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Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:31 pm
Right, lets have a look at all of Mackays signings. Which ones are good, which ones are bad?. I'll try to be as neutral as possible. I am bored of the number of threads on it which don't even offer any facts, so below are all his signings.
Season 2011/12
Don Cowie Free
Aron Gunnarsson - Free
Andrew Taylor Free
Joe Mason £250,000
Robert Earnshaw Free
Kenny Miller £870,000
Rudy Gestede Free
Ben Turner £750,000
Kadeem Harris Signed
Craig Conway Free
£1,870,000
This was a period when we had a ridiculous number of depatures. Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke, Matthews all being flogged prior to his arrival.
I'd say that year was good, would you?. Especially seeing as Gestede, Conway were sold on for a profit and Taylor, Gunnarsson, Mason, Cowie, Turner got us promoted. Kadeem is one of our best prospects aswell, is he not?.
Season 12/13
Jordan Mutch £1,000,000
Etien Velikonja £800,000
Kim Bo-Kyung £3,000,000
Heidar Helguson undisclosed
Matthew Connolly Undisclosed
Tommy Smith Undisclosed
Nicky Maynard £2,500,000
Fraizer Campbell £650,000
Rhys Healey Undisclosed
Craig Bellamy Free
Craig Noone £1,000,000
Filip Kiss £500,000
Joe Lewis Free
Simon Lappin Free
£9,450,000
Rhys Healey, Noone, Mutch, Bellamy and Fraizer were all bought for an ABSOLUTE PITTANCE. We'd make the money back on Kim imo.
Velikonja was poor and Maynard was over paid for, but injures can't be planned for.
Nothing much happened for the rest but the purchases of those above for such ridiculously low fees makes up for it. He maybe didn't start Noone that often in a few games at the start of the season, but he still bought him. We wouldn't have him if it wasn't for Mackay.
Season 13/14
John Brayford £1,500,000
Steven Caulker £8,000,000
Simon Moore Undisclosed
Maximiliano Amondarain Free
Kevin Theopile Catherine £2,100,000
Peter Odemwingie £2,500,000
Andreas Cornelius £8,000,000 (sold for £3,000,000)
Gary Medel £11,000,000
£33,100,000
This is where his transfers can be questioned.
Caulker is the only real bargain for Mackay imo this year. The rest you can have huge questions over.
A-Corn enough has been said about it, it was a crap signing all round.
Medel & KTC are good players and we are lucky to have them imo. For some of the prices of players, such as Fellaini for utmost of £30,000,000, Medel was not an expensive signings.
The fact is, we have talent, we just haven't performed. Are all those other years are Mackay wheeling and dealing worth the current abuse? Not for me, no at all.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:37 pm
Great post
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:20 pm
Can you hear the Malky haters sing? I can't hear a f*cking thing
Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:08 pm
Problem is we spent all that money yet still don't have any decent left backs, right backs or strikers. Managers with a lot less funds have managed a lot better in the transfer market.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:14 pm
Declan, Fabio/McNaughton/KTC, Frazier?.
We are a newly promoted team yet a lot of people probably expect:
Marcelo, Dani alves, Falcao
Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:19 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:Can you hear the Malky haters sing? I can't hear a f*cking thing

i didnt realise quite how bad it was tbh...thanks
Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:28 pm
So that's 45 mil and not one decent striker, well done malky you genius
The only players out of that lot capable of playing in the prem, caulker (already prem level), Medel (overpriced but already prem level), noone and mutch. Even beller has been shit, play 1 miss 3 mr dodgy knee.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:35 pm
The way I see it he spent over £40m to get us in to the Premiership which is an awful lot.
However as has been pointed out, the only players that would hold their own at this level which he brought in are Caulker, Medel, Noone & Mutch.
Subject to opinion of course but that's how I look at that, and I guess the table doesn't lie. We are where we are because we haven't got enough quality in the team - and that does actually fall on Moody, Malky and Lim for signing off the signings.
I'm not a Malky hater by any stretch but you've got to admit he & Moody were very short sighted in their vision.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:37 pm
He fucked up in the summer. Who ever denies that is a lier
Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:44 pm
BobBankLoyalist wrote:The way I see it he spent over £40m to get us in to the Premiership which is an awful lot.
However as has been pointed out, the only players that would hold their own at this level which he brought in are Caulker, Medel, Noone & Mutch.
Subject to opinion of course but that's how I look at that, and I guess the table doesn't lie. We are where we are because we haven't got enough quality in the team - and that does actually fall on Moody, Malky and Lim for signing off the signings.
I'm not a Malky hater by any stretch but you've got to admit he & Moody were very short sighted in their vision.
You forgot we were in the championship last year, they were buying players to win the championship and guess what? They did it.
Overspent by fourty million, wtf are you on about?.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:49 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:BobBankLoyalist wrote:The way I see it he spent over £40m to get us in to the Premiership which is an awful lot.
However as has been pointed out, the only players that would hold their own at this level which he brought in are Caulker, Medel, Noone & Mutch.
Subject to opinion of course but that's how I look at that, and I guess the table doesn't lie. We are where we are because we haven't got enough quality in the team - and that does actually fall on Moody, Malky and Lim for signing off the signings.
I'm not a Malky hater by any stretch but you've got to admit he & Moody were very short sighted in their vision.
You forgot we were in the championship last year, they were buying players to win the championship and guess what? They did it.
Overspent by fourty million, wtf are you on about?.
Knock knock, I think your missing the point. No one is denying malky is a good championship manager, he's just no where near the level to keep a team in the prem, therefore he had to go.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:53 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:BobBankLoyalist wrote:The way I see it he spent over £40m to get us in to the Premiership which is an awful lot.
However as has been pointed out, the only players that would hold their own at this level which he brought in are Caulker, Medel, Noone & Mutch.
Subject to opinion of course but that's how I look at that, and I guess the table doesn't lie. We are where we are because we haven't got enough quality in the team - and that does actually fall on Moody, Malky and Lim for signing off the signings.
I'm not a Malky hater by any stretch but you've got to admit he & Moody were very short sighted in their vision.
You forgot we were in the championship last year, they were buying players to win the championship and guess what? They did it.
Overspent by fourty million, wtf are you on about?.
Ok....you going to read what I wrote again or just fly off because you must be related to Mackay? Where did I say we overspent by £40m? I said he spent over £40m to get us in the premiership which was an awful lot. Slightly different to how you perceived it don't you think?
Pretty sure after 25 seasons I haven't forgot we were in the Championship last year and he bought players to get us up, he did, but then what? Like I said the players he bought mainly aren't able to cut it at this level - like I said they table doesn't lie.
Now please if you want a reasonable debate, feel free to read my post again then comment, otherwise I'm sure you have homework or something that needs doing so you better hurry up as it's getting late.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:02 pm
I'll give malky a free pass over last year.
£10mil spent but £5mil of that on two strikers one of whom was injured and the other with question marks over whop signed him.
This year however was a farce. Medel was apparently being touted for £5mil, Cornelius was never worth anywhere near what we paid. Brayford was on paper a goo signing but something went wrong there. I like KTC personally and Caulker was obvious quality. Still, for £40 mil spend we haven't exactly got our money's worth in terms of league position...
Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:11 am
He needed a target man.
He never got one.
He instead purchased Peter O and tried to play him as a target man
Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:13 am
Cornelius aside, I don't know how anyone can question any of Malky's signings. Something went on with Brayford behind the scenes but when he gets man of the match for Sheffield United at Premiership Fulham, you can see why Malky signed him. The rest of the signings kept us above the relegation zone all season (apart from the first day) and every home game we had left after Malky's sacking would have been against a team in 10th place or lower, aside from Liverpool and Chelsea. It's pretty much guaranteed we would have picked up the points required to stay up in those home games and climbed the table.
Unfortunately, we have a clueless owner and impatient fans who wanted to see more attacking football, despite Malky having no alternative option than to set us up with a defensive game plan in every away game, and also set us up defensively against all the superior games we played at home under his reign such as Man City, Everton, Spurs, Newcastle, Man Utd, Arsenal and Southampton. Still, we dominate the second half at home to Swansea and get a well deserved win and Malky started Noone to attack West Brom for another 1-0 win - the type of form needed for Premiership survival picking wins up at home against bottom half opposition, yet Malky still inexplicably gets questioned.
I hope the anti Malky brigade are now enjoying your "more exciting" football, as you morons deserve it!
Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:31 am
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Cornelius aside, I don't know how anyone can question any of Malky's signings. Something went on with Brayford behind the scenes but when he gets man of the match for Sheffield United at Premiership Fulham, you can see why Malky signed him. The rest of the signings kept us above the relegation zone all season (apart from the first day) and every home game we had left after Malky's sacking would have been against a team in 10th place or lower, aside from Liverpool and Chelsea. It's pretty much guaranteed we would have picked up the points required to stay up in those home games and climbed the table.
Unfortunately, we have a clueless owner and impatient fans who wanted to see more attacking football, despite Malky having no alternative option than to set us up with a defensive game plan in every away game, and also set us up defensively against all the superior games we played at home under his reign such as Man City, Everton, Spurs, Newcastle, Man Utd, Arsenal and Southampton. Still, we dominate the second half at home to Swansea and get a well deserved win and Malky started Noone to attack West Brom for another 1-0 win - the type of form needed for Premiership survival picking wins up at home against bottom half opposition, yet Malky still inexplicably gets questioned.
I hope the anti Malky brigade are now enjoying your "more exciting" football, as you morons deserve it!

The first sentence alone is enough to just ignore the same repetitive crap you spew on a daily basis.
Odemwingie yes he was cheap but I am sure he was one of our top earners. You don't buy a striker who thrives off of through balls to launch balls 10 feet over his head.
KTC - Can't defend to save his life. Yes he is OK at going forward but when you're leaking goals you expect your defenders to be solid at the back.
Brayford - Best RB in the Championship last season imo yet doesn't get a look in. There better had be a good reason why Malky was fucked off with him. Because he froze him out, bought a new right back then shipped him off to League 1. I will class him as a bad signing because he DOESN'T PLAY. He isn't like Moore or Maxi who were bought for the future he was bought to play first team football for us but for some reason Malky decided he didn't like him and just left him out.
Medel - Yeah he has a reputation which is why so many fans love him but for 11m I expect better. He is a defensive midfielder yet we concede so many goals. He has had brilliant games of course but not consistent enough for 11m. I see it as 11m down the drain which could have gone toward a striker and a cheaper DM.
5 wastes of money out of 6 players we signed. I know you're so far up MM's arse but even you can see that Cornelius wasn't the only signing to be questioned.
The rest of your post is the same uninteresting garbage you say every day so there is no point even going into that. Especially with someone like yourself, who is blinded by Malky's fist pump which it'd be the equivalent of talking to a brick wall.
Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:30 am
Caulker a bargain
Hull signed Curtis Davies, Figueroa, Tom Huddlestone and Jake Livermore on loan for a year for what we paid for Caulker.
Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:35 am
Yet Ole loaned out Brayford to make room for......Fabio.
Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:13 am
Willy-Wonka wrote:Yet Ole loaned out Brayford to make room for......Fabio.
I enjoyed you're post Mr Wonka & agree that Malky done a good job in transfer market. Only a few bloopers which is to be expected.
Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:32 am
Willy-Wonka wrote:Yet Ole loaned out Brayford to make room for......Fabio.
The same Brayford who never got a game under the guy who signed him, Malky
Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:49 am
He was just found out at this level, when given large amounts of money. No-one is abusing the guy.
The annoying thing is, the "Malky haters" are prepared to give Malky credit for what he did in the past, yet the "Malky apologists" refuse to even admit their messiah had one single flaw.
As far as Tonteg goes, seriously, what would Malky have to do for you to even consider he might have made mistakes. It makes you look ridiculous. Even bloody Annis admitted Malky got some things wrong.
Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:02 am
Only Velikonja and Cornelias stand out as poor signings who had no chance of contributing which over three years is a fantastic record.
Look at the number of big money signings Southampton or QPR made that didn't do anything useful at all.
Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:14 am
I'm not really sure why I made this thread, comparing Mackay and Ole is one of the worst topics on this forum and itannoys me constantly, then I make a thread about it.
Suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion on Mackay, even if it is wrong!
Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:18 am
Ole and Malky cant be compared until Ole has been here a lot longer
Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:58 am
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Caulker a bargain
Hull signed Curtis Davies, Figueroa, Tom Huddlestone and Jake Livermore on loan for a year for what we paid for Caulker.
I think this is where Hull were clever and Malky serverly naive. Hull filled in all the gaps and brought in some experience on the cheap. We despite spending a fortune more have huge gaps in our squad.
Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:58 am
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Cornelius aside, I don't know how anyone can question any of Malky's signings. Something went on with Brayford behind the scenes but when he gets man of the match for Sheffield United at Premiership Fulham, you can see why Malky signed him. The rest of the signings kept us above the relegation zone all season (apart from the first day) and every home game we had left after Malky's sacking would have been against a team in 10th place or lower, aside from Liverpool and Chelsea. It's pretty much guaranteed we would have picked up the points required to stay up in those home games and climbed the table.
Unfortunately, we have a clueless owner and impatient fans who wanted to see more attacking football, despite Malky having no alternative option than to set us up with a defensive game plan in every away game, and also set us up defensively against all the superior games we played at home under his reign such as Man City, Everton, Spurs, Newcastle, Man Utd, Arsenal and Southampton. Still, we dominate the second half at home to Swansea and get a well deserved win and Malky started Noone to attack West Brom for another 1-0 win - the type of form needed for Premiership survival picking wins up at home against bottom half opposition, yet Malky still inexplicably gets questioned.
I hope the anti Malky brigade are now enjoying your "more exciting" football, as you morons deserve it!
No alternative because he didn't buy any decent attacking players. Noone our attacking winger hardly ever played..,
Malkys football was an utter bore to watch his defensive record wasn't like the malky bummers claim it was..
I supported malky but don't give two hoots about him now as he's gone.. Fans should support the current manager now instead of taking it out of him because they hate Tan.. grow up.
Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:00 am
Willy-Wonka wrote:I'm not really sure why I made this thread, comparing Mackay and Ole is one of the worst topics on this forum and itannoys me constantly, then I make a thread about it.
Suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion on Mackay, even if it is wrong!

Malky did well but messed up should he have been given time? probably but he wasn't so we all need to give ole time to do his own thing..
Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:04 am
I really liked this post

its all god getting that on the wall and look at it. Looking at it though i think Malky did really well! He did some really good deals in his time. But it seems he forgot to by any players for the prems. Medel and coulker have turn out great. But i hardly belive he bought coulker at 22 to carry this team. I really like medel, but as roathy pointed out with
Stats, he is very stationary. So as luck turned out, he got two prem players for this year. But overall no one can argue he did well
Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:18 am
bspark wrote:Only Velikonja and Cornelias stand out as poor signings who had no chance of contributing which over three years is a fantastic record.
Look at the number of big money signings Southampton or QPR made that didn't do anything useful at all.
And both those clubs sacked their promotion winning manager
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