Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:46 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:54 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:55 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:06 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:08 pm
blue lagoon wrote:Blame the malky out brigade. Be careful what you wish for????? We got ole,ole
Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:17 pm
darboy wrote:It would not have been pretty but I am convinced malky would have got the points to make us safe.
Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:32 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:44 pm
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Why do people say this but not back it up with their thoughts as to why they think it? I dislike using stats (because they are easily manipulated to suit someone's argument) but nearly every one of them point to Malky leading us down.
Awful defence, poor scoring record, amount of chances created against us, amount of saves Marshall had to make, amount of chances we created, away form etc are all awful to look at.
It is easy to say Malky would have kept us up because Ole is failing, how many of you would be so outraged and of the opinion MM would have kept us up if say we were 5/6 points clear of the relegation zone?
Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:48 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:52 pm
TRose69 wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Why do people say this but not back it up with their thoughts as to why they think it? I dislike using stats (because they are easily manipulated to suit someone's argument) but nearly every one of them point to Malky leading us down.
Awful defence, poor scoring record, amount of chances created against us, amount of saves Marshall had to make, amount of chances we created, away form etc are all awful to look at.
It is easy to say Malky would have kept us up because Ole is failing, how many of you would be so outraged and of the opinion MM would have kept us up if say we were 5/6 points clear of the relegation zone?
It's a hypothetical situation as he is no longer our manager so I don't need to use facts to back up my opinion
But I think he would have kept us up BECAUSE he had a professional setup, the players have 100% into each game, although the style of football had a lot to be desired we always felt that we could grind out some sort of result
As I said in the first post - the Malky vs Ole discussion has gone on for too long and I think that as fans we need to move on
Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:53 pm
markeMark wrote:Whoever was in charge would still have a team playing in the premier league with championship quality players. There is no getting away from the fact that this team is not good enough for Premier league football, and we are not much stronger than last season despite all the money spent on new players.
Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:07 pm
wez1927 wrote:markeMark wrote:Whoever was in charge would still have a team playing in the premier league with championship quality players. There is no getting away from the fact that this team is not good enough for Premier league football, and we are not much stronger than last season despite all the money spent on new players.
Totally agree we've spent a lot of money on average players
Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:08 pm
wez1927 wrote:markeMark wrote:Whoever was in charge would still have a team playing in the premier league with championship quality players. There is no getting away from the fact that this team is not good enough for Premier league football, and we are not much stronger than last season despite all the money spent on new players.
Totally agree we've spent a lot of money on average players
Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:09 pm
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:TRose69 wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Why do people say this but not back it up with their thoughts as to why they think it? I dislike using stats (because they are easily manipulated to suit someone's argument) but nearly every one of them point to Malky leading us down.
Awful defence, poor scoring record, amount of chances created against us, amount of saves Marshall had to make, amount of chances we created, away form etc are all awful to look at.
It is easy to say Malky would have kept us up because Ole is failing, how many of you would be so outraged and of the opinion MM would have kept us up if say we were 5/6 points clear of the relegation zone?
It's a hypothetical situation as he is no longer our manager so I don't need to use facts to back up my opinion
But I think he would have kept us up BECAUSE he had a professional setup, the players have 100% into each game, although the style of football had a lot to be desired we always felt that we could grind out some sort of result
As I said in the first post - the Malky vs Ole discussion has gone on for too long and I think that as fans we need to move on
I didn't say facts I said reasons.
Having work rate alone isn't good enough to stay up, you need two or three players who could produce a bit of quality to compensate that ethic otherwise you're just going to sit back all game and hope that you get a lucky set piece goal and then see the game out and sadly we didn't have that. Which is why I think we would have gone down regardless.
Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:10 pm
Natman Blue wrote:darboy wrote:It would not have been pretty but I am convinced malky would have got the points to make us safe.
His points average was 0.94 per game, still relelgation from!
Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:17 pm
TripleD wrote:Natman Blue wrote:darboy wrote:It would not have been pretty but I am convinced malky would have got the points to make us safe.
His points average was 0.94 per game, still relelgation from!
35.72 points over a season..round that up to 36 and that was us safe.
Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:21 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:25 pm
Natman Blue wrote:TripleD wrote:Natman Blue wrote:darboy wrote:It would not have been pretty but I am convinced malky would have got the points to make us safe.
His points average was 0.94 per game, still relelgation from!
35.72 points over a season..round that up to 36 and that was us safe.
I'm sure Radio Wales came out with a different points total than that. I worked that figure out too mind!
Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:38 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:49 pm
phildavies wrote:Should have got Pulis!
Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:49 pm
TripleD wrote:Natman Blue wrote:darboy wrote:It would not have been pretty but I am convinced malky would have got the points to make us safe.
His points average was 0.94 per game, still relelgation from!
35.72 points over a season..round that up to 36 and that was us safe.
Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:09 pm
TRose69 wrote:phildavies wrote:Should have got Pulis!
Pulis wouldn't have come to us
He got enough shit at stoke - why would he come to our shambles of a club
We arnt a very attractive club for anyone at the moment
Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:10 pm