldnt have been there, it would never have happened if only fans with tickets was at ground! also what the families are basically saying that anyone left alive after cut off time, were left to die by emergency services hence reason for new inquest they want someone to blame? big question is if same verdict is given then what? say its a white wash??? tbh dont think will be happy unless get the verdict that suites them!!

only people not blamed are the 15k pool fans who was at the gate who shouldnt have been there, it would never have happened if only fans with tickets was at ground! also what the families are basically saying that anyone left alive after cut off time, were left to die by emergency services hence reason for new inquest they want someone to blame? big question is if same verdict is given then what? say its a white wash??? tbh dont think will be happy unless get the verdict that suites them!!

The ticketless Liverpool fans are as much to blame as the police for the disaster.

What always gets me with the scousers is their dreadful memories and double standards. They forget that scousers were responsible for 39 deaths at heysel. Also in 80s their fans sang non stop about Munich to utd. As soon as utd gave it back about hills borough (wrongly) they didn't like it.

Can't agree with this.

Hillsborough is one of the worst cover ups in history - I can only commend the families for fighting as long as they have; hopefully it now looks like they'll get their reward.

Ultimately, it was bad organisation and bad policing that caused the disaster. However, the attempts by the police to cover it up as drunken and violent behaviour are utterly shameful and should be brought to book.

Good luck to them I say.

Can't agree with this.

Hillsborough is one of the worst cover ups in history - I can only commend the families for fighting as long as they have; hopefully it now looks like they'll get their reward.

Ultimately, it was bad organisation and bad policing that caused the disaster. However, the attempts by the police to cover it up as drunken and violent behaviour are utterly shameful and should be brought to book.

Good luck to them I say.

Police made huge mistakes but if hundreds of scousers had not turned up ticketless and drunk the disaster would not have happened.

only people not blamed are the 15k pool fans who was at the gate who shouldnt have been there, it would never have happened if only fans with tickets was at ground! also what the families are basically saying that anyone left alive after cut off time, were left to die by emergency services hence reason for new inquest they want someone to blame? big question is if same verdict is given then what? say its a white wash??? tbh dont think will be happy unless get the verdict that suites them!!

The ticketless Liverpool fans are as much to blame as the police for the disaster.

What always gets me with the scousers is their dreadful memories and double standards. They forget that scousers were responsible for 39 deaths at heysel. Also in 80s their fans sang non stop about Munich to utd. As soon as utd gave it back about hills borough (wrongly) they didn't like it.

Totally agree they are always the victim's ,the fact is I'd the ticketless fans didn't turn up and run it it wouldnt of happened ,it's horrible that innocent fans with tickets were killed it was the fans fault just as much as the police

Couldn even begin how the family's cope with losing they loved ones, but like some have said the scousers loved to get in without paying and were masters at it....after that tradegy it's hard to believe they still do it our carling cup final for one trying to go through with city fans pushing and shoving trying to pinch tickets and attacking people, and in Turkey when they won champions league there was bedlam outside ground with ticketless fans...yes the family's deserve justice as the Yorkshire police are cunts as we know...!!!

Wow what an incredibly nieve and distasteful thread.

How can you be happy to leave go the fact the authorities, including the police force and then thatcher gov were part of the biggest cover up in British history. Its appalling and has to be fully investigated and individuals brought to justice.

Yes there were many factors nobody can deny that but a policeforce altering statements and a government being compliant in it is not something I am happy to leave go.

As for the idiot who said what difference does the jft96 campaign make. f**k me how blind and stupid can somebody be. The campaign IS the only reason we have found out that policr changed statements, altered notebooks and intimidated witnesses. FFS.

Its not soley about the mistakes the police and authorities made on the day , its about the criminal acts of cover up that followed. Cant believe any football fan would want this to drop until the truth is finally made official and justice is served.

40 yrs ago this week my dad past away he was 47 very young I was 12 but I don't harp on about it I grew up without a dad so have many other people what makes Liverpool so bloody special makes my blood boil on times

What a stupid post. No one is saying that one death is better than the other it's not a bloody competition FFS. Football fans from around the country sat down on a Saturday (It could have been a different day, I can't remember) to watch a game of footy on the TV. Some were watching in pubs, some at home on their sofas as I was. As I chilled out in my living room with a cup of coffee I was suddenly faced with scenes of Chaos and you knew something was unfolding that was bad, you were just unaware how bad. I could see the terror in peoples faces, the emotion, the pain, the hurt.

I was looking at individual people who were unresponsive wondering if they were dead, or if they would make it through. I sat in shock and disbelief as the events were broadcast that lead to the death of 96 people.

No offence to you or your dad but I can relate more to Hillsboro more than your dad as I don't know your dad and don't know you but I know the pain etched on peoples faces from this disaster because I had seen it with my own eyes.

Just an excuse to have a go at the police.

The hillsborough families had the cheek to lay the blame of the deaths on policemen and women, claiming no alcohol was involved and not one fan acted the clown. Who believes that? No one.

It is frankly f*cking PATHETIC this gets more coverage than remembrance Sunday.

Millions have lost their lives since the tragedy, I couldn't care less about it. I will die, who cares? My family and friends maybe, then life goes on. It is a shame everyone couldn't have gotten together to remember the dead properly instead of pathetic arguing that no good can from.

Have to agree. It was a tragedy and anyone who stood on a packed terrace back in the day can empathise but every year this outpouring of grief is getting a bit much.

However we dont mourn any other disaster year on year ie the bradford disaster, those killed in heysel, munich.etc

Have to agree. It was a tragedy and anyone who stood on a packed terrace back in the day can empathise but every year this outpouring of grief is getting a bit much.

However we dont mourn any other disaster year on year ie the bradford disaster, those killed in heysel, munich.etc

It's not a case of mourning, This is still news because the story goes on, people are still trying to get the truth, reveal the corruption and identify those responsible and then get those responsible to ace justice.

Bradford = poor maintenence, poor stadium, lit cigarette = accident case closed

Heysel = idiot supporters, wall = accident case closed

Hillsborough = cover up, fight to reveal the truth, corruption = case still open = still in the news

Wow what an incredibly nieve and distasteful thread.

How can you be happy to leave go the fact the authorities, including the police force and then thatcher gov were part of the biggest cover up in British history. Its appalling and has to be fully investigated and individuals brought to justice.

Yes there were many factors nobody can deny that but a policeforce altering statements and a government being compliant in it is not something I am happy to leave go.

As for the idiot who said what difference does the jft96 campaign make. f**k me how blind and stupid can somebody be. The campaign IS the only reason we have found out that policr changed statements, altered notebooks and intimidated witnesses. FFS.

Its not soley about the mistakes the police and authorities made on the day , its about the criminal acts of cover up that followed. Cant believe any football fan would want this to drop until the truth is finally made official and justice is served.

This^^^^^^

Takes a jack post sensibly on a Cardiff City messageboard about the subject.

The reason it's talked about so much is that it was a tragedy at a football match. At that time could easily have been any group of fans. Every team would have fans that got pissed up and for a game of that magnitude, term up without tickets. It would never have got so out of hand if the police had policed the event properly and if people with experience were handling this. The bigger disgrace is once mistakes were made, the extent to which the police who are aupposed to defend justice, covered up what had happened and didn't allow the grieving and long suffering families to know the truth.

No fan should go to a match and not return home. JFT96.

Have to agree. It was a tragedy and anyone who stood on a packed terrace back in the day can empathise but every year this outpouring of grief is getting a bit much.

However we dont mourn any other disaster year on year ie the bradford disaster, those killed in heysel, munich.etc

It's not a case of mourning, This is still news because the story goes on, people are still trying to get the truth, reveal the corruption and identify those responsible and then get those responsible to ace justice.

Bradford = poor maintenence, poor stadium, lit cigarette = accident case closed

Heysel = idiot supporters, wall = accident case closed

Hillsborough = cover up, fight to reveal the truth, corruption = case still open = still in the news

If you think it is because of that, then lets have an inquest about the absoute bollocks that was the Gulf war or maybe Vietnam??.

It is because it is about football and football sells papers, that is all.

Mario, if you look at Liverpools Heysel Memorial site, its quite clear that Liverpool fans caused the deaths of 39 Italians - no such crap as accident ,case closed.

Where's Liverpools justice for the 39 campaign?

Regardless whose to blame cover ups and all that. Many fans died simply by turning up to watch the team they supported just as we all do. If we cannot respect that for a minute or so there is something wrong. I don't like an element of liver pools support the same as every other team in the league but kids died in that disaster and we should be mindful of it.

Everyone knows the police were badly managed that day. What more do they want?. They ask for justice but what justice?. There will be no end to it.

Last year the police admitted alot and there was national outcry, yet as soon as that ended, we heared they were opening up another inquest.

Many injustices have happened over the years, I don't see why this needs national coverage.

People get sent to war every single day for an injustices, yet those families that have lost loved ones have to hear the constant HIllsborough bashing.

Aberfan disaster - 116 children dead, 28 adults - No coverage whatsoever on the anniversary.

There really are some morons on this board, judging by some of the posts you were nowhere near the ground, I was there, and it is not a sight I want to see or hear again.

Wow what an incredibly nieve and distasteful thread.

How can you be happy to leave go the fact the authorities, including the police force and then thatcher gov were part of the biggest cover up in British history. Its appalling and has to be fully investigated and individuals brought to justice.

Yes there were many factors nobody can deny that but a policeforce altering statements and a government being compliant in it is not something I am happy to leave go.

As for the idiot who said what difference does the jft96 campaign make. f**k me how blind and stupid can somebody be. The campaign IS the only reason we have found out that policr changed statements, altered notebooks and intimidated witnesses. FFS.

Its not soley about the mistakes the police and authorities made on the day , its about the criminal acts of cover up that followed. Cant believe any football fan would want this to drop until the truth is finally made official and justice is served.

Well said. It's depressing that people can't respect efforts to right wrongs without feeling the need to compare the merits of events that they are better able to relate to. I suspect a lot of comments here are from people who haven't followed the enquiry and don't get the magnitude of what the police did.

The Iraq & afghan wars happened under Liebour.

If you're bring irrelevant politicians into it.

Wow what an incredibly nieve and distasteful thread.

How can you be happy to leave go the fact the authorities, including the police force and then thatcher gov were part of the biggest cover up in British history. Its appalling and has to be fully investigated and individuals brought to justice.

Yes there were many factors nobody can deny that but a policeforce altering statements and a government being compliant in it is not something I am happy to leave go.

As for the idiot who said what difference does the jft96 campaign make. f**k me how blind and stupid can somebody be. The campaign IS the only reason we have found out that policr changed statements, altered notebooks and intimidated witnesses. FFS.

Its not soley about the mistakes the police and authorities made on the day , its about the criminal acts of cover up that followed. Cant believe any football fan would want this to drop until the truth is finally made official and justice is served.

Well said. It's depressing that people can't respect efforts to right wrongs without feeling the need to compare the merits of events that they are better able to relate to. I suspect a lot of comments here are from people who haven't followed the enquiry and don't get the magnitude of what the police did.

I don't think you should need to know anything about the enquiry or the polices actions just by being human with an empathy for fellow fans and families should be enough for respect

Hillsborough was a terrible event and one that should never have happened and hopefully will never happen again. But Liverpool fans need to realise what they done in Hysel and I'm sure the families if the 39 killed in Hysel would like closure and justice too.

There was no cover up behind Heysel, Bradford or Rememberance Sunday.

Hence Hillsborough coverage continuing.

Liverpool fans are overrated scum.

Some Liverpool fans began the chain of events that led to 96 deaths, and any enquiry failing to acknowledge that, is a cover up in itself.

Must say alltho Hillsborough was a shocking loss of life and badly organised by the authorities.
Liverpool fans who turned up drunk and without tickets allso should hold there head in shame as they allso are to blame.
But what does piss me off about all this is that we here about how Liverpool fans want justice and many charities are set up to rais cash for the families, but never do we here about any money from any of the charities or club its self going to the families of the 39 Italian fans who died due to Liverpool fans rioting in hysel.
Convenient of them to forget that when they make out how hard done by they are.