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VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:10 am

Now you may not like it but you've got your answer's in that interview,red is here to stay,vinnys here to stay.

Get behind the team and stop moaning we're in good hands.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:32 pm

90% are realists and are behind mr tan
:ayatollah:

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:38 pm

The other 10% are natural born moaners who if it wasn't city would find something else to moan about,there's no pleasing some people .

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:39 pm

Sparrow Legs wrote:90% are realists and are behind mr tan
:ayatollah:


Really? Behind a change in colour, change in badge and potentially change in name?

All for Premier League football, which we will be without next year.

How come 17 clubs a year survive the Premier League year in year out without a complete club re-branding?

It's worked for them but not us, so why would you behind "mr tan" (which should be Mr. Tan)

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:41 pm

redordead wrote:Now you may not like it but you've got your answer's in that interview,red is here to stay,vinnys here to stay.

Get behind the team and stop moaning we're in good hands.


I will never think we are in good hands with Tan at the helm with his ridiculous red rebrand. I would rather us blue in League 2. I'm fed up being an "ungrateful customer", being a tiny cog in a money churning Premiership/Sky/Vincent Tan machine. This season has been dreadful, not because of the results, but because Tan has ruined our club even further! Sod Tan, the Premiership and the plastics wanting success at any costs. Long live our identity and the grass roots!

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:44 pm

The new "sell my soul for glory" football fan, identified by their lack of rationale, loyalty and their sparrow like legs, shameful.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:45 pm

Sparrow Legs wrote:90% are realists and are behind mr tan
:ayatollah:


You were moaning the other day to me that you wanted blue back and talking about a blue card protest you hypocrite :lol:
I've heard it all now.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:48 pm

BluBluBluArmy wrote:
Sparrow Legs wrote:90% are realists and are behind mr tan
:ayatollah:


Really? Behind a change in colour, change in badge and potentially change in name?

All for Premier League football, which we will be without next year.

How come 17 clubs a year survive the Premier League year in year out without a complete club re-branding?

It's worked for them but not us, so why would you behind "mr tan" (which should be Mr. Tan)

spelling alert spelling alert,i do apologise.
Your obviously one of the 10% gang,moan about anything even spelling.
We're not down yet a long way to go.
tans very clever,city are getting bigger in Asia day by day,we're at the beginning of a journey to make Cardiff a global brand.Support it.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:48 pm

If moaning about not recognising the club I supported is wrong, I'm a minority, then it's time I stopped caring. Terrible attitudes of some fans on here, youz make me queasy

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:51 pm

Sparrow Legs wrote:
BluBluBluArmy wrote:
Sparrow Legs wrote:90% are realists and are behind mr tan
:ayatollah:


Really? Behind a change in colour, change in badge and potentially change in name?

All for Premier League football, which we will be without next year.

How come 17 clubs a year survive the Premier League year in year out without a complete club re-branding?

It's worked for them but not us, so why would you behind "mr tan" (which should be Mr. Tan)

spelling alert spelling alert,i do apologise.
Your obviously one of the 10% gang,moan about anything even spelling.
We're not down yet a long way to go.
tans very clever,city are getting bigger in Asia day by day,we're at the beginning of a journey to make Cardiff a global brand.Support it.


That's not my Cardiff city playing in that horrendous kit and badge. We are the blue and always will be.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:04 pm

Sparrow Legs wrote:
BluBluBluArmy wrote:
Sparrow Legs wrote:90% are realists and are behind mr tan
:ayatollah:


Really? Behind a change in colour, change in badge and potentially change in name?

All for Premier League football, which we will be without next year.

How come 17 clubs a year survive the Premier League year in year out without a complete club re-branding?

It's worked for them but not us, so why would you behind "mr tan" (which should be Mr. Tan)

spelling alert spelling alert,i do apologise.
Your obviously one of the 10% gang,moan about anything even spelling.
We're not down yet a long way to go.
tans very clever,city are getting bigger in Asia day by day,we're at the beginning of a journey to make Cardiff a global brand.Support it.


Have fun supporting Tan and the Cardiff Dragons, when Tan moves home games to 7am so it can be watched at 3pm in Malaysia, and half our games are played out in Kuala Lumpur to engage with our new fanbase.

Why should anyone in Cardiff give a damn about being a global brand? What is that going to do for us? Fill our stadium with snap happy tourists like Man Utd.

Whatever happened to making the community your team is from proud of their football club? Doing things for fans who have dedicated decades to their club? Representing the City the club was founded in?

All Cardiff City is right now is a perfect example of how money has taken over football and a foreign investor is using a once proud club as a money maker in their homeland.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:08 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
Sparrow Legs wrote:90% are realists and are behind mr tan
:ayatollah:


You were moaning the other day to me that you wanted blue back and talking about a blue card protest you hypocrite :lol:
I've heard it all now.

i don't think i was,you were the one moaning and i told you to do something about it if you were that upset,i also told you i don't like protests.And my comments on the card protest was it wouldn't be allowed for health and safety reasons,they might be used as frisbees.Check my posts if you like,so get your facts straight.(little balls).

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:12 pm

BluBluBluArmy wrote:
Sparrow Legs wrote:
BluBluBluArmy wrote:
Sparrow Legs wrote:90% are realists and are behind mr tan
:ayatollah:


Really? Behind a change in colour, change in badge and potentially change in name?

All for Premier League football, which we will be without next year.

How come 17 clubs a year survive the Premier League year in year out without a complete club re-branding?

It's worked for them but not us, so why would you behind "mr tan" (which should be Mr. Tan)

spelling alert spelling alert,i do apologise.
Your obviously one of the 10% gang,moan about anything even spelling.
We're not down yet a long way to go.
tans very clever,city are getting bigger in Asia day by day,we're at the beginning of a journey to make Cardiff a global brand.Support it.


Have fun supporting Tan and the Cardiff Dragons, when Tan moves home games to 7am so it can be watched at 3pm in Malaysia, and half our games are played out in Kuala Lumpur to engage with our new fanbase.

Why should anyone in Cardiff give a damn about being a global brand? What is that going to do for us? Fill our stadium with snap happy tourists like Man Utd.

Whatever happened to making the community your team is from proud of their football club? Doing things for fans who have dedicated decades to their club? Representing the City the club was founded in?

All Cardiff City is right now is a perfect example of how money has taken over football and a foreign investor is using a once proud club as a money maker in their homeland.

We can only dream of being as big as Utd,but we all have to start somewhere.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:17 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
redordead wrote:Now you may not like it but you've got your answer's in that interview,red is here to stay,vinnys here to stay.

Get behind the team and stop moaning we're in good hands.


I will never think we are in good hands with Tan at the helm with his ridiculous red rebrand. I would rather us blue in League 2. I'm fed up being an "ungrateful customer", being a tiny cog in a money churning Premiership/Sky/Vincent Tan machine. This season has been dreadful, not because of the results, but because Tan has ruined our club even further! Sod Tan, the Premiership and the plastics wanting success at any costs. Long live our identity and the grass roots!



This echo's my sentiments exactly.....

I wonder how many "football fans" from Cardiff have renewed by today ?

Most Cardiff City fans (except the protesters) have renewed

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:30 pm

Sparrow Legs wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Sparrow Legs wrote:90% are realists and are behind mr tan
:ayatollah:


You were moaning the other day to me that you wanted blue back and talking about a blue card protest you hypocrite :lol:
I've heard it all now.

i don't think i was,you were the one moaning and i told you to do something about it if you were that upset,i also told you i don't like protests.And my comments on the card protest was it wouldn't be allowed for health and safety reasons,they might be used as frisbees.Check my posts if you like,so get your facts straight.(little balls).


:lol: calm down dear, you can fetch your Liverpool top out for next season if we go down. (Sellout)

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:42 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
Sparrow Legs wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
Sparrow Legs wrote:90% are realists and are behind mr tan
:ayatollah:


You were moaning the other day to me that you wanted blue back and talking about a blue card protest you hypocrite :lol:
I've heard it all now.

i don't think i was,you were the one moaning and i told you to do something about it if you were that upset,i also told you i don't like protests.And my comments on the card protest was it wouldn't be allowed for health and safety reasons,they might be used as frisbees.Check my posts if you like,so get your facts straight.(little balls).


:lol: calm down dear, you can fetch your Liverpool top out for next season if we go down. (Sellout)

Grow a pair ffs

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:53 pm

He will need a reality check when we are half way up the championship table with a manager who has lost his way, playing sheff wed on a tuesday night in front of 15000 fans in blue.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:59 pm

The rebrand aside he did talk some sense in that interview

Malky wouldnt have got promoted without his investment, and he did waste a lot of money in the summer.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:21 pm

redordead wrote:Now you may not like it but you've got your answer's in that interview,red is here to stay,vinnys here to stay.

Get behind the team and stop moaning we're in good hands.


Outside now.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:35 pm

[quote="Bluebird_87]
That's not my Cardiff city playing in that horrendous kit and badge. We are the blue and always will be.[/quote]

I totally understand where you are coming from.

I want us to return to blue like virtually everyone else.

Sadly at present we are NOT blue, so we have one of two choices.

Support the team as they are Cardiff City FC, playing out of the Cardiff City Stadium in Cardiff.

Or unfortunately stop supporting the team IF the change of colour is too much for you to face.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:43 pm

Gutless Loser.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:45 pm

JDerrida wrote:[quote="Bluebird_87]
That's not my Cardiff city playing in that horrendous kit and badge. We are the blue and always will be.[/quote]

I totally understand where you are coming from.

I want us to return to blue like virtually everyone else.

Sadly at present we are NOT blue, so we have one of two choices.

Support the team as they are Cardiff City FC, playing out of the Cardiff City Stadium in Cardiff.

Or unfortunately stop supporting the team IF the change of colour is too much for you to face.[/quote]


That's the predicament I'm in, but I'm not going to let some man stop me going down a place I've been going since I was a little boy. I won't buy anything that is not the real Cardiff city at present. Tan knows fans are starting to wise up to his dictatorship and are wearing more blue. He can play it down all he likes but the blue is clear to see in the stadium.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:48 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
JDerrida wrote:[quote="Bluebird_87]
That's not my Cardiff city playing in that horrendous kit and badge. We are the blue and always will be.[/quote]

I totally understand where you are coming from.

I want us to return to blue like virtually everyone else.

Sadly at present we are NOT blue, so we have one of two choices.

Support the team as they are Cardiff City FC, playing out of the Cardiff City Stadium in Cardiff.

Or unfortunately stop supporting the team IF the change of colour is too much for you to face.[/quote][/quote]

That's the predicament I'm in, but I'm not going to let some man stop me going down a place I've been going since I was a little boy. I won't buy anything that is not the real Cardiff city at present. Tan knows fans are starting to wise up to his dictatorship and are wearing more blue. He can play it down all he likes but the blue is clear to see in the stadium.[/quote]

your not doing enough

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:49 pm

He's Spartacus wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
JDerrida wrote:[quote="Bluebird_87]
That's not my Cardiff city playing in that horrendous kit and badge. We are the blue and always will be.[/quote]

I totally understand where you are coming from.

I want us to return to blue like virtually everyone else.

Sadly at present we are NOT blue, so we have one of two choices.

Support the team as they are Cardiff City FC, playing out of the Cardiff City Stadium in Cardiff.

Or unfortunately stop supporting the team IF the change of colour is too much for you to face.[/quote][/quote]

That's the predicament I'm in, but I'm not going to let some man stop me going down a place I've been going since I was a little boy. I won't buy anything that is not the real Cardiff city at present. Tan knows fans are starting to wise up to his dictatorship and are wearing more blue. He can play it down all he likes but the blue is clear to see in the stadium.[/quote][/quote][/quote]
your not doing enough[/quote]


I don't understand what you mean by that?

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:06 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
JDerrida wrote:[quote="Bluebird_87]
That's not my Cardiff city playing in that horrendous kit and badge. We are the blue and always will be.[/quote]

I totally understand where you are coming from.

I want us to return to blue like virtually everyone else.

Sadly at present we are NOT blue, so we have one of two choices.

Support the team as they are Cardiff City FC, playing out of the Cardiff City Stadium in Cardiff.

Or unfortunately stop supporting the team IF the change of colour is too much for you to face.[/quote][/quote]

That's the predicament I'm in, but I'm not going to let some man stop me going down a place I've been going since I was a little boy. I won't buy anything that is not the real Cardiff city at present. Tan knows fans are starting to wise up to his dictatorship and are wearing more blue. He can play it down all he likes but the blue is clear to see in the stadium.[/quote]


Totally understand where you and so many others stand Bluebird 87.

I hate the rebrand, but Tan has made it clear that while he is owner red will remain.

There lies the choice that only you can make for yourself.

Apart from the rebrand and a few mistakes, Tan has actually improved Cardiff City immeasurably.

I understand the upset, the anger, disappointment, but OUR identity remains as fans. Our team are still called Cardiff City, playing in the Cardiff City Stadium in Cardiff.

We are THE Cardiff team, OUR team. Tan can NEVER take that away.

We are on a journey, as a team, as fans and Tan as an owner.

The next couple of years will hopefully get us established as a PL team in a larger stadium with a great infrastructure.

It's at that point that Tan is most likely to sell and then as Tan said himself, maybe, hopefully we will return to blue.

In the meantime we have to make some tough decisions individually, whether we support OUR team and stop all the bickering about Malky, Ole, different players, etc, remain continually angry and annoyed for the next few years, or leave until Tan leaves.

I've seen so many awful things that change people's identity, dreadful facial burns, cancer of the mouth and nose, awful accidents affecting people's faces, breast removal, even rarely a penis removal due to cancer and much more.

All of these dreadful things affect a person's identity or even their sexual identity.

Often people in their loss of identity will go through what is commonly known as 5 Stages of Grief.

Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
and finally Acceptance.

That is all so familiar with what is still happening to so many fans.

Sorry for the heavy reply, but I hope it can help some move on from the way they currently feel to a more realistic, constructive and healthier way of being.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:14 pm

JDerrida wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
JDerrida wrote:[quote="Bluebird_87]
That's not my Cardiff city playing in that horrendous kit and badge. We are the blue and always will be.[/quote]

I totally understand where you are coming from.

I want us to return to blue like virtually everyone else.

Sadly at present we are NOT blue, so we have one of two choices.

Support the team as they are Cardiff City FC, playing out of the Cardiff City Stadium in Cardiff.

Or unfortunately stop supporting the team IF the change of colour is too much for you to face.[/quote][/quote]

That's the predicament I'm in, but I'm not going to let some man stop me going down a place I've been going since I was a little boy. I won't buy anything that is not the real Cardiff city at present. Tan knows fans are starting to wise up to his dictatorship and are wearing more blue. He can play it down all he likes but the blue is clear to see in the stadium.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

Totally understand where you and so many others stand Bluebird 87.

I hate the rebrand, but Tan has made it clear that while he is owner red will remain.

There lies the choice that only you can make for yourself.

Apart from the rebrand and a few mistakes, Tan has actually improved Cardiff City immeasurably.

I understand the upset, the anger, disappointment, but OUR identity remains as fans. Our team are still called Cardiff City, playing in the Cardiff City Stadium in Cardiff.

We are THE Cardiff team, OUR team. Tan can NEVER take that away.

We are on a journey, as a team, as fans and Tan as an owner.

The next couple of years will hopefully get us established as a PL team in a larger stadium with a great infrastructure.

It's at that point that Tan is most likely to sell and then as Tan said himself, maybe, hopefully we will return to blue.

In the meantime we have to make some tough decisions individually, whether we support OUR team and stop all the bickering about Malky, Ole, different players, etc, remain continually angry and annoyed for the next few years, or leave until Tan leaves.

I've seen so many awful things that change people's identity, dreadful facial burns, cancer of the mouth and nose, awful accidents affecting people's faces, breast removal, even rarely a penis removal due to cancer and much more.

All of these dreadful things affect a person's identity or even their sexual identity.

Often people in their loss of identity will go through what is commonly known as 5 Stages of Grief.

Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
and finally Acceptance.

That is all so familiar with what is still happening to so many fans.

Sorry for the heavy reply, but I hope it can help some move on from the way they currently feel to a more realistic, constructive and healthier way of being.[/quote]


I think I'm in the denial/anger stage at the moment :lol: it doesn't help that he does his attention seeking interviews, stirring it all up again.

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:23 pm

anyone remember Homer Simpson going through these stages of denial after he'd eaten an apparent fatal portion of blowfish??

Classic - even the bit where the doctor tells him he hasn't actually got 24 hours to live as they took a while to get round to him :lol:

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:28 pm

Bluebird_87 wrote:
JDerrida wrote:
Bluebird_87 wrote:
JDerrida wrote:[quote="Bluebird_87]
That's not my Cardiff city playing in that horrendous kit and badge. We are the blue and always will be.[/quote]

I totally understand where you are coming from.

I want us to return to blue like virtually everyone else.

Sadly at present we are NOT blue, so we have one of two choices.

Support the team as they are Cardiff City FC, playing out of the Cardiff City Stadium in Cardiff.

Or unfortunately stop supporting the team IF the change of colour is too much for you to face.[/quote][/quote]

That's the predicament I'm in, but I'm not going to let some man stop me going down a place I've been going since I was a little boy. I won't buy anything that is not the real Cardiff city at present. Tan knows fans are starting to wise up to his dictatorship and are wearing more blue. He can play it down all he likes but the blue is clear to see in the stadium.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

Totally understand where you and so many others stand Bluebird 87.

I hate the rebrand, but Tan has made it clear that while he is owner red will remain.

There lies the choice that only you can make for yourself.

Apart from the rebrand and a few mistakes, Tan has actually improved Cardiff City immeasurably.

I understand the upset, the anger, disappointment, but OUR identity remains as fans. Our team are still called Cardiff City, playing in the Cardiff City Stadium in Cardiff.

We are THE Cardiff team, OUR team. Tan can NEVER take that away.

We are on a journey, as a team, as fans and Tan as an owner.

The next couple of years will hopefully get us established as a PL team in a larger stadium with a great infrastructure.

It's at that point that Tan is most likely to sell and then as Tan said himself, maybe, hopefully we will return to blue.

In the meantime we have to make some tough decisions individually, whether we support OUR team and stop all the bickering about Malky, Ole, different players, etc, remain continually angry and annoyed for the next few years, or leave until Tan leaves.

I've seen so many awful things that change people's identity, dreadful facial burns, cancer of the mouth and nose, awful accidents affecting people's faces, breast removal, even rarely a penis removal due to cancer and much more.

All of these dreadful things affect a person's identity or even their sexual identity.

Often people in their loss of identity will go through what is commonly known as 5 Stages of Grief.

Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
and finally Acceptance.

That is all so familiar with what is still happening to so many fans.

Sorry for the heavy reply, but I hope it can help some move on from the way they currently feel to a more realistic, constructive and healthier way of being.[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]

I think I'm in the denial/anger stage at the moment :lol: it doesn't help that he does his attention seeking interviews, stirring it all up again.[/quote]


I believe you are correct on both points :thumbup:

Re: VINNY GIVES FANS REALITY CHECK

Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:30 am

A lot of good sense there mate. :thumbup: