POST TAN INTERVIEW: HAVE YOUR SAY!

In the aftermath of Tan's interview with the BBC I have broken down some of the key points into sub threads so that we can discuss and air our opinions on the specific points of the interview in a thread that is not going to get bogged down to much, there is clearly lots to discuss these sub threads will allow us to do that on a point by point basis.



Vincent Tan interview can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137247


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I really think VT has his head in the clouds if he thinks we have a decent chance of avoiding relegation now, we will need massive luck, our squad to up their game massively, results to go our way, quite frankly i think we need a miracle.

Here's to hoping though

Tans comments that 90% of the fans are behind him, shows what a joke he is. Then why is our stadium at least now 80% BLUE and away 99% BLUE ?
Season ticket sales so far are well down and that's a fact.
Also his threats are pathetic, all he has done is made our fans even more against him.

The 90% comment is my main interest.

95% want blue without a doubt. Just how much of that 95% are willing to become active about getting the blue back is my concern. At the moment I would say very few hence why Tan feels he has 90% backing.

We're not f***ing sorry
We're not f***ing sorry
Vincent Tan
We're not f***ing sorry

The man has no idea of British football culture, humility or respect. I am almost glad I can't afford to renew. He has made my mind up for me .

Intafada

Tans comments that 90% of the fans are behind him, shows what a joke he is. Then why is our stadium at least now 80% BLUE and away 99% BLUE ?
Season ticket sales so far are well down and that's a fact.
Also his threats are pathetic, all he has done is made our fans even more against him.

He is wrong that 90% are behind him . But he's right that only 10% are against him at most .
The problem is the rest just don't care and wear what they want and don't get involved in arguments over the rebrand. Some games there seems a lot of red others there's mostly blue .

This seems to put an end to the notion that tan doesn't care what people think of him or his ideas. He appears to be saying it could be possible to force him to leave. So, we just need to continue to be 'ungrateful' for a bit longer.

In the meantime, I wouldn't want to be OGS with tan's intention to be more hands on re transfers etc. It's going to get messy. He seems incapable of blaming himself for any of our problems, while still going on about lucky the colour red is. As for the 5 - 10 % of fans not supporting him, surely he can't believe that ?

All in all, I thought it was a poor attempt to get the fence sitters onside, and more evidence of the ongoing fiasco to come. I was really disappointed that he stooped to the racism accusation. If this is the case, why isn't he suing ?

One day we'll all wake up to find it was only a bad dream.

Just read the bbc piece and I think what he's saying really is that this is my club / business and I'll do what I want. Like it or lump it. His comments are deliberately controversial and sound like an attempt to drive out the forces that he believes are against him (pro blue, pro tradition...) by staring that as king as he's there we will never have our version of the club back. My only problem now is how I take up the challenge, do I go with FU that's it I won't be back til you've gone or do I stay, stand tall and say this is MY club and I'm not going anywhere and continue to fight for a return.

90% of fans are not behind him..
The vast majority are not interested in any of the other stuff that goes on at the club If he wants the fans to unite just turn us back to blue Simple..
We can avoid relegation but that is not the main issue with the club Identity is..

The only protest that will work is through not going. He as said as much himself.

90% of fans are not behind him..
The vast majority are not interested in any of the other stuff that goes on at the club If he wants the fans to unite just turn us back to blue Simple..
We can avoid relegation but that is not the main issue with the club Identity is..

No I would say 5% support him 15% are blue and 80% don't care . He will see the don't care % as his happy customers imo

I didn't see much wrong with it to be honest. You have to see and listen to the interview not read it,IMO.
I'm not going to defend Tan. I don't like the Red but as with many it's not a game changer for me, I see Tan as just the current owner, we have had good and bad owners throughout our history, Tan will be judged when he leaves, as he certainly will do one day. Cardiff City will continue and he will then be just another part of it's history.However it may have been gone now had he not intervened.
An opinion in an earlier post saying that 90% of the fans are not with him but only 10% are against him I think is very true.Most fans I believe just want to see City doing well.But would prefer us in blue
I think he and Lim did trust malky/Moody to spend the 35million budget responsibly because they were the "football experts" this he admitted was a mistake, that he wouldn't be making again.His intention to be more involved this summer I took to mean as regards the contracts and add ons which from what we all understand is what pissed him off with the 15 million overspend, and imo quite rightly.I cannot imagine/hope to God him being involved at all regarding the choice of players we will go for.
Tan is a little eccentric but no where near as mad as the media like to portray.The media like to be the ones building people up to then knock them down, and they don't like someone doing it for them which is why they all came to the defence of Malky.Malky did ok for us, but with the money he was given he should have achieved a great deal more imo.A couple of his deals look very dubious to say the least.He did however get us up and and achieve a lot for this club, but again, he is now just a part of our history.
One day Red will also just be part of our history.

To quote Churchill:

Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

You know who Mr Tan reminds in of in this photo on the BBC Sport website? Mr Igoe from the 1987 movie Innerspace.

Igoe: Geddit? I go?

Mr Igoe.


Mr Tan.



PS Was Sir Tim Berners Lee the world's first websire?

It's a great interview and gives us hope. Tan is ready to walk, so lets make him walk and the restoration of the blue will follow.

Dissapointing interview as nothing of any note was said, our fans love a good rant about tan but nothing was said that is new to us?

While 90% of fans may not be "behind him" anyone going to games is supporting his actions im afraid. Bland interview though.

Renewed ST for next year as I like row JJ right at the back and the following year I will qualify for seniors rate.Begining to regret now as I thought after all the turmoil and Tan's absence recently that we had a chance of going back to blue for next season whichever league we're in.I'll give it another year but if nothing changes I'll just leave my club to the new breed of followers .I'll listen to the games on Radio Wales with Jason Perry's cracking commentary but at least Cardiff will be in blue in me 'ed.

The 90% comment is my main interest.

95% want blue without a doubt. Just how much of that 95% are willing to become active about getting the blue back is my concern. At the moment I would say very few hence why Tan feels he has 90% backing.

90% just want to support CCFC and appreciate VT's investment into the club, even if 85% think he has been a right idiot at times.

As much as we all want him gone and our colour and badge back. What sort of financial shit would we be in if he did leave?

It's weird that all of my mates hate the red and most hate Tan but I'm told we are a minority.

Maybe I hang with the wrong crowd but most people I know do care. Most people I know hat the c**t.

It's weird that all of my mates hate the red and most hate Tan but I'm told we are a minority.

Maybe I hang with the wrong crowd but most people I know do care. Most people I know hat the .

I hardly know anyone who hates Tan, most people I know just want to support CCFC, whatever colour, whatever division, whatever is going on.

How's life in Cyncoed?

It's weird that all of my mates hate the red and most hate Tan but I'm told we are a minority.

Maybe I hang with the wrong crowd but most people I know do care. Most people I know hat the .

I hardly know anyone who hates Tan, most people I know just want to support CCFC, whatever colour, whatever division, whatever is going on.

I agree I know 2/3 people who hate him the rest either think he's done well on everything apart from the rebrand or don't give a f**k either way .
Not many hate the man just disagree with him and hate the rebrand

Tan said that he thinks of the club as a business. That says it all.

I'd quite enjoyed him keeping out of the spotlight, and was beginning to think we might get something against Spurs.

I doubt Tan's words will do anything to help the players focus on the massive job at hand.

It's weird that all of my mates hate the red and most hate Tan but I'm told we are a minority.

Maybe I hang with the wrong crowd but most people I know do care. Most people I know hat the .

I hardly know anyone who hates Tan, most people I know just want to support CCFC, whatever colour, whatever division, whatever is going on.

I agree I know 2/3 people who hate him the rest either think he's done well on everything apart from the rebrand or don't give a f**k either way .
Not many hate the man just disagree with him and hate the rebrand

In all seriousness, most people I know hate him.

Also, I (as most people) know heaps of people who support other teams and think he's a disgrace to the beautiful game.

It's weird that all of my mates hate the red and most hate Tan but I'm told we are a minority.

Maybe I hang with the wrong crowd but most people I know do care. Most people I know hat the .

I hardly know anyone who hates Tan, most people I know just want to support CCFC, whatever colour, whatever division, whatever is going on.

I agree I know 2/3 people who hate him the rest either think he's done well on everything apart from the rebrand or don't give a f**k either way .
Not many hate the man just disagree with him and hate the rebrand

In all seriousness, most people I know hate him.

Also, I (as most people) know heaps of people who support other teams and think he's a disgrace to the beautiful game.

From what I hear from people I know and go with they hate the rebrand and have a dislike for him due to that .
What he has done in that respect is a disgrace to the game and its moral fibre
I struggle to think of anything else he has done that has been wrong tbh ,and other than the rebrand has been a decent owner and would be very well liked if it wasn't for that . He's just a bit of an excentric

The guy's a bellend, simple.

It's weird that all of my mates hate the red and most hate Tan but I'm told we are a minority.

Maybe I hang with the wrong crowd but most people I know do care. Most people I know hat the .

I hardly know anyone who hates Tan, most people I know just want to support CCFC, whatever colour, whatever division, whatever is going on.

I agree I know 2/3 people who hate him the rest either think he's done well on everything apart from the rebrand or don't give a f**k either way .
Not many hate the man just disagree with him and hate the rebrand

In all seriousness, most people I know hate him.

Also, I (as most people) know heaps of people who support other teams and think he's a disgrace to the beautiful game.

From what I hear from people I know and go with they hate the rebrand and have a dislike for him due to that .
What he has done in that respect is a disgrace to the game and its moral fibre
I struggle to think of anything else he has done that has been wrong tbh ,and other than the rebrand has been a decent owner and would be very well liked if it wasn't for that . He's just a bit of an excentric

Tom, in all seriousness you say just the rebrand, that's massive. Also, he basically said f**k the Cardiff fans. Apart from his dubiously accumulated wealth who the f**k is he?

It's weird that all of my mates hate the red and most hate Tan but I'm told we are a minority.

Maybe I hang with the wrong crowd but most people I know do care. Most people I know hat the .

I hardly know anyone who hates Tan, most people I know just want to support CCFC, whatever colour, whatever division, whatever is going on.

I agree I know 2/3 people who hate him the rest either think he's done well on everything apart from the rebrand or don't give a f**k either way .
Not many hate the man just disagree with him and hate the rebrand

In all seriousness, most people I know hate him.

Also, I (as most people) know heaps of people who support other teams and think he's a disgrace to the beautiful game.

From what I hear from people I know and go with they hate the rebrand and have a dislike for him due to that .
What he has done in that respect is a disgrace to the game and its moral fibre
I struggle to think of anything else he has done that has been wrong tbh ,and other than the rebrand has been a decent owner and would be very well liked if it wasn't for that . He's just a bit of an excentric

Tom, in all seriousness you say just the rebrand, that's massive. Also, he basically said f**k the Cardiff fans. Apart from his dubiously accumulated wealth who the f**k is he?

Don't get me wrong I have a dislike for him because of the rebrand which is a huge problem at this club .
But I also see him do a lot of good for the club and the local community which is annoying because he could and should have been a hero here .

Tan could have been an absolute hero. I guess his arrogance and naivety turned our first season at the top into a farce whereby all attention was off the pitch and on the pitch we suffered as the fans and players picked up on the unessassarry egomania.

Despite disliking the man for what he has done to our club, I can understand the business minded decisions to improve his profit margins. Afterall, we've known right from the beginning that he was in it for profit, nothing more. Whilst he doesn't have a clue about what this club means to us fans, and is willing to trample over our tradition and history in living memory, what has stuck in my throat is the willingness of some fans to roll over and have their tummy tickled in exchange for a season in the Premier League. Plastics are plastics, we can spot them a mile off, and once we are relegated back to the Championship, they will drift off back to their armchairs, watching their true loves of Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea et al on a Sunday afternoon.

Sure, I feel pain at the changes, and anger at the ease at which some supporters have rolled over, defending their actions with quotes of, "It's only a colour", "It's only a badge", "My kid wants the latest kit".

Bullshit. It's not just a colour. It's not just a badge. And if you're child is old enough to want the latest kit, then they are also old enough to have it explained to them that these things are not things that should be taken away from supporters, by a meglomaniac and his obscure bunch of Kenny Rodgers Roasters.

Us, the fans, have had the opportunity right from the beginning of the rumours that colours and badges would be changed, to stand up and be counted and tell Tan that it is not acceptable to make us the laughing stock of the country, on a mere whim. Red is not f*cking lucky. Luck is bullshit.

I am blue. I always will be blue and anyone i see wearing red will be a lesser fan in my eyes.

You all allowed Tan to push it in to the hilt, and now it hurts and you want him to stop?!

I'm saddened. This is not the Cardiff City I have loved and supported for nigh on 30 years.