' GIVE OLE TIME BEFORE WE JUDGE '

I have just voted to give Ole the chance in the Championship. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=139422

When all is said and done, it is unfair that Ole or any manager should be judged using another managers squad, whether or not you believe those players are good enough they are not his players or his choice of players.

That does not detract from any criticism I have for Ole and some of his tactics, he has got certain games very wrong but there have been displays of obvious improvement too.

If anyone is to blame it is the man at the helm Vincent Tan.

Tan does not have the knowledge or the structure in place to deal with matters such as replacing a manager with another one to make the appointment as smooth as possible, but this post is about Ole and not the structure or running of this club.

I have said before that Ole was appointed at the wrong time, that is not Ole's fault so for that reason I believe he should at least have his own pre-season clear out, bring in his own type of players and see what he can do up until at least Christmas in the Championship to see what he is capable of with his own squad and his own stamp on it.

Hopefully this post will also dismiss the theory that all the mods on this board are against Ole as well.

Well said, he has to be given time to build his own squad

Well said, he has to be given time to build his own squad

with whose money ?

i agree i think people forget its 95% not his players and judging by sat comments its plain to see some are not of his liking! lets see what happens by xmas

Majority are against sacking him

100% agree with you carl

Give the man a chance we are going down next season ogs will have HIS squad in place

I have just voted to give Ole the chance in the Championship. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=139422

When all is said and done, it is unfair that Ole or any manager should be judged using another managers squad, whether or not you believe those players are good enough they are not his players or his choice of players.

That does not detract from any criticism I have for Ole and some of his tactics, he has got certain games very wrong but there have been displays of obvious improvement too.

If anyone is to blame it is the man at the helm Vincent Tan.

Tan does not have the knowledge or the structure in place to deal with matters such as replacing a manager with another one to make the appointment as smooth as possible, but this post is about Ole and not the structure or running of this club.

I have said before that Ole was appointed at the wrong time, that is not Ole's fault so for that reason I believe he should at least have his own pre-season clear out, bring in his own type of players and see what he can do up until at least Christmas in the Championship to see what he is capable of with his own squad and his own stamp on it.

Hopefully this post will also dismiss the theory that all the mods on this board are against Ole as well.

It does seem like it Carl with threads upon threads of negative stuff about our current manager being made stickys. Be nice to see more threads supporting our manager as this that post is spot on.

Well, as manager of Molde he bought 44 players in about three years. Had a rich uncle there too. I wish you lot luck with Solskjær. You'll need it.

Well, as manager of Molde he bought 44 players in about three years. Had a rich uncle there too. I wish you lot luck with Solskjær. You'll need it.

What's a rich uncle got to do with it

Just, remember, things could always be worse

http://i.imgur.com/DrZCCJ5.png

Just, remember, things could always be worse

http://i.imgur.com/DrZCCJ5.png

Well said, he has to be given time to build his own squad

with whose money ?

Mine I will sort a bank transfer at the end of the season

i agree i think people forget its 95% not his players and judging by sat comments its plain to see some are not of his liking! lets see what happens by xmas

Well the most noticeable two who did'nt even try on saturday Jones & Zaha are his two players, he's out of his depth & even in the championship i don't think he'll be up to it.

i agree i think people forget its 95% not his players and judging by sat comments its plain to see some are not of his liking! lets see what happens by xmas

Well the most noticeable two who did'nt even try on saturday Jones & Zaha are his two players, he's out of his depth & even in the championship i don't think he'll be up to it.

Jones came here because PO wanted to move back to that area. And most fans are shocked zaha's attitude is so bad. ole has not had enough time judge him fairly after a pre season for gods sake

at last a sensible thread regarding ole and a sticky (for how long though )

No, the club has to cut all ties and start completely afresh with someone who knows how to get out of the championship. It is an uncompromising division, with regularly bottom beating top. A long 46 game campaign with trips to the likes of Barnsley and Doncaster on wet winter nights beckons.

I am sure this has been mentioned before but Molde's previous manager Rossler cut his Football league teeth at Brentford before taking on Wigan and doing a fine job there. Why didn't Tan and his advisors see that was the way to go for Solskaer, and instead look for a manager who knew his way around the PL?

Good post Carl Ole has joined a madhouse so was never going to be a miracle start

No, the club has to cut all ties and start completely afresh with someone who knows how to get out of the championship. It is an uncompromising division, with regularly bottom beating top. A long 46 game campaign with trips to the likes of Barnsley and Doncaster on wet winter nights beckons.

I am sure this has been mentioned before but Molde's previous manager Rossler cut his Football league teeth at Brentford before taking on Wigan and doing a fine job there. Why didn't Tan and his advisors see that was the way to go for Solskaer, and instead look for a manager who knew his way around the PL?

Rossler has never managed in the PL. He managed a bunch of clubs in norway,never won anything. Managed a league one club didn't achieve promotion, at wigan for 5 months he done ok but lets see if they get promoted, they just lost a game and weren't really playing well.
OGS has won something every season with the clubs he had managed so far at man u reserve and in norway. You can see why he a became attractive, several PL clubs saw OGS as a promising manager, cardiff isn't the only club that approached him.
As i said in another thread i think he was the wrong appointment in a relegation battle. But could prove to be a good appointment if allowed to build his own squad and implement his own philosophy.

One of the main arguments for Ole is that he showed the ability to build a strong squad bringing in 30-40 players over 3 years at Molde. And still he managed to not use more money than he gained from player sales. I guess he will do the same in Cardiff. He also got a name that will ensure that some talented players find it attractive to play for him. When he gets a squad of 25 somewhat evenly good players his tinkering style makes more sense.I am not a fan of the way he keeps tinkering with the defense, but you never know...maybe he can improve in this area as well in the Championship.

I hope people have this mind set on Ole because I think some people haven't thought through what they think of the situation with Ole.

If it looked like he had any idea what he was doing id agree. The truth is though he looks so far out of his depth it's frightening. Cut our losses and get rid of say

so far,he hasnt given the fans much to go with..........and its not just the results..if your not getting results its importamt that at least the fans can understand to some degree where your aiming..Jones off Cowie on...is the latest of about a 100 things he has done that just confuse everyone..............the tinkering chart thats been put up....we are 2nd to Man Utd.....and we dont have the wealth of talent they have,or the Champions league to contend with..he doesnt know his best 11..but of more concern is,so far he doesnt seem to have made a single decision on a player not being good enough......by now the 11 should be out of 16 or 17 at the most............im not calling for his head...but its time he gave us something..if not results..a stable team..or one that fights to the death........something..anything

Well done Carl Curtis about time we read a positive thread I mean the clubs situation is bad and we know it but the negativity being posted around this board about Ole is crazy yes he is the man who will manage the club to relegation but is this such a great surprise I think the writing was on the wall last summer when we did not sign any decent players , also who the hell is going to come here and work in this circus also in the Champioship we are all quick to shout about the problems the club has and we have them in abundance but I feel having Ole who is going to want to build his own squad is about the only positive the club has going for it at the moment he is not here for the short term he seems to want to build something that to me bearing in mind the way the whole football club is being run and mistreated is the only excitement that I can get for next season he has made mistakes but with players like ours is that such a shock there shit so lets give the fella a chance to get his own stamp on it then judge and I am sure if its not working out then he will get hounded out .

I am really surprised it's gone like it as even with the fact he has no premiership experience. I would say he deserves time but with each passing bad performance i am starting to believe he's not the man.
The squad is not wholly his but that goes for a lot of managers. What worries me is his tinkering at the back and it shows in the number of sloppy goals were conceding at the moment. The centre backs are never sure who'll be playing beside them.

One of the main arguments for Ole is that he showed the ability to build a strong squad bringing in 30-40 players over 3 years at Molde. And still he managed to not use more money than he gained from player sales. I guess he will do the same in Cardiff. He also got a name that will ensure that some talented players find it attractive to play for him. When he gets a squad of 25 somewhat evenly good players his tinkering style makes more sense.I am not a fan of the way he keeps tinkering with the defense, but you never know...maybe he can improve in this area as well in the Championship.

There in lies a good point. Malky invested heavily in a few players and the squad depth suffered. OGS' style lends itslef to a stronger squad with rotation and adaptability. Because of Malky's flitting of the funds we've not go that.... yet!

I am really surprised it's gone like it as even with the fact he has no premiership experience. I would say he deserves time but with each passing bad performance i am starting to believe he's not the man.
The squad is not wholly his but that goes for a lot of managers. What worries me is his tinkering at the back and it shows in the number of sloppy goals were conceding at the moment. The centre backs are never sure who'll be playing beside them.

Unfortunately I think ole was not picked for his managerial qualities at molde but because of tan and his sons obsession with all things man utd.
Ole and his coaches all ex man utd , three ex man utd youth players and a current man utd player on loan.
I believe whoever had been in charge in January Malky, ole or even glen hoddle that Zaha would have come to the club as he is tans sons favourite player which says everything you need to know about his football knowledge

I am really surprised it's gone like it as even with the fact he has no premiership experience. I would say he deserves time but with each passing bad performance i am starting to believe he's not the man.
The squad is not wholly his but that goes for a lot of managers. What worries me is his tinkering at the back and it shows in the number of sloppy goals were conceding at the moment. The centre backs are never sure who'll be playing beside them.

Unfortunately I think ole was not picked for his managerial qualities at molde but because of tan and his sons obsession with all things man utd.
Ole and his coaches all ex man utd , three ex man utd youth players and a current man utd player on loan.
I believe whoever had been in charge in January Malky, ole or even glen hoddle that Zaha would have come to the club as he is tans sons favourite player which says everything you need to know about his football knowledge

Frightening reading that Steve.

I cant get the image of Tan standing behind Alex Ferguson. Think it was taken at CCS. This Man U obsession that is manifesting its way into our club is disturbing.

Ole doesn't have a clue.