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Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:15 pm

Edited my mistake for making question 1 & 2 similar, I went to change it, but members had already replied.
" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "
Lets All be honest then
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
2. The current results?
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:17 pm
1. No one solely, Ole doesn't have the right players at his disposal
2. The players
3. Malky, Tan, Ole
4. Tan
5.Yes
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:28 pm
Forever Blue wrote:" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "
Lets All be honest then
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
Ole and Tan for appointing him2. The current results?
Ole and Tan for appointing him3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
NO4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
Owners 5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
Get rid
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:29 pm
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
Mixture of Tan, Dalman and OGS. Ultimately everything goes back to Tan’s terrible treatment of Mackay and the shocking appointment of OGS. Having said that OGS looks totally out of his depth
2. The current results?
OGS. As much as I despise Tan he’s not to blame to losing by an aggregate score of 9-0 in 3 home games against Hull, West Ham and Palace. That’s beyond pathetic and in my opinion is solely down to the manager
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
Not in my opinion, we made our feelings clear that we wanted Malky to stay, would we still have gone down with Malky here…possibly but we’d have more points than we do now, would be far better organised and would have a hope of staying up
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
All, but ultimately the worst players have been the ones OGS signed so he and Tan in my opinion
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
New manager, OGS will not have a clue how to set a team up for the championship.
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:30 pm
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing? OGS
2. The current results?OGS
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?Partly
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them? all of them
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?No
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:30 pm
1. Currently, Ole. He is the one naming the tactics and the team. Malky has nothing to do with the way were playing now.
2. Players showing lack of effort, Ole for the tactics
3. Partly, too many people think we have the divine right for Prem football and can't understand that we won't be untouchable every game. People have got too used to being one of the top teams.
4. All of them. Poor signings in both windows, needless interference from Tan and impatient fans.
5. Ask again in 5 games time. Ole needs to show he's found his best 11 and learn from his tactical mistakes. If we go down with less than 30 points his position needs to be looked at
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:31 pm
We all know who the blame lies with Annis his name is Vincent Tan and he is ripping this club apart its a slow death of a once amazing football club I can handle shit players shit managers and shit league positions but I cant handle money grabbing control freak killing my club this is ALL his fault nobody else needs to be blamed
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:34 pm
1. Ole - he was never the man for a relegation scrap 2. Ole and the players equally 3. Fans have been great this season 4. Tan got us relegated by sacking malky 5.ole isnt the guy for the survival fight but id like to see how he sets us up next season to be an attacking side
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:37 pm
Forever Blue wrote:" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "
Lets All be honest then
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
Tan and his hangers on who know nothing about football2. The current results?
OGS is either stupid or he's not picking the team!!3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
Most won;t like this but yes, all this blue/red was bound to affect the club, players, staff, manager etc4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
ALL, but lets be honest, the season was overy once the real meddling started and Malky left 5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
If he stays he needs to bomb out at least 6-8 who are just not good enough and he needs to tell Tan and his hangers on to stay out of the dressing room and to stop telling OGS who is playing!
Last edited by arri potta on Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:38 pm
Forever Blue wrote:" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "
Lets All be honest then
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
THE PLAYERS/MALKY IF HE BROUGHT IN MORE DECENT PLAYERS WE WOULDNT LOOK AS BAD!2. The current results?
THE TEAM/PLAYERS AND OGS FOR SWAPPING THE TEAM EVERY WEEK.
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
DO WE HAVE ANY AFFECT HOW THE PLAYERS PLAY? NO!4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
MANAGERS/TAN AND PLAYERS 5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
ID KEEP HIM FOR NOW
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:38 pm
Forever Blue wrote:" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "
Lets All be honest then
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
2. The current results?
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
1. I blame Ole for the way we are currently playing, a more attractive style of football is one thing, not coaching our players or setting us up correctly to stop conceding goals everytime we are attacked is quite another.
2. Ole, see answer 1
3. Partly, a more united fanbase MIGHT have spurred the players on somewhat, fans encourging rather than protesting, that being said what choice did we have in this rebrand situation.
4. Overall youve gotta blame the mangerial failings for our seasons bad form, but VT must shoulder some responsibility, if he had not forced MM out things may have been different. That being said if it was my money I would have been livid at the Cornelius debacle. Both management and the board are to blame then I guess.
5..Axe Ole now, Id rather take a man more experienced, if Ole lacked knowledge of how to get a result in the Prem, god help him in the good old Championship, its brutal down there.
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:38 pm
Forever Blue wrote:" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "
Lets All be honest then
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
Ole
2. The current results?
Players
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
Yes but not all.
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
Buck stops with the owner.
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
Don't see the point of change based on current squad and results.
He needs time to get his team together and then and only then can we really judge him.
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:43 pm
Forever Blue wrote:" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "
Lets All be honest then
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing? Malky/Ole
2. The current results? Malky/Ole
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures? Yes, for the negativity wanting tan out and all the blue bdemo's etc - it has to have a negative effect on the team
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them? All 3
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
Change - Ole seems out of his depth but I won't be against giving him a preseason and build his own squad - I'm undecided on this one afterall this is Malkys team
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:46 pm
Forever Blue wrote:" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "
Lets All be honest then
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
OGS and to some extent, the Players themselves
2. The current results?
As above
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
No, not at all. Even with off field troubles, we've got fully behind the Team
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
Dalman and Tan sacked Malky and brought in OGS. Shit rolls downhill and they're top of that
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
would like to see an experienced Premier League Manager but at the same time, not a fan of sacking after sacking.
Ole needs time
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:48 pm
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
Can't single anyone out, we're all to blame
2. The current results?
Players, at the end of the day its down to their performance on the pitch
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
Partly, we should have been cheering our players on instead of constantly protesting, im all for getting our colours back but we haven't been supporting the team the way we should have
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
All 3, Tan for interfering and destabilizing the club, Malky for his terrible transfers and players for their overall performance on the pitch.
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
ole should be given a chance in the championship with a full transfer window and a pre season at his disposal to build HIS squad its only fair that he gets a full season to really prove himself, only then will I properly judge him.
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:57 pm
1. Ole and the players.
2. Ole and the players.
3. Possibly. Chanting anti-rebrand is fine but there isn't much support for the players unless we're away which has to have some effect.
4. All of them
5. I was for him going on Saturday since I've cooled down and got some perspective on it and thought it is best to give him until Christmas after he has had a pre-season where he can shift the deadwood and bring his own players in. Struggling around Christmas - get rid.
Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:57 pm
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing? - Ole.....too much tinkering!
2. The current results? - Everyone.....Ole/Malky/Tan
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures? - No
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them? - Tan.....he started the rot!
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season? - Yes, give him 10 games in the championship to see if he can actually cut it
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:01 pm
All stems right back to the start of the season when we spent a fortune on players who were not good enough at this level. Had a reasonable budget, but hardly improved the team beyond what we already had in the championship.
Our most consistent players this season were already at the club last season. We have a squad who are championship level players, and that's why they will be playing in the championship next season(Marshall & Caulker the possible exceptions)
Think we need a manager with more experience if we are to reach the play offs next season.
Can't blame the supporters for the turmoil at the club, but there are a few players who need to take a long hard look at themselves, and consider whether they really gave 100% effort in every match they played.
There are a few who are interested only in their monthly pay packet rather than any real desire to run themselves into the ground for the good of the club, and we saw a couple demonstrate that perfectly on Saturday.
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:11 pm
1, Ole
2, team selections and player commitment
3, I think yes partially
4, owners
5, why keep him to fetch more Norwegian players?
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:11 pm
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
The blame for how we are currently playing falls firmly on Ole. His constant changes to our lineup is creating complete chaos to our team and it is showing with how clueless our performances are. Some blame can be put on Kenwyne Jones and Zaha's performances but yet again these were Ole's signings.
2. The current results?
The current results are a product of our current performances so see the above answer.
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
I suppose atmosphere could have been better on times but overall I don't see how any blame can be put on the fans for this seasons failings.
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
If I had to list them in order of most at fault to least at fault my list would be:- Vincent Tan, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Malky Mackay and the players. Vincent Tan is mainly to blame for the negativity he hangs over the club and for the sacking of Mackay. Ole is next at fault for his clueless selections, clueless tactics and lack of visible leadership skills. Mackay next at fault due to some poor summer transfer dealings and finally some of the players for not putting in 100% each game. (Although that is only very few players and I think the vast majority have gave it their all.)
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
I am undecided on this at the moment. So far I don't think he has given us any reason to keep him but I do believe in stability and giving managers a chance. I think I will see out the remaining games and make a decision then.
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:19 pm
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
The present manager; he's inexperienced at this level and naive tactically. Too much changing of formation and personnel prevents continuity.
2. The current results?
The present manager; he's inexperienced at this level and naive tactically. Too much changing of formation and personnel prevents continuity. I believe the players are confused over their roles and the shambles surrounding the Club has worn them down mentally.
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
100% no. The fans have been far too patient with the present regime under Mr Tan. In fact all, too many could see, were dollar signs. Under Tan the club's identity and heritage has been raped; the heart has been ripped out of the club and civil war has been witnessed on the terraces. The club knew who the bully-boys were from the ill-fated Municipal Club meeting and the owner chose to do nothing. The Club is rotten from the top-down. Again, sadly, there are some good people there but either they have been sacked or are leaving. I have waited ver 50 years for this top flight football and what a mess it all has been. My only saving hope is that as these last 2 years we have witnessed Tan's KL Dragons, next season we will be once again Cardiff City FC with all that entails.
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
Everyone share some blame but 95% of the blame MUST lay at the top and Mr Tan. I said 3 years ago when Tan took over that because of his ocultic background all he would do is to sow discord and division. Sadly I have been proved correct.
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
No. However I have absolutely no confidence in the present regime in knowing a football manager from the back-end of a circus horse.
StT.
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:21 pm
1.ole, players, tan 2. All. 3. Partly, instead of getting behind team only song sang with passion is'' always be blue' 4. All 5. Yes
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:26 pm
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
The manager
2. The current results?
The manager and players
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
No
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
Mostley down to the owners bad decisions
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
Change him because he is out of his depth
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:28 pm
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
the players most of them look like they have no bottle and heartless
2. The current results?
ole has changed the team to much so him i supose
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
yes and no the divide in the fans hasnt helped thats for sure but we have been superb at times
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
tans got nothing to do with the results its the manager and players responsibility
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
give him another year if he dont sign any leftback in close season then get rid lol
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:28 pm
1. OGS
2. OGS
3. A little, our support particually at home has been directed towards tan rather than behind the team at key times
4. All of them
5. Change of Manager Defo (OGS will not be able to cope in the Championship)
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:31 pm
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing? OLE
2. The current results? PLAYERS/OLE
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures? NOT REALLY THE FANS CAN ONLY GO ALONG WITH WHAT THE CLUB DECIDES
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them? OWNER
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season? CHANGE
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:31 pm
Forever Blue wrote:" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "
Lets All be honest then
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing? Ole and the players
2. The current results? Ole and the players
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures? Some blame especially at home
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them? All of them
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
Not decided yet. After the Everton game I thought he was ok. But after these last two games, I don't know. All on these last couple of games if we are still running around like headless chickens. Then he needs to go. If we improve then we should give him a summer transfer window and see where we are at the international break in Oct/Nov
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:32 pm
Forever Blue wrote:" 5 QUESTIONS FOR EVERYONE TO ANSWER PLEASE HONESTLY "
Lets All be honest then
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
Overall Tan but before the Palace game we were playing well which I think is down to Ole's tactics2. The current results?
Playing difficult teams and the players, mostly the ones who aren't bothered about City and we're just another club to them3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
At times we haven't been vocal enough but generally no4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
All, mainly owner but if the players aren't playing well then some of that comes down to the manager 5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
Stick with Ole, give him time but if it begins to look like we'll do a Wolves then bring in a manager with championship experience
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:33 pm
1. Who do you all blame for the way we are currently playing?
Ole - he is too inexperienced at this level and shows naivety, but also TAN for appointing him, Malky should have had at least the whole season...Ole's record is far worse!! the way in which we have succumbed and accepted defeats reminds me of the end of Dave Jones' reign - when he didn't have a clue about what to do...I like ole's braveness in making changes during a game but this CLEARLY isn't being communicated to the players pre match in terms of 'what may happen' - leaving the players without direction/understanding of his plans...
2. The current results?
Ole - He brought in 7 players and has tinkered with the team too much at crucial times but some of the players have been very poor too - Caulker, Medel and Marshall have had outstanding seasons evrerybody else has been mediocre.
3. Are the fans responsible for any of this seasons failures?
Yes in part, those that gleefully accepted the RED and were sucked in by Tan's false promises to covert debt to equity and even worse those that booed servants like Peter WHittingham/Kev McNaughton want shooting!!! There is a division within the fan base that will take time to heal
4.The Season over all, is it the owners fault or managers or players or all of them?
The accountability lies with TAN - his club and he tinkered with it so much and sought the off field publicity and refused to talk to the fans and worse still tried to interfere with team affairs. How could he blame Malky for poor transfers (ok there were 2 in Brayford and Cornelius) but then allow Ole to sign SEVEN! when all bar one (Daehli) have been appalling - Jones, Fabio, Zaha - all SHITE!!!
5. And Finally Do you want to keep our current manager or a change of manager for next season?
I think we should change manager in the summer irrespective of whether we pull off the unlikely miracle - Ole is not currently good enough to manage in the prem (on a budget) or deal with the harder challenge of getting us back up...If the club has any sense we'd be breaking the bank to get Tony Pulis - or (in cloud cuckoo land) get Malky back...
Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:35 pm
1, players
2, players
3, no
4, all
5, yes.
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