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CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:06 pm

Daily Mail

4th March 2014

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Cardiff unlikely to face action after owner Tan offers players illegal £3.7m bonus as incentive for Premier League survival

Cardiff chief stuns strugglers with incentive ahead of last Sunday's clash with Spurs.

Tan broke Premier League rules by offering bonus during the season.

Premier League unlikely to bring action against the owner.

Malaysian 'didn't realise it was against regulations'.

Cardiff are second bottom of the top flight.

Cardiff City are unlikely to face any action from the Premier League despite owner Vincent Tan offering his players an illegal £3.7million bonus before Sunday’s defeat by Tottenham.

The Premier League contacted the Welsh club on Tuesday after Sportsmail revealed Tan broke top-flight rules, which state every team must lodge their bonus schedule before the start of the season.

The Malaysian billionaire addressed the players at their Hilton Hotel on London’s Park Lane on Saturday evening and offered the group the bonus to share in the event that they avoid relegation.

However, Sportsmail understands the club are likely avoid a sanction because Tan retracted the offer once he was made aware that it went against the rules.

Under the rules, every club has until the start of the season to register any bonuses not mentioned in players’ contracts with the Premier League to protect the integrity of the game at the highest level.

The regulation is designed to stop clubs using money to motivate players and other staff outside of their existing agreements. Clubs were given a month’s grace this year because of the new TV deals.

Cardiff chairman Mehmet Dalman said: ‘This has all been taken out of context and is a misunderstanding.

‘Yes, Vincent did make the offer on Saturday but he has no executive powers. He's just the owner. He's not running the club and it wasn't up to him to make this offer.

‘I've told him there are strict rules about bonuses and we'd talk further about implementing with the payment structure for next season. Please bear in mind, Vincent Tan meant well on this occasion.’

In the unlikely event that the Premier League do choose to take action, they have a number of options available to them if they find Tan guilty of an offence, including a fine.

If the matter is deemed serious enough, it can be taken to an independent regulatory commission, where the sanctions - including fines and points deductions - are almost unlimited.

Cardiff's 1-0 defeat at Tottenham on Sunday left 19th in the table.

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Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:28 pm

Clown, that's all he is, a pure clown.

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:33 pm

Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Clown, that's all he is, a pure clown.


On this occasion I disagree. All he is doing is trying to motivate the players to mount a survival challenge. He didn't realise it was breaking the rules and once he did the offer was rescinded.

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:55 pm

A block wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Clown, that's all he is, a pure clown.


On this occasion I disagree. All he is doing is trying to motivate the players to mount a survival challenge. He didn't realise it was breaking the rules and once he did the offer was rescinded.


So the owner doesn't know the rules? Great, he is an idiot he really don't have a clue

Good businessman maybe but football is a totally different thing to what he's done before he's lost it he needs to give up

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:58 pm

If the players are not giving a 100% now then they should not be playing for us. If they can be bribed to play better then get rid of them.

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:09 pm

CardiffCityBlue wrote:
A block wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Clown, that's all he is, a pure clown.


On this occasion I disagree. All he is doing is trying to motivate the players to mount a survival challenge. He didn't realise it was breaking the rules and once he did the offer was rescinded.


So the owner doesn't know the rules? Great, he is an idiot he really don't have a clue

Good businessman maybe but football is a totally different thing to what he's done before he's lost it he needs to give up

Anything to have a dig!!

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:09 pm

CardiffCityBlue wrote:
A block wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Clown, that's all he is, a pure clown.


On this occasion I disagree. All he is doing is trying to motivate the players to mount a survival challenge. He didn't realise it was breaking the rules and once he did the offer was rescinded.


So the owner doesn't know the rules? Great, he is an idiot he really don't have a clue

Good businessman maybe but football is a totally different thing to what he's done before he's lost it he needs to give up


He has learnt and withdrawn his offer. What is the problem?

Everybody makes mistakes. Tan doesn't deserve criticism for this as he did nothing wrong.

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:12 pm

A block wrote:
CardiffCityBlue wrote:
A block wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Clown, that's all he is, a pure clown.


On this occasion I disagree. All he is doing is trying to motivate the players to mount a survival challenge. He didn't realise it was breaking the rules and once he did the offer was rescinded.


So the owner doesn't know the rules? Great, he is an idiot he really don't have a clue

Good businessman maybe but football is a totally different thing to what he's done before he's lost it he needs to give up


He has learnt and withdrawn his offer. What is the problem?

Everybody makes mistakes. Tan doesn't deserve criticism for this as he did nothing wrong.


Everyone makes mistakes I agree so why not correct it and change us back blue

Tan ain't got a clue about football stick to mcdonalds vt

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:21 pm

Who is the mole inside the camp who seems to be in bed with the daily mail by leaking private info out ?? :shock:

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:31 pm

A block wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Clown, that's all he is, a pure clown.


On this occasion I disagree. All he is doing is trying to motivate the players to mount a survival challenge. He didn't realise it was breaking the rules and once he did the offer was rescinded.


Are you serious? This is the owner of a PL club we are talking about! Didn't know the rules??? Get real!

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:39 pm

PremierJacks wrote:
A block wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Clown, that's all he is, a pure clown.


On this occasion I disagree. All he is doing is trying to motivate the players to mount a survival challenge. He didn't realise it was breaking the rules and once he did the offer was rescinded.


Are you serious? This is the owner of a PL club we are talking about! Didn't know the rules??? Get real!

exactly, the owner, not the chairman or any official representitive.

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:56 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
A block wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Clown, that's all he is, a pure clown.


On this occasion I disagree. All he is doing is trying to motivate the players to mount a survival challenge. He didn't realise it was breaking the rules and once he did the offer was rescinded.


Are you serious? This is the owner of a PL club we are talking about! Didn't know the rules??? Get real!

exactly, the owner, not the chairman or any official representitive.


So this is a guy who owns a multi-million pound company but doesn't know the rules under which it operates and has no-one to advise him on those rules. As I said, get real!

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:00 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
PremierJacks wrote:
A block wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Clown, that's all he is, a pure clown.


On this occasion I disagree. All he is doing is trying to motivate the players to mount a survival challenge. He didn't realise it was breaking the rules and once he did the offer was rescinded.


Are you serious? This is the owner of a PL club we are talking about! Didn't know the rules??? Get real!

exactly, the owner, not the chairman or any official representitive.


The rules have been broken before and will be broken again. Tan isn't the first and won't be the last to break Premier League rules and as long as he learns from this and makes sure he is advised before making any further decisions that may break Premier League rules I don't see a problem.

He will be warned by the Premier League and that should be enough.

Like I said the offer has been rescinded and no money paid out - therefor no rules broken.

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:40 pm

'Please bear in my mind, Vincent Tan meant well on this occasion'.

Does that mean there have been occasions where Vincent Tan hasn't meant well........?

Hmmmm.

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:16 pm

CardiffCityBlue wrote:
A block wrote:
Pontypool_Bluebird wrote:Clown, that's all he is, a pure clown.


On this occasion I disagree. All he is doing is trying to motivate the players to mount a survival challenge. He didn't realise it was breaking the rules and once he did the offer was rescinded.


So the owner doesn't know the rules? Great, he is an idiot he really don't have a clue

Good businessman maybe but football is a totally different thing to what he's done before he's lost it he needs to give up


oh ffs who knows ALL the rules........The Marshall goal at Chelsea...........get a grip

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:20 pm

if any of you say you knew that offering your players incentives was against the rules your full of shit........

its such a big deal only the antitan sheep care..the FA wont even persue it ffs

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:36 pm

Credit where it's due this was a good gesture by tan.
To have someone offer that to our players I think is a positive.

Some of you are obsessed when you really fail to see positives.

Credit where it's due IMO and this gesture was that

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:37 pm

"He ment well on this occasion"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:25 pm

Meant well.

Do you think he did that out of the goodness of his heart.

Hes a business man and hes worried about relegation which will cost him dearly.

If we stay up he'll get that back no trouble at all

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:26 pm

Meant well.

Do you think he did that out of the goodness of his heart.

Hes a business man and hes worried about relegation which will cost him dearly.

If we stay up he'll get that back no trouble at all

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:21 pm

So he tells the players that they are getting £3.7 million bonus for staying up before checking with advisors and then he recinded the offer straight away...

If your boss offered you a large bonus then minutes later said sorry I can't give you this money anymore because I didn't get authorisation - would you be okay with that?

Bollocks you would - Players are gonna be pissed off with this - what a complete tool

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:49 pm

TRose69 wrote:So he tells the players that they are getting £3.7 million bonus for staying up before checking with advisors and then he recinded the offer straight away...

If your boss offered you a large bonus then minutes later said sorry I can't give you this money anymore because I didn't get authorisation - would you be okay with that?

Bollocks you would - Players are gonna be pissed off with this - what a complete tool


So your saying the players didn't know the rules either and are now crying their eyes out!! FFS players through their agents know everything about how you can earn money in a game they have grown up around. As stated by the Club's chairman, Tan will work closely on next years contracts and bonuses, hinting that next years contracts may well include some 'bonus' should the club remain in the division at the end of this season.

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:26 am

castle view blu wrote:Meant well.

Do you think he did that out of the goodness of his heart.

Hes a business man and hes worried about relegation which will cost him dearly.

If we stay up he'll get that back no trouble at all





And (with respect) that will all add up to being beneficial for Cardiff City FC ;)

Why you should laugh at that is beyond me! :roll: :oops:

Re: CARDIFF UNLIKELY TO FACE ACTION

Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:24 pm

bluelover wrote:
TRose69 wrote:So he tells the players that they are getting £3.7 million bonus for staying up before checking with advisors and then he recinded the offer straight away...

If your boss offered you a large bonus then minutes later said sorry I can't give you this money anymore because I didn't get authorisation - would you be okay with that?

Bollocks you would - Players are gonna be pissed off with this - what a complete tool


So your saying the players didn't know the rules either and are now crying their eyes out!! FFS players through their agents know everything about how you can earn money in a game they have grown up around. As stated by the Club's chairman, Tan will work closely on next years contracts and bonuses, hinting that next years contracts may well include some 'bonus' should the club remain in the division at the end of this season.


:lol:

Do not take my comment then bastardize it to suit you're agenda

I am saying that in any work environment - If a boss tells his employees that they have the opportunity to get a bonus - then minutes after this statement comes back and retracts his offer because he didn't get authorization then his employees are not going to react well - regardless of how much they are payed

I doubt that many/any of them did know this rule - lets not bullshit and pretend that any of the fans did. You are right in saying that the players all have agents who negotiate their salaries for them so why didn't Tan approach the agents instead...

Tans chairman can come out with as many statements as he likes - he is trying to smooth over yet another f**k up from our joke of an administration

It is laughable