Poor Champ & big budget got us up

Watching Derby v Forest now and the quality on show is class, it''s clear we got promoted on other teams being too shit and spending that big budget to send us up

Our promotion team gave us false hope, this team weren't prepared at all because we were getting promoted against awful teams with no real good stats

Rubbish! There is nothing to suggest that the Championship is better this year than last. It's just your opinion.

Watching Derby v Forest now and the quality on show is class, it''s clear we got promoted on other teams being too shit and spending that big budget to send us up

Our promotion team gave us false hope, this team weren't prepared at all because we were getting promoted against awful teams with no real good stats

We were still the best of a bad bunch then, fella, even if your theory was correct (which IMHO it is not)

Not sure why you bother turning up (assuming you do) if all you want to do is 'knock'

Watching Derby v Forest now and the quality on show is class, it''s clear we got promoted on other teams being too shit and spending that big budget to send us up

Our promotion team gave us false hope, this team weren't prepared at all because we were getting promoted against awful teams with no real good stats

We were still the best of a bad bunch then, fella, even if your theory was correct (which IMHO it is not)

Not sure why you bother turning up (assuming you do) if all you want to do is 'knock'

He's just one of those pricks who will slag off Malky for absolutely anything and arselick Tan no matter what he says. Him and a few others really do give my generation of City fans a bad name.

It was the worst championship in years which is why we romped home with a big margin. We would have gone up if it was a quality division like it has been in the past anyway.

It was the worst championship in years which is why we romped home with a big margin. We would have gone up if it was a quality division like it has been in the past anyway.

I'm not sure, maybe would have won the play-offs but the Championship was poor last season, awful bunch of teams

This season is hardly lighting the up the world either. Leicester were pretty much promoted last month and now Burnley have regained some form and shot into 2nd and are 10 points ahead, so they are going up too.

The rest have been shocking. Derby were on a horrid run of not scoring prior to today, Forest haven't won in ages. Reading are inconsistent, QPR have underachieved and just a week or two ago they'd have been lucky to stay in the playoffs. Wigan have improved a lot since Rosler came in.

The relegation battle is the only interesting thing going on right now. But I wouldn't be surprised if the current bottom 3 went down.

So there have been 2 outstanding teams, with one (Wigan) who have shown great form lately and will probably go up considering how poor the other sides are.

Last seasons Championship may have been a little poor but this one has hardly been better. Stop trying to discredit MM at every turn. It is embarrassing.

It was clearly an awful championship that year, you barely won in your last 10 games and nobody even closed the gap. You all said how poorly you played for the majority of that season barring a couple of performances and yet there was no opposition really at all.

It was noted by many that you needed a new team, however the majority of the budget was spent on a handful of players - again noted at the time as being unwise.

Funny how the championship changes so quickly from quality to rubbish from one season to the next

Anyone considered the fact that teams don't win every game is because it is so competitive aka a quality league?

The fact is if you win it then you're the best - the rest is just opinion and often sour grapes

Funny how the championship changes so quickly from quality to rubbish from one season to the next

Anyone considered the fact that teams don't win every game is because it is so competitive aka a quality league?

The fact is if you win it then you're the best - the rest is just opinion and often sour grapes

What have your own fans got to be sour about?

At the time week after week people were saying "how did we win that?!" The quality of that league was poor. Competitive doesnt necessarily mean good. Our local blind league is competitive too.

Funny how the championship changes so quickly from quality to rubbish from one season to the next

Anyone considered the fact that teams don't win every game is because it is so competitive aka a quality league?

The fact is if you win it then you're the best - the rest is just opinion and often sour grapes

What have your own fans got to be sour about?

At the time week after week people were saying "how did we win that?!" The quality of that league was poor. Competitive doesnt necessarily mean good. Our local blind league is competitive too.

I wasn't necessarily referring to our own fans. It's all opinions and nothing can be proved either way. I'd be interested to know when the league had so much more quality as I can't remember seeing it. The stand out team for me since we've been in the championship (other than us of course ) was the Reading title winning side, otherwise every season has been a similar formula of early pace setters, surprise teams, one team steaming through on a late charge, others falling away with bad runs and the winners like any league proving consistency wins the day, especially getting a result when you don't play well.

We were a team very hard to beat. By the end of the season we were playing the situation more than anything e.g. Going to Watford clearly set up to draw as opposed to win the game. Had we needed more points I think we would have got them.

Overall, we won it and I don't really care. I hope it's poor next season

No reason why your blind league can't be quality, it's all relative

Funny how the championship changes so quickly from quality to rubbish from one season to the next

Anyone considered the fact that teams don't win every game is because it is so competitive aka a quality league?

The fact is if you win it then you're the best - the rest is just opinion and often sour grapes

What have your own fans got to be sour about?

At the time week after week people were saying "how did we win that?!" The quality of that league was poor. Competitive doesnt necessarily mean good. Our local blind league is competitive too.

I wasn't necessarily referring to our own fans. It's all opinions and nothing can be proved either way. I'd be interested to know when the league had so much more quality as I can't remember seeing it. The stand out team for me since we've been in the championship (other than us of course ) was the Reading title winning side, otherwise every season has been a similar formula of early pace setters, surprise teams, one team steaming through on a late charge, others falling away with bad runs and the winners like any league proving consistency wins the day, especially getting a result when you don't play well.

We were a team very hard to beat. By the end of the season we were playing the situation more than anything e.g. Going to Watford clearly set up to draw as opposed to win the game. Had we needed more points I think we would have got them.

Overall, we won it and I don't really care. I hope it's poor next season

No reason why your blind league can't be quality, it's all relative

Newcastle title winning side, QPR title winning side, us as play-off winners.

Your side under Dave Jones woukd have beaten your title winning side in my opinion.

Look how many of your championship winning players cut it at Prem level. Then look how many did from previous years of other promoted sides.

Funny how the championship changes so quickly from quality to rubbish from one season to the next

Anyone considered the fact that teams don't win every game is because it is so competitive aka a quality league?

The fact is if you win it then you're the best - the rest is just opinion and often sour grapes

What have your own fans got to be sour about?

At the time week after week people were saying "how did we win that?!" The quality of that league was poor. Competitive doesnt necessarily mean good. Our local blind league is competitive too.

I wasn't necessarily referring to our own fans. It's all opinions and nothing can be proved either way. I'd be interested to know when the league had so much more quality as I can't remember seeing it. The stand out team for me since we've been in the championship (other than us of course ) was the Reading title winning side, otherwise every season has been a similar formula of early pace setters, surprise teams, one team steaming through on a late charge, others falling away with bad runs and the winners like any league proving consistency wins the day, especially getting a result when you don't play well.

We were a team very hard to beat. By the end of the season we were playing the situation more than anything e.g. Going to Watford clearly set up to draw as opposed to win the game. Had we needed more points I think we would have got them.

Overall, we won it and I don't really care. I hope it's poor next season

No reason why your blind league can't be quality, it's all relative

Newcastle title winning side, QPR title winning side, us as play-off winners.

Your side under Dave Jones woukd have beaten your title winning side in my opinion.

Look how many of your championship winning players cut it at Prem level. Then look how many did from previous years of other promoted sides.

Newcastle def strong, not as good as reading.
QPR functional but nothing special. They had tarabt who bailed them out.
Swansea?

Funny how the championship changes so quickly from quality to rubbish from one season to the next

Anyone considered the fact that teams don't win every game is because it is so competitive aka a quality league?

The fact is if you win it then you're the best - the rest is just opinion and often sour grapes

What have your own fans got to be sour about?

At the time week after week people were saying "how did we win that?!" The quality of that league was poor. Competitive doesnt necessarily mean good. Our local blind league is competitive too.

I wasn't necessarily referring to our own fans. It's all opinions and nothing can be proved either way. I'd be interested to know when the league had so much more quality as I can't remember seeing it. The stand out team for me since we've been in the championship (other than us of course ) was the Reading title winning side, otherwise every season has been a similar formula of early pace setters, surprise teams, one team steaming through on a late charge, others falling away with bad runs and the winners like any league proving consistency wins the day, especially getting a result when you don't play well.

We were a team very hard to beat. By the end of the season we were playing the situation more than anything e.g. Going to Watford clearly set up to draw as opposed to win the game. Had we needed more points I think we would have got them.

Overall, we won it and I don't really care. I hope it's poor next season

No reason why your blind league can't be quality, it's all relative

Newcastle title winning side, QPR title winning side, us as play-off winners.

Your side under Dave Jones woukd have beaten your title winning side in my opinion.

Look how many of your championship winning players cut it at Prem level. Then look how many did from previous years of other promoted sides.

Newcastle def strong, not as good as reading.
QPR functional but nothing special. They had tarabt who bailed them out.
Swansea?

Williams, Rangel, Taylor, Britton, Dyer all first team regulars in the top half of the prem.

Sinclair got a move to Man City and Allen got a move to Liverpool for a combined £22m.

Borini got a move to Roma.

8 out of the 11 went on to compete in European competition.

Funny how the championship changes so quickly from quality to rubbish from one season to the next

Anyone considered the fact that teams don't win every game is because it is so competitive aka a quality league?

The fact is if you win it then you're the best - the rest is just opinion and often sour grapes

What have your own fans got to be sour about?

At the time week after week people were saying "how did we win that?!" The quality of that league was poor. Competitive doesnt necessarily mean good. Our local blind league is competitive too.

I wasn't necessarily referring to our own fans. It's all opinions and nothing can be proved either way. I'd be interested to know when the league had so much more quality as I can't remember seeing it. The stand out team for me since we've been in the championship (other than us of course ) was the Reading title winning side, otherwise every season has been a similar formula of early pace setters, surprise teams, one team steaming through on a late charge, others falling away with bad runs and the winners like any league proving consistency wins the day, especially getting a result when you don't play well.

We were a team very hard to beat. By the end of the season we were playing the situation more than anything e.g. Going to Watford clearly set up to draw as opposed to win the game. Had we needed more points I think we would have got them.

Overall, we won it and I don't really care. I hope it's poor next season

No reason why your blind league can't be quality, it's all relative

Newcastle title winning side, QPR title winning side, us as play-off winners.

Your side under Dave Jones woukd have beaten your title winning side in my opinion.

Look how many of your championship winning players cut it at Prem level. Then look how many did from previous years of other promoted sides.

Newcastle def strong, not as good as reading.
QPR functional but nothing special. They had tarabt who bailed them out.
Swansea?

Williams, Rangel, Taylor, Britton, Dyer all first team regulars in the top half of the prem.

Sinclair got a move to Man City and Allen got a move to Liverpool for a combined £22m.

Borini got a move to Roma.

8 out of the 11 went on to compete in European competition.

By winning a cup, not through league qualification. Cardiff very nearly won it whilst a CL club
Wigan were in the same competition.
Liverpool paid £35m for Carroll
Borini and Sinclair flopped.

All opinions.
For me the CL that year was nothing stand out compared to the years since or before.

Did you compete in the top half of the prem too?

There is no comparison between our promotion players and yours - and we came 3rd.

Got to agree it was a poor champ last season, but i dont take nothing away from what MM achieved, you still have to beat whats in front of you.

It was also a poor PL last season according to many. Man U romped it but were very ordinary by their standards.

All about opinions but it's funny how the CL was great when the jacks went up but poor when we won it. Coincidence?

It was clearly an awful championship that year, you barely won in your last 10 games and nobody even closed the gap. You all said how poorly you played for the majority of that season barring a couple of performances and yet there was no opposition really at all.

It was noted by many that you needed a new team, however the majority of the budget was spent on a handful of players - again noted at the time as being unwise.

Glad someone can agree, our team gave us false hope and we went into the season thinking our Championship team could compete in the Prem when it clearly couldn't

It was also a poor PL last season according to many. Man U romped it but were very ordinary by their standards.

All about opinions but it's funny how the CL was great when the jacks went up but poor when we won it. Coincidence?

The Prem last year had the European champions in it, who didnt even win the league.

No top player left it from the year before but tonnes of quality was added.

The Championship has been the toughest of the top 4 leagues for a number of years now. Literally anyone can beat anyone - just look at Peterborough doing us over twice last season. Doesn't make it a poor league, makes it more exciting, in my opinion.

That said, given the choice i'd obviously rather be playing in the PL again next year, but should we go down I'm confident we'll be a part of another exciting promotion battle in that league.

The Championship has been the toughest of the top 4 leagues for a number of years now. Literally anyone can beat anyone - just look at Peterborough doing us over twice last season. Doesn't make it a poor league, makes it more exciting, in my opinion.

That said, given the choice i'd obviously rather be playing in the PL again next year, but should we go down I'm confident we'll be a part of another exciting promotion battle in that league.

People confuse most exciting and anyone can beat anyone with a good quality league. If you replaced every player with a pig it would be competitive and anyone can beat anyone - the quality would be woeful though.

The fact you guys spent £50m on top of your championship winning side and literally cant seem to buy a win says everything about the lack of quality last year.

The Championship has been the toughest of the top 4 leagues for a number of years now. Literally anyone can beat anyone - just look at Peterborough doing us over twice last season. Doesn't make it a poor league, makes it more exciting, in my opinion.

That said, given the choice i'd obviously rather be playing in the PL again next year, but should we go down I'm confident we'll be a part of another exciting promotion battle in that league.

People confuse most exciting and anyone can beat anyone with a good quality league. If you replaced every player with a pig it would be competitive and anyone can beat anyone - the quality would be woeful though.

The fact you guys spent £50m on top of your championship winning side and literally cant seem to buy a win says everything about the lack of quality last year.

Surely, It says more about our transfer policy than about the quality of the Championship? The problem we have now is that we still have what I would consider an excellent Championship side, even with all the transfers. I have no doubt In my mind that should we keep the majority of the team together, then we would get promoted back from the Championship at the first attempt.

Watching Derby v Forest now and the quality on show is class, it''s clear we got promoted on other teams being too shit and spending that big budget to send us up

Our promotion team gave us false hope, this team weren't prepared at all because we were getting promoted against awful teams with no real good stats

Bollox the standard is the same, we were easily the best team in that league last year..."....

Malky did well to win the league and get us promoted. I'm not sure about the quality of the championship last season but as a championship winning team our football was really dreadful to watch we even parked the bus in that league to..

Watching Derby v Forest now and the quality on show is class, it''s clear we got promoted on other teams being too shit and spending that big budget to send us up

Our promotion team gave us false hope, this team weren't prepared at all because we were getting promoted against awful teams with no real good stats

Just a question... How much was that BIG budget we spent to get promoted and how much bigger was it than the budget of the likes of Forest, Derby, Leicester to name a few??????

We finished Champs on 87, yet Leicester are on 89 with 6 games to go

Watching Derby v Forest now and the quality on show is class, it''s clear we got promoted on other teams being too shit and spending that big budget to send us up

Our promotion team gave us false hope, this team weren't prepared at all because we were getting promoted against awful teams with no real good stats

Just a question... How much was that BIG budget we spent to get promoted and how much bigger was it than the budget of the likes of Forest, Derby, Leicester to name a few??????

it was around 12m, but we had Bellamy and Hellguson on frees both with large pay packets..leicter forest and Derby spent a lot less that season, but Blackburn rovers spent more than us,mostly on Rhodes.
looking back we brought players to get the job done at one level,without looking ahead to the nxt level.

Watching Derby v Forest now and the quality on show is class, it''s clear we got promoted on other teams being too shit and spending that big budget to send us up

Our promotion team gave us false hope, this team weren't prepared at all because we were getting promoted against awful teams with no real good stats

Just a question... How much was that BIG budget we spent to get promoted and how much bigger was it than the budget of the likes of Forest, Derby, Leicester to name a few??????

If you add together Derby, Forest and Leicester's transfer fees from last season it equals our spending and if you add it up from this season it comes up to around 8m.

Only QPR just match us in terms of spending this season with spending slightly over 10m (which is still 1/2 million below us)

Whereas Blackburn and Wolves were the only sides outspending us last season.

So, yeah, we had a big budget in comparison to the rest of the league. Considering only relegated sides spent more or just under than us.