Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:12 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:19 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:28 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:47 pm
TheRedBluebird wrote:No it was wasn't worth it and by god it has been the worst experience of my life! As for you saying why couldn't we see what most non city fans could I think it's easier for an outsider to see what's going on than ye insiders in my opinion.
As for a new set of players I agree with the debt we gonna be in we need to ship players like caulker, Medel, fabio cause no doubt their wages are through the roof. I would say get rid of Bellamy to but I think he retire this season. Based on ole signings this season I can't see him signing decent championship players.
As for the chairman and owner I really hope from the bottom of my heart they just get up and go next season. They must know their the reason the club is like it is and the way the fans are turning on players is their fault aswell.
But all us Cardiff fans can do is keep as much faith as we got left and pray that out club can get back to the way we were.
Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:59 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:21 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:38 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:This is a post laced with the aroma of coffee and strong smelling salts rather than a sharp tongue.
It is quite ironic that in a few shirt weeks you will be back in the same place where you guys allowed Tan to start this crazy path of rebranding and wild spending. You will still be clad in red, your fan base will still be split, your debts will have tripled and your attendances shrunk (judging by renewals of only 12,000).
So was it worth it? Surely the answer to that is no. But why couldnt you see what most other non city fans saw?
I think this is down to a fans attitude unique to your club. There is an insatiable appetite to be seen as a big club, best team in wales etc etc and this attitude and kudos craving has seen you mortgage your club and herritage on a whim for short term glamour.
You need a complete overhaul. Players, chairman, fans outlook, club ethos - everything needs to change. First of all this "big club" bollocks that has been spouted for so long needs to go as it is your main weakness. As soon as someone comes in and panders to that then you are sold and will give them the keys to the club (see Hammam, Riddler and Tan for details). Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.... Fool me three times and questions really need to be asked about your sanity.
You need to be comfotable in your own skin. A modest club from south wales with a small hardcore following and a largely irrelevant past in terms of footballing pedigree. This may be hard for many to accept but its true, and this pretence and desire to be something else is killing your club from within.
You need to build slowly, develop the club and live within your means - and then in turn grow within your means. This boom or bust gambling with money the club cannot afford is just nonsense and will get you nowhere. You need to be self sufficient and success needs to be steady and sustainable.
This is your opportunity for a turning point and a change - can you do it is the question.
Ill probably come in for abuse as usual but it will be interesting to bump this in a couple of seasons time. As CantonMagic and various incarnations of Roathie - again all I can say is ive tried to twll you whats what. You can lead the horse to water but you cant make it drink.
Good luck.
Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:46 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:05 pm
soulofthesea wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:This is a post laced with the aroma of coffee and strong smelling salts rather than a sharp tongue.
It is quite ironic that in a few shirt weeks you will be back in the same place where you guys allowed Tan to start this crazy path of rebranding and wild spending. You will still be clad in red, your fan base will still be split, your debts will have tripled and your attendances shrunk (judging by renewals of only 12,000).
So was it worth it? Surely the answer to that is no. But why couldnt you see what most other non city fans saw?
I think this is down to a fans attitude unique to your club. There is an insatiable appetite to be seen as a big club, best team in wales etc etc and this attitude and kudos craving has seen you mortgage your club and herritage on a whim for short term glamour.
You need a complete overhaul. Players, chairman, fans outlook, club ethos - everything needs to change. First of all this "big club" bollocks that has been spouted for so long needs to go as it is your main weakness. As soon as someone comes in and panders to that then you are sold and will give them the keys to the club (see Hammam, Riddler and Tan for details). Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.... Fool me three times and questions really need to be asked about your sanity.
You need to be comfotable in your own skin. A modest club from south wales with a small hardcore following and a largely irrelevant past in terms of footballing pedigree. This may be hard for many to accept but its true, and this pretence and desire to be something else is killing your club from within.
You need to build slowly, develop the club and live within your means - and then in turn grow within your means. This boom or bust gambling with money the club cannot afford is just nonsense and will get you nowhere. You need to be self sufficient and success needs to be steady and sustainable.
This is your opportunity for a turning point and a change - can you do it is the question.
Ill probably come in for abuse as usual but it will be interesting to bump this in a couple of seasons time. As CantonMagic and various incarnations of Roathie - again all I can say is ive tried to twll you whats what. You can lead the horse to water but you cant make it drink.
Good luck.
another bitter petty post with feeble attempts to hide the chip..........no we have a catchment area 2nd to none..the potential is just potential but its massive.......you know this..hate it..dont miss a trick to attempt to belittle it..but it doesnt go away does it.........was it worth it?..
could ask you the same........its not like your finishing top half this century is it......you lose far more than you win and are the smallest club in the division sort of a modern day Wimbledon..
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:17 pm
PremierJacks wrote: With such a massive catchment area, why aren't you selling out?
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:19 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:PremierJacks wrote: With such a massive catchment area, why aren't you selling out?
We are.
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:20 pm
PremierJacks wrote:soulofthesea wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:This is a post laced with the aroma of coffee and strong smelling salts rather than a sharp tongue.
It is quite ironic that in a few shirt weeks you will be back in the same place where you guys allowed Tan to start this crazy path of rebranding and wild spending. You will still be clad in red, your fan base will still be split, your debts will have tripled and your attendances shrunk (judging by renewals of only 12,000).
So was it worth it? Surely the answer to that is no. But why couldnt you see what most other non city fans saw?
I think this is down to a fans attitude unique to your club. There is an insatiable appetite to be seen as a big club, best team in wales etc etc and this attitude and kudos craving has seen you mortgage your club and herritage on a whim for short term glamour.
You need a complete overhaul. Players, chairman, fans outlook, club ethos - everything needs to change. First of all this "big club" bollocks that has been spouted for so long needs to go as it is your main weakness. As soon as someone comes in and panders to that then you are sold and will give them the keys to the club (see Hammam, Riddler and Tan for details). Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.... Fool me three times and questions really need to be asked about your sanity.
You need to be comfotable in your own skin. A modest club from south wales with a small hardcore following and a largely irrelevant past in terms of footballing pedigree. This may be hard for many to accept but its true, and this pretence and desire to be something else is killing your club from within.
You need to build slowly, develop the club and live within your means - and then in turn grow within your means. This boom or bust gambling with money the club cannot afford is just nonsense and will get you nowhere. You need to be self sufficient and success needs to be steady and sustainable.
This is your opportunity for a turning point and a change - can you do it is the question.
Ill probably come in for abuse as usual but it will be interesting to bump this in a couple of seasons time. As CantonMagic and various incarnations of Roathie - again all I can say is ive tried to twll you whats what. You can lead the horse to water but you cant make it drink.
Good luck.
another bitter petty post with feeble attempts to hide the chip..........no we have a catchment area 2nd to none..the potential is just potential but its massive.......you know this..hate it..dont miss a trick to attempt to belittle it..but it doesnt go away does it.........was it worth it?..
could ask you the same........its not like your finishing top half this century is it......you lose far more than you win and are the smallest club in the division sort of a modern day Wimbledon..
What a great word that is - "potential". When you think about it, it's just a cop-out and a way of burying your head in the sand! If you haven't realised your "potential" in the Premier League, then when are you going to realise it? With such a massive catchment area, why aren't you selling out? I'm sure you'll come back with the usual Tan this, Tan that garbage as an excuse, but again I ask the question -when will you realise this "potential" you keep telling us about?
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:21 pm
soulofthesea wrote:.....its not like your finishing top half this century is it.......
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:24 pm
soulofthesea wrote:PremierJacks wrote:soulofthesea wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:This is a post laced with the aroma of coffee and strong smelling salts rather than a sharp tongue.
It is quite ironic that in a few shirt weeks you will be back in the same place where you guys allowed Tan to start this crazy path of rebranding and wild spending. You will still be clad in red, your fan base will still be split, your debts will have tripled and your attendances shrunk (judging by renewals of only 12,000).
So was it worth it? Surely the answer to that is no. But why couldnt you see what most other non city fans saw?
I think this is down to a fans attitude unique to your club. There is an insatiable appetite to be seen as a big club, best team in wales etc etc and this attitude and kudos craving has seen you mortgage your club and herritage on a whim for short term glamour.
You need a complete overhaul. Players, chairman, fans outlook, club ethos - everything needs to change. First of all this "big club" bollocks that has been spouted for so long needs to go as it is your main weakness. As soon as someone comes in and panders to that then you are sold and will give them the keys to the club (see Hammam, Riddler and Tan for details). Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.... Fool me three times and questions really need to be asked about your sanity.
You need to be comfotable in your own skin. A modest club from south wales with a small hardcore following and a largely irrelevant past in terms of footballing pedigree. This may be hard for many to accept but its true, and this pretence and desire to be something else is killing your club from within.
You need to build slowly, develop the club and live within your means - and then in turn grow within your means. This boom or bust gambling with money the club cannot afford is just nonsense and will get you nowhere. You need to be self sufficient and success needs to be steady and sustainable.
This is your opportunity for a turning point and a change - can you do it is the question.
Ill probably come in for abuse as usual but it will be interesting to bump this in a couple of seasons time. As CantonMagic and various incarnations of Roathie - again all I can say is ive tried to twll you whats what. You can lead the horse to water but you cant make it drink.
Good luck.
another bitter petty post with feeble attempts to hide the chip..........no we have a catchment area 2nd to none..the potential is just potential but its massive.......you know this..hate it..dont miss a trick to attempt to belittle it..but it doesnt go away does it.........was it worth it?..
could ask you the same........its not like your finishing top half this century is it......you lose far more than you win and are the smallest club in the division sort of a modern day Wimbledon..
What a great word that is - "potential". When you think about it, it's just a cop-out and a way of burying your head in the sand! If you haven't realised your "potential" in the Premier League, then when are you going to realise it? With such a massive catchment area, why aren't you selling out? I'm sure you'll come back with the usual Tan this, Tan that garbage as an excuse, but again I ask the question -when will you realise this "potential" you keep telling us about?
27k aint bad is it..13th best in prem.........after 50 years of dog shit where we have lost thousands of fans to top 6 clubs...........i dont need excuses about tan..........what other club after a 50 year absence could get 27k..?..that something to be very proud of,which i am,,and to be envied by lesser cl;ubs like yourselves..which your post proves you do....
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:26 pm
HandyLegs wrote:soulofthesea wrote:.....its not like your finishing top half this century is it.......
Didn't they finish 9th last season?
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:31 pm
PremierJacks wrote:soulofthesea wrote:PremierJacks wrote:soulofthesea wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:This is a post laced with the aroma of coffee and strong smelling salts rather than a sharp tongue.
It is quite ironic that in a few shirt weeks you will be back in the same place where you guys allowed Tan to start this crazy path of rebranding and wild spending. You will still be clad in red, your fan base will still be split, your debts will have tripled and your attendances shrunk (judging by renewals of only 12,000).
So was it worth it? Surely the answer to that is no. But why couldnt you see what most other non city fans saw?
I think this is down to a fans attitude unique to your club. There is an insatiable appetite to be seen as a big club, best team in wales etc etc and this attitude and kudos craving has seen you mortgage your club and herritage on a whim for short term glamour.
You need a complete overhaul. Players, chairman, fans outlook, club ethos - everything needs to change. First of all this "big club" bollocks that has been spouted for so long needs to go as it is your main weakness. As soon as someone comes in and panders to that then you are sold and will give them the keys to the club (see Hammam, Riddler and Tan for details). Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.... Fool me three times and questions really need to be asked about your sanity.
You need to be comfotable in your own skin. A modest club from south wales with a small hardcore following and a largely irrelevant past in terms of footballing pedigree. This may be hard for many to accept but its true, and this pretence and desire to be something else is killing your club from within.
You need to build slowly, develop the club and live within your means - and then in turn grow within your means. This boom or bust gambling with money the club cannot afford is just nonsense and will get you nowhere. You need to be self sufficient and success needs to be steady and sustainable.
This is your opportunity for a turning point and a change - can you do it is the question.
Ill probably come in for abuse as usual but it will be interesting to bump this in a couple of seasons time. As CantonMagic and various incarnations of Roathie - again all I can say is ive tried to twll you whats what. You can lead the horse to water but you cant make it drink.
Good luck.
another bitter petty post with feeble attempts to hide the chip..........no we have a catchment area 2nd to none..the potential is just potential but its massive.......you know this..hate it..dont miss a trick to attempt to belittle it..but it doesnt go away does it.........was it worth it?..
could ask you the same........its not like your finishing top half this century is it......you lose far more than you win and are the smallest club in the division sort of a modern day Wimbledon..
What a great word that is - "potential". When you think about it, it's just a cop-out and a way of burying your head in the sand! If you haven't realised your "potential" in the Premier League, then when are you going to realise it? With such a massive catchment area, why aren't you selling out? I'm sure you'll come back with the usual Tan this, Tan that garbage as an excuse, but again I ask the question -when will you realise this "potential" you keep telling us about?
27k aint bad is it..13th best in prem.........after 50 years of dog shit where we have lost thousands of fans to top 6 clubs...........i dont need excuses about tan..........what other club after a 50 year absence could get 27k..?..that something to be very proud of,which i am,,and to be envied by lesser cl;ubs like yourselves..which your post proves you do....
I absolutely agree that 27k is a respectable attendance, but yet again I ask - under what set of circumstances are you going to realise this "potential" to be a massive club that you keep telling us about?
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:36 pm
soulofthesea wrote:PremierJacks wrote:soulofthesea wrote:PremierJacks wrote:soulofthesea wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:This is a post laced with the aroma of coffee and strong smelling salts rather than a sharp tongue.
It is quite ironic that in a few shirt weeks you will be back in the same place where you guys allowed Tan to start this crazy path of rebranding and wild spending. You will still be clad in red, your fan base will still be split, your debts will have tripled and your attendances shrunk (judging by renewals of only 12,000).
So was it worth it? Surely the answer to that is no. But why couldnt you see what most other non city fans saw?
I think this is down to a fans attitude unique to your club. There is an insatiable appetite to be seen as a big club, best team in wales etc etc and this attitude and kudos craving has seen you mortgage your club and herritage on a whim for short term glamour.
You need a complete overhaul. Players, chairman, fans outlook, club ethos - everything needs to change. First of all this "big club" bollocks that has been spouted for so long needs to go as it is your main weakness. As soon as someone comes in and panders to that then you are sold and will give them the keys to the club (see Hammam, Riddler and Tan for details). Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.... Fool me three times and questions really need to be asked about your sanity.
You need to be comfotable in your own skin. A modest club from south wales with a small hardcore following and a largely irrelevant past in terms of footballing pedigree. This may be hard for many to accept but its true, and this pretence and desire to be something else is killing your club from within.
You need to build slowly, develop the club and live within your means - and then in turn grow within your means. This boom or bust gambling with money the club cannot afford is just nonsense and will get you nowhere. You need to be self sufficient and success needs to be steady and sustainable.
This is your opportunity for a turning point and a change - can you do it is the question.
Ill probably come in for abuse as usual but it will be interesting to bump this in a couple of seasons time. As CantonMagic and various incarnations of Roathie - again all I can say is ive tried to twll you whats what. You can lead the horse to water but you cant make it drink.
Good luck.
another bitter petty post with feeble attempts to hide the chip..........no we have a catchment area 2nd to none..the potential is just potential but its massive.......you know this..hate it..dont miss a trick to attempt to belittle it..but it doesnt go away does it.........was it worth it?..
could ask you the same........its not like your finishing top half this century is it......you lose far more than you win and are the smallest club in the division sort of a modern day Wimbledon..
What a great word that is - "potential". When you think about it, it's just a cop-out and a way of burying your head in the sand! If you haven't realised your "potential" in the Premier League, then when are you going to realise it? With such a massive catchment area, why aren't you selling out? I'm sure you'll come back with the usual Tan this, Tan that garbage as an excuse, but again I ask the question -when will you realise this "potential" you keep telling us about?
27k aint bad is it..13th best in prem.........after 50 years of dog shit where we have lost thousands of fans to top 6 clubs...........i dont need excuses about tan..........what other club after a 50 year absence could get 27k..?..that something to be very proud of,which i am,,and to be envied by lesser cl;ubs like yourselves..which your post proves you do....
I absolutely agree that 27k is a respectable attendance, but yet again I ask - under what set of circumstances are you going to realise this "potential" to be a massive club that you keep telling us about?
obviously in the prem for a length of time,,and challenging for something..............its a tall order i like everyone knows..but that is what potential means my friend.....if sheffield wednesday and rotherham both had big backing,both ended up top 4 clubs in the prem......one would attract twice what the other would..............you can most likely see that........just refuse to when Cardiff are in the mix
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:41 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:44 pm
thehumblegringo wrote:f**k me I never thought I'd see the day when cardiff fans would get in bed with this fecking gimp. This club is f*cking dead, I hope tan f**k's off and we go bust
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:46 pm
soulofthesea wrote:HandyLegs wrote:soulofthesea wrote:.....its not like your finishing top half this century is it.......
Didn't they finish 9th last season?
did they?
i meant from now on........but you knew that..
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:47 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:This is a post laced with the aroma of coffee and strong smelling salts rather than a sharp tongue.
It is quite ironic that in a few shirt weeks you will be back in the same place where you guys allowed Tan to start this crazy path of rebranding and wild spending. You will still be clad in red, your fan base will still be split, your debts will have tripled and your attendances shrunk (judging by renewals of only 12,000).
So was it worth it? Surely the answer to that is no. But why couldnt you see what most other non city fans saw?
I think this is down to a fans attitude unique to your club. There is an insatiable appetite to be seen as a big club, best team in wales etc etc and this attitude and kudos craving has seen you mortgage your club and herritage on a whim for short term glamour.
You need a complete overhaul. Players, chairman, fans outlook, club ethos - everything needs to change. First of all this "big club" bollocks that has been spouted for so long needs to go as it is your main weakness. As soon as someone comes in and panders to that then you are sold and will give them the keys to the club (see Hammam, Riddler and Tan for details). Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.... Fool me three times and questions really need to be asked about your sanity.
You need to be comfotable in your own skin. A modest club from south wales with a small hardcore following and a largely irrelevant past in terms of footballing pedigree. This may be hard for many to accept but its true, and this pretence and desire to be something else is killing your club from within.
You need to build slowly, develop the club and live within your means - and then in turn grow within your means. This boom or bust gambling with money the club cannot afford is just nonsense and will get you nowhere. You need to be self sufficient and success needs to be steady and sustainable.
This is your opportunity for a turning point and a change - can you do it is the question.
Ill probably come in for abuse as usual but it will be interesting to bump this in a couple of seasons time. As CantonMagic and various incarnations of Roathie - again all I can say is ive tried to twll you whats what. You can lead the horse to water but you cant make it drink.
Good luck.
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:48 pm
i think youve done a fair job on yourself.........they finished 9th wha who ... typical jack waste of space.............you know full well what i was getting at so go back to your caravanHandyLegs wrote:soulofthesea wrote:HandyLegs wrote:soulofthesea wrote:.....its not like your finishing top half this century is it.......
Didn't they finish 9th last season?
did they?
i meant from now on........but you knew that..
You've just made yourself look silly mate. As much as it hurts most of us to admit, the Jacks are everything we want to be. An established Premier League team in profit, run by FANS wearing their teams proper colours.
We're in for a rough ride for the foreseeable future whilst we get rid of Tan. The prospect of having bragging rights over them again in this period are pretty remote to say the least.
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:50 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:51 pm
soulofthesea wrote:thehumblegringo wrote:f**k me I never thought I'd see the day when cardiff fans would get in bed with this fecking gimp. This club is f*cking dead, I hope tan f**k's off and we go bust
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Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:58 pm
HandyLegs wrote:soulofthesea wrote:HandyLegs wrote:soulofthesea wrote:.....its not like your finishing top half this century is it.......
Didn't they finish 9th last season?
did they?
i meant from now on........but you knew that..
You've just made yourself look silly mate. As much as it hurts most of us to admit, the Jacks are everything we want to be. An established Premier League team in profit, run by FANS wearing their teams proper colours.
We're in for a rough ride for the foreseeable future whilst we get rid of Tan. The prospect of having bragging rights over them again in this period are pretty remote to say the least.
Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:58 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:03 pm
Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:08 pm
llan bluebird wrote:Why do some get into the my dad is bigger than your dad stuff with the jacks ??
It was a sensible OP, laced with the usual condescending one upmanship from the resident Jack fused with an underlying subliminal inferiority complex.
Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:10 pm
cendl blue wrote:The season has been an absolute shambles and will be remembered for all the wrong things. Off field embarrassments and in fighting have kept us in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. It as been a classic case of the chase being better than the prize but i think most fans with their head screwed on would have thought we would struggle even with the investment. The problem with a lot of the jack posters you accuse us of wanting or thinking were a big club and accuse us of having visions of grandeur yet you compare yourselves to some of the finest teams in Europe. Deluded. Roathie keeps saying being the bigger team doesn't bother him yet soon as attendances or expansion are mentioned he's all over it like a rash. I would like to think I give an honest and unbiased opinion as much as any fan can. That being the case Swansea at this present time have a better team/squad and are a better footballing side. That wouldnt be hard mind and before you lord it over us and subject us to your analysis look at the table, all is not well with your lot. your crowds are obviously good for your catchment area so i don't see why you get that bothered about the fact that Cardiff fans saying about the potential the club could have. Has it stands the present owner will not maximise the potential due to his folly and the fickle nature of the modern fan. The crowds will obviously be down next year but they were likely to be even with premiership survival. You cannot argue the fact that the potential is there Cardiff is a more vibrant and prosperous city and has been able to attract big crowds at times for generations but has never been able to sustain them. I am not blinkered have been on the bob bank with the 2500 crowds so know we have come along away. If this is the start of the slide then so be it that's football it goes in cycles and some of you jacks should bear that in mind
Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:12 pm
soulofthesea wrote:llan bluebird wrote:Why do some get into the my dad is bigger than your dad stuff with the jacks ??
It was a sensible OP, laced with the usual condescending one upmanship from the resident Jack fused with an underlying subliminal inferiority complex.
no it wasnt..............it was look how nice and reasonable i can sound slagging cardiff off...........EVERYTHING in the op was hashed rubbish.........yes doesnt it sound reasonable,we want too much,expect to much,we should revolt against tan..thats how they do it
we are only a plastic version of them..............truth is..they hate tan far more than we do and it got f**k all to do with the rebrand............they are aware as long as we have his money ,at some point we grow and they will go back to being..THEM.