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Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:23 pm

I have been a long term browser of the site and I am truly sickened by the way the fans of Tan have been talking about a club legend recently.

Malky struggled, but the only thing he struggled with was Tan and his overbearing attitude. Left alone to his own devices and I have no doubt in my mind we would be comfortably in the top 12. We were never in the relegation zone under Malks and we were playing effective football. The reds are using him as a scapegoat to let their beloved Tan off the hook.

Malky was the man who took us up in SPITE of Tan, people will do well to remember that. Get some ******* respect.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:00 pm

how come malky started to struggle towards the end of last season? did Tan interfere with malky then?, yeah we played such effective football barely having a shot on target and having to defend for their lives during basically every match, but malky was defensively solid!! what with the second worst defence record in the league, that myth is truly laughable, malky is a great guy but if he didn't have the budget last season I would seriously think we wouldn't of went up, be interesting to see how he does at a new club and I wish him the best, could malky be the next phil brown? or aidy boothroyd who knows

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:02 pm

Boring. There is no such thing as "reds" (Maybe Natman Blue which is ironic considering his name) pretty much everyone wants the blue back but do not want Tan out because they fear for the future of the club.


Not difficult to understand really.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:03 pm

citybluechris wrote:how come malky started to struggle towards the end of last season? did Tan interfere with malky then?, yeah we played such effective football barely having a shot on target and having to defend for their lives during basically every match, but malky was defensively solid!! what with the second worst defence record in the league, that myth is truly laughable, malky is a great guy but if he didn't have the budget last season I would seriously think we wouldn't of went up, be interesting to see how he does at a new club and I wish him the best, could malky be the next phil brown? or aidy boothroyd who knows


He could have gotten us a top 8 place and people like you would still be baying for blood.

I guess he just didn't "fit the mould" of the pre 1992 modern fan who all want foreugn coaches.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:17 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Boring. There is no such thing as "reds" (Maybe Natman Blue which is ironic considering his name) pretty much everyone wants the blue back but do not want Tan out because they fear for the future of the club.


Not difficult to understand really.


its incredibly difficult for some.........for some,being a blue also means love of Malkey and wanting tan deported .. they are of course 3 completely different issues

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:20 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Boring. There is no such thing as "reds" (Maybe Natman Blue which is ironic considering his name) pretty much everyone wants the blue back but do not want Tan out because they fear for the future of the club.


Not difficult to understand really.


I have seen "Cardiff fans" loving the red wearing shirts. Your avatar picture speaks volumes.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:26 pm

HateTheRed wrote:
citybluechris wrote:how come malky started to struggle towards the end of last season? did Tan interfere with malky then?, yeah we played such effective football barely having a shot on target and having to defend for their lives during basically every match, but malky was defensively solid!! what with the second worst defence record in the league, that myth is truly laughable, malky is a great guy but if he didn't have the budget last season I would seriously think we wouldn't of went up, be interesting to see how he does at a new club and I wish him the best, could malky be the next phil brown? or aidy boothroyd who knows


He could have gotten us a top 8 place and people like you would still be baying for blood.

I guess he just didn't "fit the mould" of the pre 1992 modern fan who all want foreugn coaches.


top 8 place? who would we of got points off under malky from the games ole has had to achieve this top 8?
smashed at villa away smashed by palace away, Southampton destroyed us at home in first poxy half hour, struggled for a draw at hull and couldn't finish our dinner at stoke away, malky wouldn't of got us enough points with his style of play he ran out of ideas, same as ole is struggling now our team simply not good enough

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:32 pm

HateTheRed wrote:I have been a long term browser of the site and I am truly sickened by the way the fans of Tan have been talking about a club legend recently.

Malky struggled, but the only thing he struggled with was Tan and his overbearing attitude. Left alone to his own devices and I have no doubt in my mind we would be comfortably in the top 12. We were never in the relegation zone under Malks and we were playing effective football. The reds are using him as a scapegoat to let their beloved Tan off the hook.

Malky was the man who took us up in SPITE of Tan, people will do well to remember that. Get some ******* respect.


in spite of tan?? who's money paid for the players used to get promotion?? effective at what? defense second worst under malky, attack ffs about lowest shots at goal in league is that effective??? :old:

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:37 pm

HateTheRed wrote:I have been a long term browser of the site and I am truly sickened by the way the fans of Tan have been talking about a club legend recently.

Malky struggled, but the only thing he struggled with was Tan and his overbearing attitude. Left alone to his own devices and I have no doubt in my mind we would be comfortably in the top 12. We were never in the relegation zone under Malks and we were playing effective football. The reds are using him as a scapegoat to let their beloved Tan off the hook.

Malky was the man who took us up in SPITE of Tan, people will do well to remember that. Get some ******* respect.


so because i thought malky was not up to it in the epl im a tan lover :laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:37 pm

HateTheRed wrote:I have been a long term browser of the site and I am truly sickened by the way the fans of Tan have been talking about a club legend recently.

Malky struggled, but the only thing he struggled with was Tan and his overbearing attitude. Left alone to his own devices and I have no doubt in my mind we would be comfortably in the top 12. We were never in the relegation zone under Malks and we were playing effective football. The reds are using him as a scapegoat to let their beloved Tan off the hook.

Malky was the man who took us up in SPITE of Tan, people will do well to remember that. Get some ******* respect.


Virtually Spot on, but I reckon we would of been about 12th-14th in the Premier League come May, giving us Premiership Football next season :thumbup:

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:39 pm

HateTheRed wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Boring. There is no such thing as "reds" (Maybe Natman Blue which is ironic considering his name) pretty much everyone wants the blue back but do not want Tan out because they fear for the future of the club.


Not difficult to understand really.


I have seen "Cardiff fans" loving the red wearing shirts. Your avatar picture speaks volumes.



Where? People buy the shirts because they are our current colours. I personally have never bought one nor will I but that's the reality.

Also my avatar has nothing to do with the rebrand.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:41 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
HateTheRed wrote:I have been a long term browser of the site and I am truly sickened by the way the fans of Tan have been talking about a club legend recently.

Malky struggled, but the only thing he struggled with was Tan and his overbearing attitude. Left alone to his own devices and I have no doubt in my mind we would be comfortably in the top 12. We were never in the relegation zone under Malks and we were playing effective football. The reds are using him as a scapegoat to let their beloved Tan off the hook.

Malky was the man who took us up in SPITE of Tan, people will do well to remember that. Get some ******* respect.


Virtually Spot on, but I reckon we would of been about 12th-14th in the Premier League come May, giving us Premiership Football next season :thumbup:


I admire your passion for malky and our club but who would of malky beat to achieve that final finish come end of season?

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:43 pm

citybluechris wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
HateTheRed wrote:I have been a long term browser of the site and I am truly sickened by the way the fans of Tan have been talking about a club legend recently.

Malky struggled, but the only thing he struggled with was Tan and his overbearing attitude. Left alone to his own devices and I have no doubt in my mind we would be comfortably in the top 12. We were never in the relegation zone under Malks and we were playing effective football. The reds are using him as a scapegoat to let their beloved Tan off the hook.

Malky was the man who took us up in SPITE of Tan, people will do well to remember that. Get some ******* respect.


Virtually Spot on, but I reckon we would of been about 12th-14th in the Premier League come May, giving us Premiership Football next season :thumbup:


I admire your passion for malky and our club but who would of malky beat to achieve that final finish come end of season?


I honestly believe under Malky we would of beaten Sunderland, West Ham, Hull and Palace at home and drawn at Swansea and even won at WBA. :thumbup:

We will never know now, but Malky should of been allowed to complete this season at the very least.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:49 pm

Another long term browser who incidentally spouts the obvious agenda. Its getting totally f*cking pathetic. Making up names to back yourself up.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:15 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
citybluechris wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
HateTheRed wrote:I have been a long term browser of the site and I am truly sickened by the way the fans of Tan have been talking about a club legend recently.

Malky struggled, but the only thing he struggled with was Tan and his overbearing attitude. Left alone to his own devices and I have no doubt in my mind we would be comfortably in the top 12. We were never in the relegation zone under Malks and we were playing effective football. The reds are using him as a scapegoat to let their beloved Tan off the hook.

Malky was the man who took us up in SPITE of Tan, people will do well to remember that. Get some ******* respect.


Virtually Spot on, but I reckon we would of been about 12th-14th in the Premier League come May, giving us Premiership Football next season :thumbup:


I admire your passion for malky and our club but who would of malky beat to achieve that final finish come end of season?


I honestly believe under Malky we would of beaten Sunderland, West Ham, Hull and Palace at home and drawn at Swansea and even won at WBA. :thumbup:

We will never know now, but Malky should of been allowed to complete this season at the very least.


we reverted back to malky way at sunderland under kerslake, I think we would of drawn with westham and hull at home but would of lost to palace and Swansea and draw with wba but its all guess work nobody will know for sure, palace beat Chelsea who would of thought that? we beat man city who would of thought that? football is a funny game and it keeps changing for better or for worse

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:38 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
citybluechris wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
HateTheRed wrote:I have been a long term browser of the site and I am truly sickened by the way the fans of Tan have been talking about a club legend recently.

Malky struggled, but the only thing he struggled with was Tan and his overbearing attitude. Left alone to his own devices and I have no doubt in my mind we would be comfortably in the top 12. We were never in the relegation zone under Malks and we were playing effective football. The reds are using him as a scapegoat to let their beloved Tan off the hook.

Malky was the man who took us up in SPITE of Tan, people will do well to remember that. Get some ******* respect.


Virtually Spot on, but I reckon we would of been about 12th-14th in the Premier League come May, giving us Premiership Football next season :thumbup:


I admire your passion for malky and our club but who would of malky beat to achieve that final finish come end of season?


I honestly believe under Malky we would of beaten Sunderland, West Ham, Hull and Palace at home and drawn at Swansea and even won at WBA. :thumbup:

We will never know now, but Malky should of been allowed to complete this season at the very least.


What like we won our last ten games of the champ isit? You are obviously on a wind up.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:41 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Another long term browser who incidentally spouts the obvious agenda. Its getting totally f*cking pathetic. Making up names to back yourself up.


yes even use similar language ffs he as gone why cant people except it? more chance of elvis playing for city than him keeping us up!!!! :old:

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:44 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Another long term browser who incidentally spouts the obvious agenda. Its getting totally f*cking pathetic. Making up names to back yourself up.

Well it certainly is not me, I say what I believe, I dont need back up Craig :thumbup:

Have u ever thought many other City fans liked and believed in Malky.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:49 pm

Delusional :lol:

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:50 pm

Kenfig Blue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
citybluechris wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
HateTheRed wrote:I have been a long term browser of the site and I am truly sickened by the way the fans of Tan have been talking about a club legend recently.

Malky struggled, but the only thing he struggled with was Tan and his overbearing attitude. Left alone to his own devices and I have no doubt in my mind we would be comfortably in the top 12. We were never in the relegation zone under Malks and we were playing effective football. The reds are using him as a scapegoat to let their beloved Tan off the hook.

Malky was the man who took us up in SPITE of Tan, people will do well to remember that. Get some ******* respect.


Virtually Spot on, but I reckon we would of been about 12th-14th in the Premier League come May, giving us Premiership Football next season :thumbup:


I admire your passion for malky and our club but who would of malky beat to achieve that final finish come end of season?


I honestly believe under Malky we would of beaten Sunderland, West Ham, Hull and Palace at home and drawn at Swansea and even won at WBA. :thumbup:

We will never know now, but Malky should of been allowed to complete this season at the very least.


What like we won our last ten games of the champ isit? You are obviously on a wind up.



We beat Man City,the Jacks,Fulham,WBA, We drew with teams like Man United and Everton etc before Mad man Tan got involved.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:52 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
citybluechris wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
HateTheRed wrote:I have been a long term browser of the site and I am truly sickened by the way the fans of Tan have been talking about a club legend recently.

Malky struggled, but the only thing he struggled with was Tan and his overbearing attitude. Left alone to his own devices and I have no doubt in my mind we would be comfortably in the top 12. We were never in the relegation zone under Malks and we were playing effective football. The reds are using him as a scapegoat to let their beloved Tan off the hook.

Malky was the man who took us up in SPITE of Tan, people will do well to remember that. Get some ******* respect.


Virtually Spot on, but I reckon we would of been about 12th-14th in the Premier League come May, giving us Premiership Football next season :thumbup:


I admire your passion for malky and our club but who would of malky beat to achieve that final finish come end of season?


I honestly believe under Malky we would of beaten Sunderland, West Ham, Hull and Palace at home and drawn at Swansea and even won at WBA. :thumbup:

We will never know now, but Malky should of been allowed to complete this season at the very least.


What like we won our last ten games of the champ isit? You are obviously on a wind up.



We beat Man City,the Jacks,Fulham,WBA, We drew with teams like Man United and Everton etc before Mad man Tan got involved.


So what makes you think we would of won all those games in the 2nd half of the season then? Tan wasn't going anywhere.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:50 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Another long term browser who incidentally spouts the obvious agenda. Its getting totally f*cking pathetic. Making up names to back yourself up.


More fans thank you think loved Malky and knew that he loved the club just as much back. You may live in a perfect red bubble but the majority of us don't.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:01 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
citybluechris wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
HateTheRed wrote:I have been a long term browser of the site and I am truly sickened by the way the fans of Tan have been talking about a club legend recently.

Malky struggled, but the only thing he struggled with was Tan and his overbearing attitude. Left alone to his own devices and I have no doubt in my mind we would be comfortably in the top 12. We were never in the relegation zone under Malks and we were playing effective football. The reds are using him as a scapegoat to let their beloved Tan off the hook.

Malky was the man who took us up in SPITE of Tan, people will do well to remember that. Get some ******* respect.


Virtually Spot on, but I reckon we would of been about 12th-14th in the Premier League come May, giving us Premiership Football next season :thumbup:


I admire your passion for malky and our club but who would of malky beat to achieve that final finish come end of season?


I honestly believe under Malky we would of beaten Sunderland, West Ham, Hull and Palace at home and drawn at Swansea and even won at WBA. :thumbup:

We will never know now, but Malky should of been allowed to complete this season at the very least.


What like we won our last ten games of the champ isit? You are obviously on a wind up.



We beat Man City,the Jacks,Fulham,WBA, We drew with teams like Man United and Everton etc before Mad man Tan got involved.



When did Tan get involved then?

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:20 pm

Why the continued character assassination of a decent manager. Forget the chin rubbing stat / percentage / win ratio nonsense for a minute and agree that he served us well, gave us hard working teams we could all be proud of and empathise with. Great p.r man and represented our club with dignity. Amid a sea of shit he gave people like me a raft to cling to. Our fan base has become obsessed with success and recognition, we want top ten and great football..we are Cardiff ffs, year 1 in prem, no divine right to be here ...I was looking forward to malky giving it his best go, but alas he didn't get that. Even had he failed so what ? He deserved the chance. We don't need a scapegoat just to be honest with ourselves that relegation was likely. The only shame was that we gave up the only chance we had , stability and continuity . Cheers Malky, good man.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:55 am

Looking at Malky's style is like Palace under Pulis, but with less attacking threat.

Malky's style was determined by him being a defender first and also after the 5-4 defeat last season against Charlton.

Prior to that game, he played a fairly neutral attacking/defensive style of play.

The 14 games prior to Charlton we conceded more than 2 goals 3 times.

The 31 games after that game we did not concede more than 2 goals in any further games.

The more cautious approach immediately after the Charlton game, resulted in 12 wins, 3 draws and 1 loss.

It was this set of results that led to Malky to believe the cautious, ultra defensive style was his most effective style of play.

Malky finished off last season with 4 wins, EIGHT draws and 3 defeats in the last 15 games. That is ultra cautious.

Malky's style in the PL was a continuation, which got the results at Championship level, but with very little attacking bite, Malky's tactics were being found out in PL.

The strength of Malky's game was patience and the ability to grind out points.

Sadly this strength has been lost under OGS.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:05 am

Pat Turd wrote:Why the continued character assassination of a decent manager. Forget the chin rubbing stat / percentage / win ratio nonsense for a minute and agree that he served us well, gave us hard working teams we could all be proud of and empathise with. Great p.r man and represented our club with dignity. Amid a sea of shit he gave people like me a raft to cling to. Our fan base has become obsessed with success and recognition, we want top ten and great football..we are Cardiff ffs, year 1 in prem, no divine right to be here ...I was looking forward to malky giving it his best go, but alas he didn't get that. Even had he failed so what ? He deserved the chance. We don't need a scapegoat just to be honest with ourselves that relegation was likely. The only shame was that we gave up the only chance we had , stability and continuity . Cheers Malky, good man.


Totally agree with this post. Those slagging off Malky are just as clueless as those who said Jones did nothing for us. Both managers played their part in taking the club forward but both also had their flaws.

I was a big Malky fan. I know certain players didn't like the way he treated them but that's a working life. There are people that just don't work well together. There's also all the hearsay and rumours about who is more to blame over transfers etc him or Tan I work with facts when it comes to football and the facts for Malky were...

- He guided us to the Capital One Cup final and playoffs on a limited budget.
- When given money he won the Championship title.
- When he was sacked we were above the relegation zone having beaten some big teams and won the derby match versus Swansea.
- He had a group of players that worked their socks off for him and largely remained disciplined.
- He made us fans believe again after a couple of years of disillusionment under Jones.

Malky is gone. I think it's pathetic that people take swipes at him after he's gone when I saw the large majority of people backing him to the hilt until he left. It's a lot of the same people who were applauding Solskjaer's appointment and are now slating Solskjaer.

The time is now and now is all that matters. I really hope Solskjaer turns it around for us but I just think he's been rushed into a situation where his inexperience is showing. If we want success under Solskjaer we will have to wait 3-4 years and possibly a second relegation in my opinion. Unfortunately, our fans and board don't have that patience.

Malky should not be the scapegoat for our plight right now. That's just ridiculous. There's more than one person accountable for our season.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:23 am

HateTheRed wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Another long term browser who incidentally spouts the obvious agenda. Its getting totally f*cking pathetic. Making up names to back yourself up.


More fans thank you think loved Malky and knew that he loved the club just as much back. You may live in a perfect red bubble but the majority of us don't.

Loved the club back....dont make me laugh, he was paid to do a job. End of story. This nonsense that he loved the club is such garbage

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:06 am

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Boring. There is no such thing as "reds" (Maybe Natman Blue which is ironic considering his name) pretty much everyone wants the blue back but do not want Tan out because they fear for the future of the club.


Not difficult to understand really.

You presume wrong. I think you will find that Tan has now crossed the line with the majority of the supporters who now want him gone. It has got to a stage where there is now little risk to the fans because if Tan remains then we have nothing left of our club anyway. It is better to force him out with our heads held high and take our chances with the consequences rather than see our club dismantled by Tan and watch our club completely die whilst we watch and let it happen.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:08 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
HateTheRed wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Another long term browser who incidentally spouts the obvious agenda. Its getting totally f*cking pathetic. Making up names to back yourself up.


More fans thank you think loved Malky and knew that he loved the club just as much back. You may live in a perfect red bubble but the majority of us don't.

Loved the club back....dont make me laugh, he was paid to do a job. End of story. This nonsense that he loved the club is such garbage

He loved the fans though Craig. Anyone spending time in his company could clearly see that.

Re: Malky the scapegoat

Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:59 pm

Apart from his great personality he is a nothing manager.

He's a scapegoat because he has milked this club dry of 50 million.