TWO City Players Named in Worst Prem XI

Declan John?!

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Fabio, Zaha and Kenwyne Jones must be breathing sighs of relief!

Fabio, Zaha and Kenwyne Jones must be breathing sighs of relief!

Give them a few more games

Whoscored's ratings aren't particularly reliable imo.

Overall stats have odd weightings.

it says in the article that Andrew Taylor was the second worst left full back in the premier league with John being the worst. the article is a load of Sh1te .

That's not fair on Declan John, this is his first ever season in first team football and the fact that it's in the Premier League is amazing, not to mention that he's only 18... whoever decided this obviously didn't do much research.

That's not fair on Declan John, this is his first ever season in first team football and the fact that it's in the Premier League is amazing, not to mention that he's only 18... whoever decided this obviously didn't do much research.

Unfortunately if you forget age in this instance and just look at performance and we take our rose tinted glasses off, as he is a home grown player. I think the article is correct in the case of Declan We would love to be against a team with such a weak defending player ,who needs a good looking after by his center backs. Age should not be a issue, if you look at Luke Shaw at Southampton who is same age and same position.
I meet a couple of West Ham fans on holiday and they both picked him out as the worst player they have seen this season I am sorry to say

Why the fuk ain't gunnarsson and KTC in there as well baffling.

That's not fair on Declan John, this is his first ever season in first team football and the fact that it's in the Premier League is amazing, not to mention that he's only 18... whoever decided this obviously didn't do much research.

Declan John is not a LB the sooner the managers realise this the sooner the goal difference will get better. He's a left winger gets skinned to many times at LB. Age has fucall to do with it there are some sharp left backs younger than him.

I bet if you put those players together and told them they were voted the worst 11 in the league I bet they would be a bloody force to be reckoned with!

Thats BS for declan john. I thought he was one of the few positives to come out of the season

That's not fair on Declan John, this is his first ever season in first team football and the fact that it's in the Premier League is amazing, not to mention that he's only 18... whoever decided this obviously didn't do much research.

Whether it's his first season or not is irrelevant.

I'd agree with it. John hasn't been that good but that is because he isn't a LB. Not sure whose idea it was to converting him to a LB but it was a silly idea.

Kim however has been dreadful.

John has been superb for me, doesn't dwell on the ball or make stupid passes across the back etc.

Confidence in going forward or beating a man is a bit shot but he is young and will learn.

I'd play john before taylor, fabio and ktc at the moment. He and super kev are our best fullbacks which is worrying in itself.

That's not fair on Declan John, this is his first ever season in first team football and the fact that it's in the Premier League is amazing, not to mention that he's only 18... whoever decided this obviously didn't do much research.

Unfortunately if you forget age in this instance and just look at performance and we take our rose tinted glasses off, as he is a home grown player. I think the article is correct in the case of Declan We would love to be against a team with such a weak defending player ,who needs a good looking after by his center backs. Age should not be a issue, if you look at Luke Shaw at Southampton who is same age and same position.
I meet a couple of West Ham fans on holiday and they both picked him out as the worst player they have seen this season I am sorry to say

The article is about underperformed players ("flops") though, not the worst, John has had a brilliant season in my opinion considering his age and experience, and he's only going to get better.

That's not fair on Declan John, this is his first ever season in first team football and the fact that it's in the Premier League is amazing, not to mention that he's only 18... whoever decided this obviously didn't do much research.

Unfortunately if you forget age in this instance and just look at performance and we take our rose tinted glasses off, as he is a home grown player. I think the article is correct in the case of Declan We would love to be against a team with such a weak defending player ,who needs a good looking after by his center backs. Age should not be a issue, if you look at Luke Shaw at Southampton who is same age and same position.
I meet a couple of West Ham fans on holiday and they both picked him out as the worst player they have seen this season I am sorry to say

The article is about underperformed players ("flops") though, not the worst, John has had a brilliant season in my opinion considering his age and experience, and he's only going to get better.

If the players are not the worst, why is the title "worst premier league 11"??????????????

The guy who wrote it is on Twitter.........

That's not fair on Declan John, this is his first ever season in first team football and the fact that it's in the Premier League is amazing, not to mention that he's only 18... whoever decided this obviously didn't do much research.

Unfortunately if you forget age in this instance and just look at performance and we take our rose tinted glasses off, as he is a home grown player. I think the article is correct in the case of Declan We would love to be against a team with such a weak defending player ,who needs a good looking after by his center backs. Age should not be a issue, if you look at Luke Shaw at Southampton who is same age and same position.
I meet a couple of West Ham fans on holiday and they both picked him out as the worst player they have seen this season I am sorry to say

The article is about underperformed players ("flops") though, not the worst, John has had a brilliant season in my opinion considering his age and experience, and he's only going to get better.

If the players are not the worst, why is the title "worst premier league 11"??????????????

Actually, the title is "Top flops: Who are Premier League's under-performers?"

Read the article:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... performers

To call Declan John a "flop" is ridiculous.

Performance ratings take into account PERFORMANCES not potential performances, rightly so too.

In terms of performances alone, forget age, forget experience, forget potential - just actual physical performances alone.... Name a worse one.

I cant.

He will be a decent championship defender in the future though a la Chris Gunter and maybe has potential to be reverted to his more natural attacking positions, but I havent seen him there to comment.

In terms of "under performing" surely there is a certain level of performance from premier league defenders, they are all marked in the same way. If John has the lowest rating, then my definition he is under performing.

Performance ratings take into account PERFORMANCES not potential performances, rightly so too.

In terms of performances alone, forget age, forget experience, forget potential - just actual physical performances alone.... Name a worse one.

I cant.

He will be a decent championship defender in the future though a la Chris Gunter and maybe has potential to be reverted to his more natural attacking positions, but I havent seen him there to comment.

In terms of "under performing" surely there is a certain level of performance from premier league defenders, they are all marked in the same way. If John has the lowest rating, then my definition he is under performing.

Performances wise he has done nout wrong and kept a lot of people quiet.

I won't take your judgement seriously as you haven't watched him enough.

And don't give that tosh, their not basing it on under performing or level of performance, their just second guessing.

Performance ratings take into account PERFORMANCES not potential performances, rightly so too.

In terms of performances alone, forget age, forget experience, forget potential - just actual physical performances alone.... Name a worse one.

I cant.

He will be a decent championship defender in the future though a la Chris Gunter and maybe has potential to be reverted to his more natural attacking positions, but I havent seen him there to comment.

In terms of "under performing" surely there is a certain level of performance from premier league defenders, they are all marked in the same way. If John has the lowest rating, then my definition he is under performing.

Performances wise he has done nout wrong and kept a lot of people quiet.

yet you have the worst or second worst defensive record in the league?

I won't take your judgement seriously as you haven't watched him enough.

how do you know how much ive watched him?

And don't give that tosh, their not basing it on under performing or level of performance, their just second guessing.

so you are claiming to know how much these people watched him too?

He has that rating for a reason, they aren't guesses. There is a reason you are 1 point off bottom and upon relegation I cant see too many prem clubs wanting John in their starting 11 next season.... Can you?

If the players are not the worst, why is the title "worst premier league 11"??????????????

Actually, the title is "Top flops: Who are Premier League's under-performers?"

Read the article:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... performers

To call Declan John a "flop" is ridiculous.

PremierJacks looking silly again.

How did Andrew Taylor escape??

If the players are not the worst, why is the title "worst premier league 11"??????????????

Actually, the title is "Top flops: Who are Premier League's under-performers?"

Read the article:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... performers

To call Declan John a "flop" is ridiculous.

PremierJacks looking silly again.

............and the title of the graphic on the original post is?
Bazza, you are a tool!

Performance ratings take into account PERFORMANCES not potential performances, rightly so too.

In terms of performances alone, forget age, forget experience, forget potential - just actual physical performances alone.... Name a worse one.

I cant.

He will be a decent championship defender in the future though a la Chris Gunter and maybe has potential to be reverted to his more natural attacking positions, but I havent seen him there to comment.

In terms of "under performing" surely there is a certain level of performance from premier league defenders, they are all marked in the same way. If John has the lowest rating, then my definition he is under performing.

Performances wise he has done nout wrong and kept a lot of people quiet.

yet you have the worst or second worst defensive record in the league?

I won't take your judgement seriously as you haven't watched him enough.

how do you know how much ive watched him?

And don't give that tosh, their not basing it on under performing or level of performance, their just second guessing.

so you are claiming to know how much these people watched him too?

He has that rating for a reason, they aren't guesses. There is a reason you are 1 point off bottom and upon relegation I cant see too many prem clubs wanting John in their starting 11 next season.... Can you?

Hasn't played every game for us and on top that how do you know they properly rated him? You don't, so stop making assumptions.

And yes I can, you are delusional if you don't think Prem clubs want him, we had a offer from Spurs, awkward.

Hasn't played every game for us and on top that how do you know they properly rated him? You don't, so stop making assumptions.

did I say he did then?

Are you telling me they just guessed his 6.48 rating or whatever it is?

And yes I can, you are delusional if you don't think Prem clubs want him, we had a offer from Spurs, awkward.

are you genuinely telling me that Spurs want Declan John to be their starting left back?

Awkward indeed