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POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:11 am

In the aftermath of Tan's interview with the BBC I have broken down some of the key points into sub threads so that we can discuss and air our opinions on the specific points of the interview in a thread that is not going to get bogged down to much, there is clearly lots to discuss these sub threads will allow us to do that on a point by point basis.





Vincent Tan interview can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=137247 :thumbup:


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Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:34 am

Im not going to attack Tan, I know exactly what he wants so name-calling is pointless.

This goes out to all the Cardiff City Hippies:

"Ohhhew there's blue in the club shop yippy de."

"Maybe Tan is changing his mind on the rebrand."

Grow up you bunch of idiots, I know some of my posts are light-hearted but this is a serious matter.

STOP thinking the best of people & wake up to the reality

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:40 am

ThomasC wrote:Im not going to attack Tan, I know exactly what he wants so name-calling is pointless.

This goes out to all the Cardiff City Hippies:

"Ohhhew there's blue in the club shop yippy de."

"Maybe Tan is changing his mind on the rebrand."

Grow up you bunch of idiots, I know some of my posts are light-hearted but this is a serious matter.

STOP thinking the best of people & wake up to the reality


If you want to talk seriously then I suggest you knock the name calling on the head.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:41 am

Well that basically tell sus who want our identity back what we need to do.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:47 am

I was of the opinion that we could affect change by turning up wearing blue etc. Sadly, it's now clear that this was never and will never work as Tan just sees us as consumers, bums on seats who can be replaced.

Buying anything from the club, from a scarf to a season ticket, is endorsing what he's doing. Regardless of whether you agree with the rebrand or not.

I suppose it comes down to whether or not you feel stronger about identity or playing in the Premier League.
Last edited by NeathBlue on Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:50 am, edited 2 times in total.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:47 am

Bakedalasker wrote:Well that basically tell sus who want our identity back what we need to do.

Yea go out an find a billionaire :lol:

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:47 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
ThomasC wrote:Im not going to attack Tan, I know exactly what he wants so name-calling is pointless.

This goes out to all the Cardiff City Hippies:

"Ohhhew there's blue in the club shop yippy de."

"Maybe Tan is changing his mind on the rebrand."

Grow up you bunch of idiots, I know some of my posts are light-hearted but this is a serious matter.

STOP thinking the best of people & wake up to the reality


If you want to talk seriously then I suggest you knock the name calling on the head.


No offence to the zombies, but I have not singled out any one person, a mere generalisation & in my opinion just

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:52 am

We will get stronger and stronger and We will never go away.
We will return to BLUE,maybe not under the Dictator,but as long as our fans keep turning up more and more in BLUE, we will win in the end.
And rem this we will be here long after the Clown has left our once proud club. :thumbup:


:ayatollah: " WE ARE CARDIFF CITY WE WILL ALWAYS BE BLUE " :ayatollah:

I will be protesting before the Liverpool home game. :thumbup:

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:56 am

Forever Blue wrote:We will get stronger and stronger and We will never go away.
We will return to BLUE,maybe not under the Dictator,but as long as our fans keep turning up more and more in BLUE, we will win in the end.
And rem this we will be here long after the Clown has left our once proud club. :thumbup:


:ayatollah: " WE ARE CARDIFF CITY WE WILL ALWAYS BE BLUE " :ayatollah:

I will be protesting before the Liverpool home game. :thumbup:


Im going to be there Annis!! :ayatollah: I won't attend the match though (won't get a ticket as it's a big game)

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:59 am

We need the protest to be there when Tan gets there. Turning up at half 1 when he's sitting down eating his 5 course meal is no good.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:03 am

I hate the way he talks about the fans as if they are his enemy.

Throwing threats around of leaving yet he says 90% back him, so wtf is he on about?.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:04 am

Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Well that basically tell sus who want our identity back what we need to do.

Yea go out an find a billionaire :lol:


Are you not prepared to drop a few leagues to get back what we are?

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:11 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Well that basically tell sus who want our identity back what we need to do.

Yea go out an find a billionaire :lol:


Are you not prepared to drop a few leagues to get back what we are?

How's that going to pay off tan then?

You don't think he's just going to disappear and not want any money back do you?

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:14 am

Unfortunately this confirms what I said in a recent post regarding the blue in the shop. It's just retro stuff that has been on order for quite a long time & not the slow return to blue that most of us hope for.
The one positive is we know where we stand with our colours now.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:43 am

Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Well that basically tell sus who want our identity back what we need to do.

Yea go out an find a billionaire :lol:


Are you not prepared to drop a few leagues to get back what we are?

How's that going to pay off tan then?

You don't think he's just going to disappear and not want any money back do you?


To be honest I'm not bothered about paying Tan back.

Like any business you invest in you take your chance. The worse can happen is administration. Although I would like to avoid it if possible if it came to it then so be.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:46 am

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Unfortunately this confirms what I said in a recent post regarding the blue in the shop. It's just retro stuff that has been on order for quite a long time & not the slow return to blue that most of us hope for.
The one positive is we know where we stand with our colours now.


You did and practically got slated for it

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:47 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Well that basically tell sus who want our identity back what we need to do.

Yea go out an find a billionaire :lol:


Are you not prepared to drop a few leagues to get back what we are?

How's that going to pay off tan then?

You don't think he's just going to disappear and not want any money back do you?


To be honest I'm not bothered about paying Tan back.

Like any business you invest in you take your chance. The worse can happen is administration. Although I would like to avoid it if possible if it came to it then so be.

The worst than can happen is admin??

For a CVA to go through you need 75% of creditors to agree. As Tan owns 90% of the club you think he would send us into admin? He would wind us up as before he came in we were insolvent. He could then sell everything and keep all the money and not just a pittance in the pound.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:55 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Well that basically tell sus who want our identity back what we need to do.

Yea go out an find a billionaire :lol:


Are you not prepared to drop a few leagues to get back what we are?

How's that going to pay off tan then?

You don't think he's just going to disappear and not want any money back do you?


To be honest I'm not bothered about paying Tan back.

Like any business you invest in you take your chance. The worse can happen is administration. Although I would like to avoid it if possible if it came to it then so be.

The worst than can happen is admin??

For a CVA to go through you need 75% of creditors to agree. As Tan owns 90% of the club you think he would send us into admin? He would wind us up as before he came in we were insolvent. He could then sell everything and keep all the money and not just a pittance in the pound.


And how much do you think he would get Craig? A pittance that is all.

He would be better off finding an investor as he has mentioned before.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:57 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Well that basically tell sus who want our identity back what we need to do.

Yea go out an find a billionaire :lol:


Are you not prepared to drop a few leagues to get back what we are?

How's that going to pay off tan then?

You don't think he's just going to disappear and not want any money back do you?


To be honest I'm not bothered about paying Tan back.

Like any business you invest in you take your chance. The worse can happen is administration. Although I would like to avoid it if possible if it came to it then so be.

The worst than can happen is admin??

For a CVA to go through you need 75% of creditors to agree. As Tan owns 90% of the club you think he would send us into admin? He would wind us up as before he came in we were insolvent. He could then sell everything and keep all the money and not just a pittance in the pound.


And how much do you think he would get Craig? A pittance that is all.

He would be better off finding an investor as he has mentioned before.

I agree, but you said "the worst that can happen is admin" when its clearly not the worst as that is liquidation.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:03 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Well that basically tell sus who want our identity back what we need to do.

Yea go out an find a billionaire :lol:


Are you not prepared to drop a few leagues to get back what we are?

How's that going to pay off tan then?

You don't think he's just going to disappear and not want any money back do you?


To be honest I'm not bothered about paying Tan back.

Like any business you invest in you take your chance. The worse can happen is administration. Although I would like to avoid it if possible if it came to it then so be.

The worst than can happen is admin??

For a CVA to go through you need 75% of creditors to agree. As Tan owns 90% of the club you think he would send us into admin? He would wind us up as before he came in we were insolvent. He could then sell everything and keep all the money and not just a pittance in the pound.


And how much do you think he would get Craig? A pittance that is all.

He would be better off finding an investor as he has mentioned before.

I agree, but you said "the worst that can happen is admin" when its clearly not the worst as that is liquidation.


But liquidation was never on the cards while admin is a remote possibility.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:07 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Well that basically tell sus who want our identity back what we need to do.

Yea go out an find a billionaire :lol:


Are you not prepared to drop a few leagues to get back what we are?

How's that going to pay off tan then?

You don't think he's just going to disappear and not want any money back do you?


To be honest I'm not bothered about paying Tan back.

Like any business you invest in you take your chance. The worse can happen is administration. Although I would like to avoid it if possible if it came to it then so be.

The worst than can happen is admin??

For a CVA to go through you need 75% of creditors to agree. As Tan owns 90% of the club you think he would send us into admin? He would wind us up as before he came in we were insolvent. He could then sell everything and keep all the money and not just a pittance in the pound.


And how much do you think he would get Craig? A pittance that is all.

He would be better off finding an investor as he has mentioned before.

I agree, but you said "the worst that can happen is admin" when its clearly not the worst as that is liquidation.


But liquidation was never on the cards while admin is a remote possibility.

He'd make more of his money back winding us up than putting us in admin

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:07 am

The best way to return to blue is to have a new owner.

An the most likely way for that to happen is if we stay in the premier league.

If we went down the divisions we'd be fucked. Portsmouth were lucky they survived. We wouldn't be able to start again either we're not an English club we'd have to play in the welsh league and that would just be f*cking shit.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:11 am

Forever Blue wrote:We will get stronger and stronger and We will never go away.
We will return to BLUE,maybe not under the Dictator,but as long as our fans keep turning up more and more in BLUE, we will win in the end.
And rem this we will be here long after the Clown has left our once proud club. :thumbup:


:ayatollah: " WE ARE CARDIFF CITY WE WILL ALWAYS BE BLUE " :ayatollah:

I will be protesting before the Liverpool home game. :thumbup:


Why not try a more combined approach to the protest this time? What we had for Malky was clearly effective but now is the chance to seize initiative. Try and organise a mass movement with CCST, BU and other interested groups and have enough people to make the point clear, would be great to see a properly organised mass movement that isn't violent but has a key aim.

Show Tan we want to talk to him, show him that its more than just 5-10% of the fans that don't like the colour. Do us proud :D :ayatollah:

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:42 am

He had a chance to build a bridge.
Instead he blew up the dam and flooded the village.
:evil:

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:45 am

AJ1927 wrote:He had a chance to build a bridge.
Instead he blew up the dam and flooded the village.
:evil:

That's bad.

Did anybody die?

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:47 am

AJ1927 wrote:He had a chance to build a bridge.
Instead he blew up the dam and flooded the village.
:evil:

You thought he was going to change back to blue?

He has said numerous times he wont be.

He doesnt need to build bridges, as far as he is concerned the capacity crowds at CCS tell him what he needs to know

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:48 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Well that basically tell sus who want our identity back what we need to do.

Yea go out an find a billionaire :lol:


Are you not prepared to drop a few leagues to get back what we are?

How's that going to pay off tan then?

You don't think he's just going to disappear and not want any money back do you?


To be honest I'm not bothered about paying Tan back.

Like any business you invest in you take your chance. The worse can happen is administration. Although I would like to avoid it if possible if it came to it then so be.


Well said, I'd actual smile if he made a loss, as long as we get our blue back that is.
Time for you to go Vincent :evil: Then again I've been saying that for 20 months.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:48 am

Forget all the beating around the bush, the man is a proven liar, he doesnt want to see blue he doesnt want his compatriots to see blue. He is worried, unless he is an idiot? He :ayatollah: will be gone sooner rather than later.

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:53 am

Bluebird86 wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:He had a chance to build a bridge.
Instead he blew up the dam and flooded the village.
:evil:

That's bad.

Did anybody die?

It's an analogy :? Not a Vietcong war story

Re: POST VT INTERVIEW: NEVER GOING BACK TO BLUE

Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:59 am

ThomasC wrote:
Bluebird86 wrote:
AJ1927 wrote:He had a chance to build a bridge.
Instead he blew up the dam and flooded the village.
:evil:

That's bad.

Did anybody die?

It's an analogy :? Not a Vietcong war story

Was the bridge steel girder or some other material?