It's pretty obvious to me

Ole is a better manager than milky mackay. The only thing I have doubt about is Oles substitutions. Sometimes he makes weird subs, but if Zaha was given a penalty today we would all be calling Ole a genius.

It's clear to see from the blindest of fans, that Oles football is alot better to watch and alot more attacking. Compared to playing Everton at home we done alot better, Martinez confirming this in his statement that Oles tactics are starting to take shape and cardiff look alot better than they did at the start of the season.

Stick with Ole and we will only get better IMO

I think he made the right sub today because watching the game Everton were there for the taking so he put Zaha on to try get the extra goal!

The 3 subs ogs put on daelhi, whitta and Zaha all attacking going forward.

Malky would of put Cowie. Gunnarson and that's it probably

I think he made the right sub today because watching the game Everton were there for the taking so he put Zaha on to try get the extra goal!

The 3 subs ogs put on daelhi, whitta and Zaha all attacking going forward.

Malky would of put Cowie. Gunnarson and that's it probably

We just seem to have a problem seeing games out, that's spurs home, Sunderland home and Everton away, 4 points taken away in the last minute, we just need some luck for once.

I think he made the right sub today because watching the game Everton were there for the taking so he put Zaha on to try get the extra goal!

The 3 subs ogs put on daelhi, whitta and Zaha all attacking going forward.

Malky would of put Cowie. Gunnarson and that's it probably

We just seem to have a problem seeing games out, that's spurs home, Sunderland home and Everton away, 4 points taken away in the last minute, we just need some luck for once.

I know no worse feeling than a 90th min goal I think its to late personally

The o.p is correct and spot on. But unfortunately it's to late.

I would be very happy if ogs can be our manager in the championship. If we can hold onto 90% of our squad we got a chance of the play offs at least.

The o.p is correct and spot on. But unfortunately it's to late.

I would be very happy if ogs can be our manager in the championship. If we can hold onto 90% of our squad we got a chance of the play offs at least.

Just watching the replay on SS1, Kim really looks out of his depth, cala looks solid and composed, alot better than turner IMO, he's a goal scorer as well as his previous club records suggest.

Ole is a better manager than milky mackay. The only thing I have doubt about is Oles substitutions. Sometimes he makes weird subs, but if Zaha was given a penalty today we would all be calling Ole a genius.

It's clear to see from the blindest of fans, that Oles football is alot better to watch and alot more attacking. Compared to playing Everton at home we done alot better, Martinez confirming this in his statement that Oles tactics are starting to take shape and cardiff look alot better than they did at the start of the season.

Stick with Ole and we will only get better IMO

Calling Malky names is immature and disrespectful. Ole may play more attacking football and Malky was more defensive but it's points that are important and Malky knew how to win ugly sometimes.Today's result proves one thing and that is that Tans claims that red is a lucky is unfounded. Your claim that Ole will get better is just speculation and we are destined for relegation without doubt. The pundits have all said that removing the manager when Tan did was a disaster waiting to happen and they will be proved right.

Ole is a better manager than milky mackay. The only thing I have doubt about is Oles substitutions. Sometimes he makes weird subs, but if Zaha was given a penalty today we would all be calling Ole a genius.

It's clear to see from the blindest of fans, that Oles football is alot better to watch and alot more attacking. Compared to playing Everton at home we done alot better, Martinez confirming this in his statement that Oles tactics are starting to take shape and cardiff look alot better than they did at the start of the season.

Stick with Ole and we will only get better IMO

Calling Malky names is immature and disrespectful. Ole may play more attacking football and Malky was more defensive but it's points that are important and Malky knew how to win ugly sometimes.Today's result proves one thing and that is that Tans claims that red is a lucky is unfounded. Your claim that Ole will get better is just speculation and we are destined for relegation without doubt. The pundits have all said that removing the manager when Tan did was a disaster waiting to happen and they will be proved right.

Malky won 6 out of his last 28

Ole is a better manager than milky mackay. The only thing I have doubt about is Oles substitutions. Sometimes he makes weird subs, but if Zaha was given a penalty today we would all be calling Ole a genius.

It's clear to see from the blindest of fans, that Oles football is alot better to watch and alot more attacking. Compared to playing Everton at home we done alot better, Martinez confirming this in his statement that Oles tactics are starting to take shape and cardiff look alot better than they did at the start of the season.

Stick with Ole and we will only get better IMO

Calling Malky names is immature and disrespectful. Ole may play more attacking football and Malky was more defensive but it's points that are important and Malky knew how to win ugly sometimes.Today's result proves one thing and that is that Tans claims that red is a lucky is unfounded. Your claim that Ole will get better is just speculation and we are destined for relegation without doubt. The pundits have all said that removing the manager when Tan did was a disaster waiting to happen and they will be proved right.

We'd have gone down anyway with no legit tactics and Milky would have just asked for more money to get us promoted. Ole has worked well with a limited budget in a poor time to do transfer business

Ole is a better manager than milky mackay. The only thing I have doubt about is Oles substitutions. Sometimes he makes weird subs, but if Zaha was given a penalty today we would all be calling Ole a genius.

It's clear to see from the blindest of fans, that Oles football is alot better to watch and alot more attacking. Compared to playing Everton at home we done alot better, Martinez confirming this in his statement that Oles tactics are starting to take shape and cardiff look alot better than they did at the start of the season.

Stick with Ole and we will only get better IMO

Calling Malky names is immature and disrespectful. Ole may play more attacking football and Malky was more defensive but it's points that are important and Malky knew how to win ugly sometimes.Today's result proves one thing and that is that Tans claims that red is a lucky is unfounded. Your claim that Ole will get better is just speculation and we are destined for relegation without doubt. The pundits have all said that removing the manager when Tan did was a disaster waiting to happen and they will be proved right.

Malky won 6 out of his last 28

And the last few weeks results were influenced by tan undermining Malky at every turn. Like I said calling Malky names is uncalled for and childish.

Ole is a better manager than milky mackay. The only thing I have doubt about is Oles substitutions. Sometimes he makes weird subs, but if Zaha was given a penalty today we would all be calling Ole a genius.

It's clear to see from the blindest of fans, that Oles football is alot better to watch and alot more attacking. Compared to playing Everton at home we done alot better, Martinez confirming this in his statement that Oles tactics are starting to take shape and cardiff look alot better than they did at the start of the season.

Stick with Ole and we will only get better IMO

Calling Malky names is immature and disrespectful. Ole may play more attacking football and Malky was more defensive but it's points that are important and Malky knew how to win ugly sometimes.Today's result proves one thing and that is that Tans claims that red is a lucky is unfounded. Your claim that Ole will get better is just speculation and we are destined for relegation without doubt. The pundits have all said that removing the manager when Tan did was a disaster waiting to happen and they will be proved right.

We'd have gone down anyway with no legit tactics and Milky would have just asked for more money to get us promoted. Ole has worked well with a limited budget in a poor time to do transfer business

There is no proof to state we would have gone down under Malky and we have seen no improvement under Ole.We were screwed as soon as Tan started to undermine Malky. Ole is not the new messiah and we would have gone down regardless who replaced Malky. The blame for relegation will be Tans so just remember that when you are watching is play Huddersfield next season having forked out for the most expensive season ticket in the championship.

Ole is a better manager than milky mackay. The only thing I have doubt about is Oles substitutions. Sometimes he makes weird subs, but if Zaha was given a penalty today we would all be calling Ole a genius.

It's clear to see from the blindest of fans, that Oles football is alot better to watch and alot more attacking. Compared to playing Everton at home we done alot better, Martinez confirming this in his statement that Oles tactics are starting to take shape and cardiff look alot better than they did at the start of the season.

Stick with Ole and we will only get better IMO

Calling Malky names is immature and disrespectful. Ole may play more attacking football and Malky was more defensive but it's points that are important and Malky knew how to win ugly sometimes.Today's result proves one thing and that is that Tans claims that red is a lucky is unfounded. Your claim that Ole will get better is just speculation and we are destined for relegation without doubt. The pundits have all said that removing the manager when Tan did was a disaster waiting to happen and they will be proved right.

So ole getting better is just speculation (yet it is widely said that team performances are improving)
But you can say we are destined for relegation, that's friend is also speculation...can't just pick and choose.

Ole is a better manager than milky mackay. The only thing I have doubt about is Oles substitutions. Sometimes he makes weird subs, but if Zaha was given a penalty today we would all be calling Ole a genius.

It's clear to see from the blindest of fans, that Oles football is alot better to watch and alot more attacking. Compared to playing Everton at home we done alot better, Martinez confirming this in his statement that Oles tactics are starting to take shape and cardiff look alot better than they did at the start of the season.

Stick with Ole and we will only get better IMO

Calling Malky names is immature and disrespectful. Ole may play more attacking football and Malky was more defensive but it's points that are important and Malky knew how to win ugly sometimes.Today's result proves one thing and that is that Tans claims that red is a lucky is unfounded. Your claim that Ole will get better is just speculation and we are destined for relegation without doubt. The pundits have all said that removing the manager when Tan did was a disaster waiting to happen and they will be proved right.

We'd have gone down anyway with no legit tactics and Milky would have just asked for more money to get us promoted. Ole has worked well with a limited budget in a poor time to do transfer business

There is no proof to state we would have gone down under Malky and we have seen no improvement under Ole.We were screwed as soon as Tan started to undermine Malky. Ole is not the new messiah and we would have gone down regardless who replaced Malky. The blame for relegation will be Tans so just remember that when you are watching is play Huddersfield next season having forked out for the most expensive season ticket in the championship.

That makes no sense.

You say there is no proof we would have gone down if Malky was here then go onto say we would have gone down regardless of who replaced Malky.

Unless you prove your statement of course (which you can't)

Thread ruined

Season ruined more like,all thanks to Tan

Have you made one post which doesn't involve slagging Malky off?

Ole is a better manager than milky mackay. The only thing I have doubt about is Oles substitutions. Sometimes he makes weird subs, but if Zaha was given a penalty today we would all be calling Ole a genius.

It's clear to see from the blindest of fans, that Oles football is alot better to watch and alot more attacking. Compared to playing Everton at home we done alot better, Martinez confirming this in his statement that Oles tactics are starting to take shape and cardiff look alot better than they did at the start of the season.

Stick with Ole and we will only get better IMO

Give some respect - our best Manager for many a year has been Malky Mackay! I also think you meant to say, we 'did' a lot better than we 'done' a lot better

Ole is a better manager than milky mackay. The only thing I have doubt about is Oles substitutions. Sometimes he makes weird subs, but if Zaha was given a penalty today we would all be calling Ole a genius.

It's clear to see from the blindest of fans, that Oles football is alot better to watch and alot more attacking. Compared to playing Everton at home we done alot better, Martinez confirming this in his statement that Oles tactics are starting to take shape and cardiff look alot better than they did at the start of the season.

Stick with Ole and we will only get better IMO

Calling Malky names is immature and disrespectful. Ole may play more attacking football and Malky was more defensive but it's points that are important and Malky knew how to win ugly sometimes.Today's result proves one thing and that is that Tans claims that red is a lucky is unfounded. Your claim that Ole will get better is just speculation and we are destined for relegation without doubt. The pundits have all said that removing the manager when Tan did was a disaster waiting to happen and they will be proved right.

We'd have gone down anyway with no legit tactics and Milky would have just asked for more money to get us promoted. Ole has worked well with a limited budget in a poor time to do transfer business

There is no proof to state we would have gone down under Malky and we have seen no improvement under Ole.We were screwed as soon as Tan started to undermine Malky. Ole is not the new messiah and we would have gone down regardless who replaced Malky. The blame for relegation will be Tans so just remember that when you are watching is play Huddersfield next season having forked out for the most expensive season ticket in the championship.

Your post has already been taken to the cleaners but I'll put my input, there is suggestion that we're better under Ole. Ole has us matching big teams and giving it a real go, when do we score more than one in a match? Especially away from home, we barely scored yet we're scoring more goals on a whole now. Your point about whoever replaced Malky has just flawed your logic though, so if Pulis(a PL veteran took over) he'd have taken us down despite not being relegated in 21 years of management but Malky a manager who has never managed in the PL up until we gave him his chance and spent our biggest budget which could have solidified our PL position would have kept us up


BLINKERS, ON
ROSE TINTED SPECTACLES ON

Imagine what Ole could of done with the 50 mil malky spent on players. If Ole can pull the players he did from just 6 mil, he could of performed some magic for the amount of money malky spent.

Ole has also bought players for great fees that could possibly be sold on for a good profit in the future. Malky has destroyed the clubs finances with his signings and wages, with only mutch and noone being able to be sold on for a profit IMO. Medel and caulker will of course bring money in, but at a loss IMO as milky paid over the odds for them both.

Imagine what Ole could of done with the 50 mil malky spent on players. If Ole can pull the players he did from just 6 mil, he could of performed some magic for the amount of money malky spent.

Ole has also bought players for great fees that could possibly be sold on for a good profit in the future. Malky has destroyed the clubs finances with his signings and wages, with only mutch and noone being able to be sold on for a profit IMO. Medel and caulker will of course bring money in, but at a loss IMO as milky paid over the odds for them both.

Agreed I was thinking about our youthful our team is, some Malky signings, some Ole but Ole has gone for younger players with a mix of experience, but even Cala is only 24 so we've got a squad that's available to us for years to come, fully agree on Medel and Caulker, two great players for us but for the fees we spent we will never generate a profit

Caulker was a bargain. That amount for a highly rated England international centre back who was only 21?

Excellent bit of business.

We were never in the business of buying players for profit.

:lol: Caulker was a bargain. That amount for a highly rated England international centre back who was only 21?

Excellent bit of business.

We were never in the business of buying players for profit.

You could buy 5 chicos from Swansea for caulkers price oh wait caulker is a full English international, and we all know how good england are Swansea could sell Chico on for atleast 7 mil, so if we had 5 chicos for caulkers price and sold them on after relegation, that would be a 25 mil profit, whereas we will make a loss on caulker, no other sucker will pay more than 9.5 mil more him unless malky is coaching them.

Curtis Davies also springs to mind as well, got to sleep old timer

:lol: Caulker was a bargain. That amount for a highly rated England international centre back who was only 21?

Excellent bit of business.

We were never in the business of buying players for profit.

7.5m for Caulker, 2m extra if we stay up, 25% sell on fee if we do.

He's not an England international CB just yet either, great player no doubt for us. And why not? If we go down we will make no money off him, when a club wants to by him and he'll want to leave to help prove he can put his name in the hat for an England place

7.5m for Caulker, 2m extra if we stay up, 25% sell on fee if we do.

as I said, excellent business.

He's not an England international CB just yet either, great player no doubt for us.

yes he is. WHAT else would you call an English CB with an international cap?

And why not? If we go down we will make no money off him,

as I said, the main aim of a transfer is not to get a profit, but to improve the squad.

when a club wants to by him and he'll want to leave to help prove he can put his name in the hat for an England place

7.5m for Caulker, 2m extra if we stay up, 25% sell on fee if we do.

as I said, excellent business.

He's not an England international CB just yet either, great player no doubt for us.

yes he is. WHAT else would you call an English CB with an international cap?

And why not? If we go down we will make no money off him,

as I said, the main aim of a transfer is not to get a profit, but to improve the squad.

when a club wants to by him and he'll want to leave to help prove he can put his name in the hat for an England place

How is a massive sell on fee on what a great plaeyr we have(if we somehow stay up) good for us? If we sold him for double we bought him for we still wouldn't get any profit
It's like saying Jay Bothroyd is an England international for one friendly appearance

It did improve the squad but no doubt if we go down we won't make any money off him, which is what we need when we go down

The fact that you have compared Caulker playing for England, to Bothroyd just shows how ridiculous your argument is.

It looked like a predetermined strategy from the end of last season- We didn't want to be saddled with premier league journeymen/mercenaries if we went down.... We won't have

Gary Medel (26)- Will move on for no loss
Caulker (22)- Will move on for no loss

This is why Cornelius wrecked Tans/Malkys plans.......

Ole's signings have been bought under a slightly different strategy, but more or less the same apart from Jones who does come from the premier league journeymen category

Juan Cala (24) - Will move on for a shed load of profit, if he moves
Daehli (19)- Will grow into a world class player after his season in the physically tougher championship
Eikrem (23) - Easily top end championship class
Beret (23) - No idea

Ole is a better manager than milky mackay. The only thing I have doubt about is Oles substitutions. Sometimes he makes weird subs, but if Zaha was given a penalty today we would all be calling Ole a genius.

It's clear to see from the blindest of fans, that Oles football is alot better to watch and alot more attacking. Compared to playing Everton at home we done alot better, Martinez confirming this in his statement that Oles tactics are starting to take shape and cardiff look alot better than they did at the start of the season.

Stick with Ole and we will only get better IMO

Calling Malky names is immature and disrespectful. Ole may play more attacking football and Malky was more defensive but it's points that are important and Malky knew how to win ugly sometimes.Today's result proves one thing and that is that Tans claims that red is a lucky is unfounded. Your claim that Ole will get better is just speculation and we are destined for relegation without doubt. The pundits have all said that removing the manager when Tan did was a disaster waiting to happen and they will be proved right.

Malky won 6 out of his last 28

And the last few weeks results were influenced by tan undermining Malky at every turn. Like I said calling Malky names is uncalled for and childish.

Not called anyone names on here have you?

Like I said, disrespecting our former manager is childish. Ole plays more attacking football granted but there is little point in creating 3 goals down one end and then conceding 4 goals at the other end. We will go down under Ole, not because he is not likeable or a decent enough manager but it will be because of the turmoil and upset that was caused in getting rid of Malky at the wrong time of the season.

The fact that you have compared Caulker playing for England, to Bothroyd just shows how ridiculous your argument is.

How? Both have one cap to their name which was a friendly? He's not an England international lol