' Tan's son involved with transfers at Cardiff City '

The Guardian
Saturday 8th March 2014.

' VINCENT TAN'S SON INVOLVED WITH TRANSFERS AT CARDIFF CITY '

After yet another turbulent week in south Wales, and on the eve of a crucial relegation battle against Fulham, it has emerged that Vincent Tan's son, Morvin, is working for Cardiff City in an unofficial capacity, including being involved in incoming and outgoing transfers during the January window.

The Guardian has learned that Morvin, a student in London, has been acting as a conduit between his father and the Premier League club, primarily by "taking a look at the numbers" at Cardiff in relation to player transactions. Morvin is not involved with the identification of players and sources at the club have stressed that he has the power to sign off a deal only once it has been approved by his father, after already going through various checks at board level.

While there is no suggestion that Morvin is doing anything improper the fact that he has any part to play in player transfers at Cardiff – he is in his early 20s and has no previous experience of working in professional football, let alone at the highest level – will raise eyebrows.

Part of the thinking behind Morvin becoming involved appears to be that his presence provides his father, who owns Cardiff, with another set of eyes and ears at the club as well as providing a further check on finances. Morvin is not, and has never been, on the payroll, unlike his friend Alisher Apsalyamov, the 23-year-old Kazakh who replaced Iain Moody as head of recruitment in October before being forced to leave the UK after his visa application was rejected.

It is understood that Morvin has formed a close working relationship with Will Salthouse, the agent who represents both Wilfried Zaha, who joined Cardiff on loan from Manchester United in January, and Kenwyne Jones, who arrived as part of a swap that saw Peter Odemwingie sign for Stoke City.

The latest development comes after the news that Vincent Tan offered the Cardiff players an illegal bonus if they avoid relegation. The Premier League have asked Cardiff for an explanation for the £3.7m survival bonus that Tan proposed during a meeting at the team hotel in London on Saturday night, before Sunday's game against Tottenham Hotspur, which Cardiff lost 1-0.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, the Cardiff manager whose weekly press conferences seem to be dominated by questions about his owner, suggested there is nothing to be concerned about in relation to the bonus. "We've spoken to the Premier League and they know the situation and I don't think there will be a problem," Solskjaer said.

Solskjaer refused to criticise Tan for his actions, which breached Premier League rules. "Whether this was said or that was said [by Tan], that's missing the point for me, that's completely irrelevant. What's relevant is that we are there together," Solskjaer said, when asked about the bonus offer.

"He was there to encourage the lads, back the team, he's behind us. And we're here to get the job done. He was there to rally everyone. I invited him to come. We showed unity and that's what you've got to show to the players, that we're all in this together. He's the owner of the club, he wants to be successful, which is great, and he came there and showed that he is backing them. And he did great. When he was stood up on that chair and was talking to them: brilliant."

On the pitch the stakes could hardly be higher this afternoon. Cardiff, second from bottom in the Premier League, are at home to Fulham, who are anchored to the foot of the table. With only four points from a possible 24 under Solskjaer and the 4-0 thrashing at home against Hull City a fortnight ago, Cardiff badly need a win to revive their hopes of staying in the Premier League.

Asked what he wanted from his players against Fulham, Solskjaer said: "Courage. And to play with no fear, go out there and play as [though] you are going to win the league in this game, play like you are going to gain something, because that's what we've got to do. Go out there, be brave, get on the ball, take responsibility and, of course, have that fight in you."

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... CMP=twt_gu

So Tan did "great" by "backing" the players to the tune of the illegal £3700000 -Solskjaer's take , yet Gunnar heard fark all !!???

Are these guys speaking freely @ the Cardiff City Big Top !?!?

when you rely of 1 agent for your transfers, it ends in disaster. I refereence Mark Hughes, QPR & Kia Joorabchian

What a total non story that is

What a total non story that is

Agreed. Everyone is looking for the slightest hint of a story but when you get past the headline it's sensationalist rubbish.

What a total non story that is

Agreed. Everyone is looking for the slightest hint of a story but when you get past the headline it's sensationalist rubbish.

Thats what the internet is full of though. HEADLINES and media storys along with lots of gossip

What a total non story that is

Agreed. Everyone is looking for the slightest hint of a story but when you get past the headline it's sensationalist rubbish.

Thats what the internet is full of though. HEADLINES and media storys along with lots of gossip

It does irritate me when you see a headline like "Tan's son involved with transfers" when the actual story is, he just looks at the figures, has no power to sign anything off without the owners permission, doesnt choose players, doesnt do anything....the crux of the story is he speaks with a football agent who Cardiff deal with. The media are just utter garbage these days

Agenda's and shit stirring - no story here and it's a sticky - ridiculous

Agenda's and shit stirring - no story here and it's a sticky - ridiculous

its a news story in fairness, not a forum story

Agenda's and shit stirring - no story here and it's a sticky - ridiculous

its a news story in fairness, not a forum story

Spot on Craig , the Guardian have written this and its out there, but some just want to blame the forum no matter what.

Agenda's and shit stirring - no story here and it's a sticky - ridiculous

its a news story in fairness, not a forum story

Spot on Craig , the Guardian have written this and its out there, but some just want to blame the forum no matter what.

Yes its a news story - why make it a sticky? is it that important? I don't think so its a non story really, not important at all in the great scheme of things. I would rather you made a sticky of rallying our fans behind our manager and players rather than creating thread after thread of negativity about our club - not helping really is it???

Agenda's and shit stirring - no story here and it's a sticky - ridiculous

its a news story in fairness, not a forum story

Spot on Craig , the Guardian have written this and its out there, but some just want to blame the forum no matter what.

Yes its a news story - why make it a sticky? is it that important? I don't think so its a non story really, not important at all in the great scheme of things. I would rather you made a sticky of rallying our fans behind our manager and players rather than creating thread after thread of negativity about our club - not helping really is it???

As u know as long standing poster/member of this forum 99% of news stories get made stickies good or bad, its not our fault Tan has made the media only want to the bad stories on our club lately, Tan has brought all this to our club, not the fans.

Please make one, Mallo did earlier in the week and it was made a sticky


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Agenda's and shit stirring - no story here and it's a sticky - ridiculous

its a news story in fairness, not a forum story

Spot on Craig , the Guardian have written this and its out there, but some just want to blame the forum no matter what.

Yes its a news story - why make it a sticky? is it that important? I don't think so its a non story really, not important at all in the great scheme of things. I would rather you made a sticky of rallying our fans behind our manager and players rather than creating thread after thread of negativity about our club - not helping really is it???

As u know as long standing poster/member of this forum 99% of news stories get made stickies good or bad, its not our fault Tan has made the media only want to the bad stories on our club lately, Tan has brought all this to our club, not the fans.

Please make one, Mallo did earlier in the week and it was made a sticky

I'll make one and it will be entitled "Get behind your football club"

Agenda's and shit stirring - no story here and it's a sticky - ridiculous

its a news story in fairness, not a forum story

Spot on Craig , the Guardian have written this and its out there, but some just want to blame the forum no matter what.

Yes its a news story - why make it a sticky? is it that important? I don't think so its a non story really, not important at all in the great scheme of things. I would rather you made a sticky of rallying our fans behind our manager and players rather than creating thread after thread of negativity about our club - not helping really is it???

As u know as long standing poster/member of this forum 99% of news stories get made stickies good or bad, its not our fault Tan has made the media only want to the bad stories on our club lately, Tan has brought all this to our club, not the fans.

Please make one, Mallo did earlier in the week and it was made a sticky

I'll make one and it will be entitled "Get behind your football club"

If there is any truth in this then it does, in my opinion, raise one huge question.

Why does VT need another set of eyes looking over the financial details of transfers when he already has that sychopant Lim in place to do that.

Does this mean VT no longer trusts Lim Hmmmmmm.


Better start kissing arse bigtime Mr Lim.

If there is any truth in this then it does, in my opinion, raise one huge question.

Why does VT need another set of eyes looking over the financial details of transfers when he already has that sychopant Lim in place to do that.

Does this mean VT no longer trusts Lim Hmmmmmm.


Better start kissing arse bigtime Mr Lim.

Culture Gary and all to do with nepotism.

If there is any truth in this then it does, in my opinion, raise one huge question.

Why does VT need another set of eyes looking over the financial details of transfers when he already has that sychopant Lim in place to do that.

Does this mean VT no longer trusts Lim Hmmmmmm.


Better start kissing arse bigtime Mr Lim.

Let's face it Gary there was a huge bollock dropped over the Cornelius transfer where it now seems we offered twice as much as Fulham in fees and wages to get his signature .
So for future transfers his son now tells his father that to sign player x his wages will cost x amount over his three year contract the agent fees are x and the transfer fee will be paid in x amount of instalments over x amount of years.
Can't see the issue with that as he is protecting the club and his fathers interests.

If there is any truth in this then it does, in my opinion, raise one huge question.

Why does VT need another set of eyes looking over the financial details of transfers when he already has that sychopant Lim in place to do that.

Does this mean VT no longer trusts Lim Hmmmmmm.


Better start kissing arse bigtime Mr Lim.

Let's face it Gary there was a huge bollock dropped over the Cornelius transfer where it now seems we offered twice as much as Fulham in fees and wages to get his signature .
So for future transfers his son now tells his father that to sign player x his wages will cost x amount over his three year contract the agent fees are x and the transfer fee will be paid in x amount of instalments over x amount of years.
Can't see the issue with that as he is protecting the club and his fathers interests.

Steve, I noticed that on many occasions u keep sticking up for Tan and co, but on a serious not why wont u renew your season ticket for next season, if our club is being properly by the owner?

Honestly I dont know how u can defend Tan, but not renew your season ticket? its not having ago I just cant work that out?

If there is any truth in this then it does, in my opinion, raise one huge question.

Why does VT need another set of eyes looking over the financial details of transfers when he already has that sychopant Lim in place to do that.

Does this mean VT no longer trusts Lim Hmmmmmm.


Better start kissing arse bigtime Mr Lim.

Let's face it Gary there was a huge bollock dropped over the Cornelius transfer where it now seems we offered twice as much as Fulham in fees and wages to get his signature .
So for future transfers his son now tells his father that to sign player x his wages will cost x amount over his three year contract the agent fees are x and the transfer fee will be paid in x amount of instalments over x amount of years.
Can't see the issue with that as he is protecting the club and his fathers interests.

Steve, I noticed that on many occasions u keep sticking up for Tan and co, but on a serious not why wont u renew your season ticket for next season, if our club is being properly by the owner?

Honestly I dont know how u can defend Tan, but not renew your season ticket? its not having ago I just cant work that out?

Pardon for sticking my nose in but surely you can't think this is a bad thing?

If there is any truth in this then it does, in my opinion, raise one huge question.

Why does VT need another set of eyes looking over the financial details of transfers when he already has that sychopant Lim in place to do that.

Does this mean VT no longer trusts Lim Hmmmmmm.


Better start kissing arse bigtime Mr Lim.

Let's face it Gary there was a huge bollock dropped over the Cornelius transfer where it now seems we offered twice as much as Fulham in fees and wages to get his signature .
So for future transfers his son now tells his father that to sign player x his wages will cost x amount over his three year contract the agent fees are x and the transfer fee will be paid in x amount of instalments over x amount of years.
Can't see the issue with that as he is protecting the club and his fathers interests.

Steve, I noticed that on many occasions u keep sticking up for Tan and co, but on a serious not why wont u renew your season ticket for next season, if our club is being properly by the owner?

Honestly I dont know how u can defend Tan, but not renew your season ticket? its not having ago I just cant work that out?

Pardon for sticking my nose in but surely you can't think this is a bad thing?

Craig, I am on about Steve defending Tan on many occasions, no probs thats Steves opinion, but then why not renew your season ticket if your happy with the owner and how were run?

I think Annis, without trying to answer for Steve, is he, like me can judge each situation on its own merit. ie) Rebrand is horrendous but the training facility and expansion are good for the club. Tan has done some good things for this club, his only real faux pas has been the rebrand and because of that the media are on him like flies on shit. Look at this story in this thread for example, its a nothing story but the media go crazy because its Tan, he only has himself to blame, but still.

Some of you guys on here, I include you, and no offence intended, but you will never give Tan credit for anything he does as you are so sewn up in the rebrand. Sometimes, you cant see the woods for the trees.

If there is any truth in this then it does, in my opinion, raise one huge question.

Why does VT need another set of eyes looking over the financial details of transfers when he already has that sychopant Lim in place to do that.

Does this mean VT no longer trusts Lim Hmmmmmm.


Better start kissing arse bigtime Mr Lim.

Let's face it Gary there was a huge bollock dropped over the Cornelius transfer where it now seems we offered twice as much as Fulham in fees and wages to get his signature .
So for future transfers his son now tells his father that to sign player x his wages will cost x amount over his three year contract the agent fees are x and the transfer fee will be paid in x amount of instalments over x amount of years.
Can't see the issue with that as he is protecting the club and his fathers interests.

Steve, I noticed that on many occasions u keep sticking up for Tan and co, but on a serious not why wont u renew your season ticket for next season, if our club is being properly by the owner?

Honestly I dont know how u can defend Tan, but not renew your season ticket? its not having ago I just cant work that out?

I'm not sticking up for tan annis but offering alternative options to what gets posted on here
It was not long ago that Sam used to run every aspect of the cub and interfered in transfers, wages and team selection yet tan is now getting criticised for introducing a measure to stop the mistakes made in the summer transfer window being repeated.
As for my season tickets if you trawl back through the board there was a discussion where both of us said we would watch the team in the premiership for one season as it had been our dream and see what happened.
I have not enjoyed the experience one bit and that has been due to the fact that the football has been mainly negative and we still after 50 million of transfers field a predominantly championship side in terms of ability.
On that basis I have decided not to renew because my dream has become a nightmare whilst your decision is to carry on which I respect.
Interestingly my wife has just said that if I dident spend time on this board reading all the negativity and hatred for everything tan I might find that the enjoyment might come back.
One thing that has been consistent whenever I have posted on your board annis is that I have always respected peoples views and never resorted to personal insults as seems to be more the norm these days when you view threads.
So I am not going to look or post on the board until the season ends now and unfortunately due to the op on my knees last week I can't make the game today.
Good luck with your march

If there is any truth in this then it does, in my opinion, raise one huge question.

Why does VT need another set of eyes looking over the financial details of transfers when he already has that sychopant Lim in place to do that.

Does this mean VT no longer trusts Lim Hmmmmmm.


Better start kissing arse bigtime Mr Lim.

Let's face it Gary there was a huge bollock dropped over the Cornelius transfer where it now seems we offered twice as much as Fulham in fees and wages to get his signature .
So for future transfers his son now tells his father that to sign player x his wages will cost x amount over his three year contract the agent fees are x and the transfer fee will be paid in x amount of instalments over x amount of years.
Can't see the issue with that as he is protecting the club and his fathers interests.

Steve, I noticed that on many occasions u keep sticking up for Tan and co, but on a serious not why wont u renew your season ticket for next season, if our club is being properly by the owner?

Honestly I dont know how u can defend Tan, but not renew your season ticket? its not having ago I just cant work that out?

I'm not sticking up for tan annis but offering alternative options to what gets posted on here
It was not long ago that Sam used to run every aspect of the cub and interfered in transfers, wages and team selection yet tan is now getting criticised for introducing a measure to stop the mistakes made in the summer transfer window being repeated.
As for my season tickets if you trawl back through the board there was a discussion where both of us said we would watch the team in the premiership for one season as it had been our dream and see what happened.
I have not enjoyed the experience one bit and that has been due to the fact that the football has been mainly negative and we still after 50 million of transfers field a predominantly championship side in terms of ability.
On that basis I have decided not to renew because my dream has become a nightmare whilst your decision is to carry on which I respect.
Interestingly my wife has just said that if I dident spend time on this board reading all the negativity and hatred for everything tan I might find that the enjoyment might come back.
One thing that has been consistent whenever I have posted on your board annis is that I have always respected peoples views and never resorted to personal insults as seems to be more the norm these days when you view threads.
So I am not going to look or post on the board until the season ends now and unfortunately due to the op on my knees last week I can't make the game today.
Good luck with your march

Your Wifes right

Steve, Uve never ever given insults and always posted good posts and debates.

Good luck with your knee operation and then get back on here ASAP

I think Annis, without trying to answer for Steve, is he, like me can judge each situation on its own merit. ie) Rebrand is horrendous but the training facility and expansion are good for the club. Tan has done some good things for this club, his only real faux pas has been the rebrand and because of that the media are on him like flies on shit. Look at this story in this thread for example, its a nothing story but the media go crazy because its Tan, he only has himself to blame, but still.

Some of you guys on here, I include you, and no offence intended, but you will never give Tan credit for anything he does as you are so sewn up in the rebrand. Sometimes, you cant see the woods for the trees.

Craig, I cant give Tan any credit till he changes the debt he has had made in to equity as promised and gives us our identity back. 2 most important issues, prob the the most important

I think Annis, without trying to answer for Steve, is he, like me can judge each situation on its own merit. ie) Rebrand is horrendous but the training facility and expansion are good for the club. Tan has done some good things for this club, his only real faux pas has been the rebrand and because of that the media are on him like flies on shit. Look at this story in this thread for example, its a nothing story but the media go crazy because its Tan, he only has himself to blame, but still.

Some of you guys on here, I include you, and no offence intended, but you will never give Tan credit for anything he does as you are so sewn up in the rebrand. Sometimes, you cant see the woods for the trees.

Craig, I cant give Tan any credit till he changes the debt he has had made in to equity as promised and gives us our identity back. 2 most important issues, prob the the most important

If it where your money annis, would you do so now, or would you wait and see if we go down or stay up?

as posted in another thread why don't we question those who want tan out and believe our club has been ruined with the rebrand why they have renewed there season tickets rather than asking steve why he has not renewed