What Football should learn from Rugby Part 1

In response to the Rugby T***s should get banning order threads I thought I would post areas of the game that Football should improve and learn from their egg catching counterparts.

Part 1 = Respect.

So football fans want the respect given to them that is afforded to others. Well I have heard some pretty dire arguments that violence was stopped in 80's which simply isn't true as football violence is still as much alive today as it ever was. The only difference is the policing of the games which has improved and cut the violence. Ask yourselves if the venues were not policed how long would it take for violence to break out?

Craig Bellamy was publicly shot down by some quarters for calling fans a few choice swear words but what was done by the club? Nothing. We see week in week out players rolling over, tripping over blades of grass not cut short enough, trying to cheat to gain an advantage being dishonest and using foul language directed towards referees and officials and using intimidation tactics to hijack the refereeing decisions.

I’m sure there are examples of the above nature that have occurred in Rugby previously so please don’t dig up links to try to hide behind the fact that this is a big problem in Football as more or less every football game players will cheat by feigning injury or surround the ref back chatting and acting like spoilt children.

What do the clubs do about this? You guessed it nothing. Again I’m sure there are examples of fines being issued etc for more serious offences but the lack of respect given to officials generally goes unpunished.

After Louis Picamoles was yellow carded against Wales last weekend he sarcastically applauded the ref, gave a thumbs up sign and displayed that spoilt brattish behaviour we see in each football game. What did his team do? You guessed it, they have dropped him and given a public statement saying "Certain attitudes have no place whatsoever in our sport."
You can be sure that Picamoles will think twice in future about how he conducts himself on the field in future and this is an example of how the clubs/teams in Rugby respond to what should be at the very heart of both Rugby and Football. Respect!
Should the football clubs do more to ensure that respect is at the forefront of the teams values?

Football can learn absolutely nothing from Rugby.

Rugby is a shit game made for rich stuck up cunts.

Football is for everybody.

Football can learn absolutely nothing from Rugby.

Rugby is a shit game made for rich stuck up cunts.

Football is for everybody.

Really? Rugby is a working class game unless of course your refering to the public schoolboy thing in England. In Wales and the rest of the World it's definately working class.

Football is for everybody? Maybe, but the fat kid always gets shoved in goals whilst Rugby has positions for short, tall, fast, slow, fat, skinny etc so that argument is nonsense.

Football can learn nothing from Rugby? I think the thread has clearly highlighted 1 area where football can improve especially seeing as some fans are moaning about the lack of respect they recieve from police etc.

You have included no facts, no thoughtful insight and just posted a load of tosh!

Football is for everyone. hahahahaha.

"that'll be 50 quid for 1 ticket please"

Football can learn absolutely nothing from Rugby.

Rugby is a shit game made for rich stuck up cunts.

Football is for everybody.

Really? Rugby is a working class game unless of course your refering to the public schoolboy thing in England. In Wales and the rest of the World it's definately working class.

Football is for everybody? Maybe, but the fat kid always gets shoved in goals whilst Rugby has positions for short, tall, fast, slow, fat, skinny etc so that argument is nonsense.

Football can learn nothing from Rugby? I think the thread has clearly highlighted 1 area where football can improve especially seeing as some fans are moaning about the lack of respect they recieve from police etc.

You have included no facts, no thoughtful insight and just posted a load of tosh!

Why would I include facts in an opinion.

Rugby is shit and I hope football never ever turns out like it.

There's more atmosphere in a fart then there is at the rugby.

We have next to no atmopshere around cardiff games compared to the bank holiday feeling, event that is welsh rugby gamedays.

Football is for everyone. hahahahaha.

"that'll be 50 quid for 1 ticket please"

Silly plonka you know there's more to football then the premier league.

Ok I get the fact you don't like rugby which is fair enough but if your going to make pretty sweeping statements that we both agree are not factual then there either lies or complete bollocks so I would think the importance of using facts is to have a valid opinion. I think we will just leave that one there but football can definitely learn a few things from rugby as I'm sure rugby can also learn from football ( commercial success springs to mind)

Football can learn absolutely nothing from Rugby.

Rugby is a shit game made for rich stuck up cunts.

Football is for everybody.

Really? Rugby is a working class game unless of course your refering to the public schoolboy thing in England. In Wales and the rest of the World it's definately working class.

Football is for everybody? Maybe, but the fat kid always gets shoved in goals whilst Rugby has positions for short, tall, fast, slow, fat, skinny etc so that argument is nonsense.

Football can learn nothing from Rugby? I think the thread has clearly highlighted 1 area where football can improve especially seeing as some fans are moaning about the lack of respect they recieve from police etc.

You have included no facts, no thoughtful insight and just posted a load of tosh!

Why would I include facts in an opinion.

Rugby is shit and I hope football never ever turns out like it.

There's more atmosphere in a fart then there is at the rugby.

More atmosphere in a fart??? And all I've been reading on here lately is how shit 'our' atmosphere is........
The trouble with football is the obscene wages the petulant superstars are paid. They have no respect for anything as they think they are better than everything.
To me the easiest way to install disapline into these players is to fine the manager. If he was getting hit with 4 or 5 fines every week for cheating, diving, abusing or any other play acting by his players he would soon put a stop to it. Having said that players like Rooney show no resect to their managers either.
PS. I played rugby all my life and 1. It ain't shit, 2. I ain't rich, 3. I ain't stuck up and 4. What gives you the right to call me a c**t?????

Typical that the first post is someone trying to f&ck up this thread by spouting crap rather than engaging.

Football can learn a lot from Rugby, I completely agree, unfortunately the elitist attitude of the powers to be in Football will never publicly accept this and that's why the game will not evolve in any other degree than economically.

Respect of officials and players is a huge issue in Football especially given the fact that Rugby players can handle themselves whilst being riled up to have to smash each other, and in football you can barely touch someone.

Whilst the TMO is a buzzkill at times, someone watching a screen and calling offside would in the majority of cases be quicker than the fat old fool running the line. Fouls in the penalty box from set pieces would also be much better policed with an official in the stands with a TV.

In response to the Rugby T***s should get banning order threads I thought I would post areas of the game that Football should improve and learn from their egg catching counterparts.

Part 1 = Respect.

So football fans want the respect given to them that is afforded to others. Well I have heard some pretty dire arguments that violence was stopped in 80's which simply isn't true as football violence is still as much alive today as it ever was. The only difference is the policing of the games which has improved and cut the violence. Ask yourselves if the venues were not policed how long would it take for violence to break out?

Craig Bellamy was publicly shot down by some quarters for calling fans a few choice swear words but what was done by the club? Nothing. We see week in week out players rolling over, tripping over blades of grass not cut short enough, trying to cheat to gain an advantage being dishonest and using foul language directed towards referees and officials and using intimidation tactics to hijack the refereeing decisions.



I totally agree with you.

Some fans are mindless morons.

Players cheating week in week out is accepted as the norm.....its becoming as farcical as wrestling.

Let's not forget the likes of Wenger, Mourinho and in the past Ferguson acting up like spoilt kids. Professionals my arse.

If it wasn't for the City I'd ditch football altogether.

I’m sure there are examples of the above nature that have occurred in Rugby previously so please don’t dig up links to try to hide behind the fact that this is a big problem in Football as more or less every football game players will cheat by feigning injury or surround the ref back chatting and acting like spoilt children.

What do the clubs do about this? You guessed it nothing. Again I’m sure there are examples of fines being issued etc for more serious offences but the lack of respect given to officials generally goes unpunished.

After Louis Picamoles was yellow carded against Wales last weekend he sarcastically applauded the ref, gave a thumbs up sign and displayed that spoilt brattish behaviour we see in each football game. What did his team do? You guessed it, they have dropped him and given a public statement saying "Certain attitudes have no place whatsoever in our sport."
You can be sure that Picamoles will think twice in future about how he conducts himself on the field in future and this is an example of how the clubs/teams in Rugby respond to what should be at the very heart of both Rugby and Football. Respect!
Should the football clubs do more to ensure that respect is at the forefront of the teams values?

two different sports, two different tempos. The ref can't get near the players in football to keep control. This is the best answer I can give right now, im havin a dump

Football can learn absolutely nothing from Rugby.

Rugby is a shit game made for rich stuck up cunts.

Football is for everybody.

Really? Rugby is a working class game unless of course your refering to the public schoolboy thing in England. In Wales and the rest of the World it's definately working class.

Football is for everybody? Maybe, but the fat kid always gets shoved in goals whilst Rugby has positions for short, tall, fast, slow, fat, skinny etc so that argument is nonsense.

Football can learn nothing from Rugby? I think the thread has clearly highlighted 1 area where football can improve especially seeing as some fans are moaning about the lack of respect they recieve from police etc.

You have included no facts, no thoughtful insight and just posted a load of tosh!

Why would I include facts in an opinion.

Rugby is shit and I hope football never ever turns out like it.

There's more atmosphere in a fart then there is at the rugby.

Well in my opinion without any facts to back it up you are one of the minority of brain dead morons who give football a bad name hence the fact that football supporters get very little respect from the police and alot of the general public.

BEER AT SEATS. END OF THREAD.

f**k me there's not plastics following us it's all these f*cking rugby fans who've ditched the blues.

Football can learn absolutely nothing from Rugby.

Rugby is a shit game made for rich stuck up cunts.

Football is for everybody.

Incredible. Plenty of Rich stuck up cunts up in the valleys where rugby is played every week by hundreds of small clubs. of course.

Football can learn plenty from rugby, the main thing is respect. There is hardly any respect for officials etc in football. Football isn't for everybody, a lot of rugby boys I know don't enjoy football at all due to all the diving, cheating, high wages, foreign owners etc.

I like both as it happens and enjoy rugby a lot. I follow Pontypool and of course coming from a council estate in Cwmbran I'm obviously a rick stuck up c**t aren't I.

Last edited by mr_nellio on Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Football can learn absolutely nothing from Rugby.

Rugby is a shit game made for rich stuck up cunts.

Football is for everybody.

Absolutely idiotic statement.

ST for the blues must be less than half of the price of one for Cardiff and you are calling them rich stuck up cunts.

Jesus, football is not a working class game anymore. You have to earn a fair whack to follow your team home and away.

Rugby is still very much working class but football is pricing the working class out of the game.It's getting far to expensive to watch football.I know a lot who don't go because of the price.

f*cking egg chasers

Rugby is still very much working class but football is pricing the working class out of the game.It's getting far to expensive to watch football.I know a lot who don't go because of the price.

Rugby in south wales may be working class but in the rest of the world it's for posh cunts and public school boy s and that's a fact also north wales football is king

Football can learn absolutely nothing from Rugby.

Rugby is a shit game made for rich stuck up cunts.

Football is for everybody.

Absolutely idiotic statement.

ST for the blues must be less than half of the price of one for Cardiff and you are calling them rich stuck up cunts.

Jesus, football is not a working class game anymore. You have to earn a fair whack to follow your team home and away.

I was comparing the whole sport you absolute idiotic egg chaser.

Football is a working class game. Just because the premier league is expensive doesn't change anything.

Which of the two are played the most around the world.

Football can learn absolutely nothing from Rugby.

Rugby is a shit game made for rich stuck up cunts.

Football is for everybody.

Absolutely idiotic statement.

ST for the blues must be less than half of the price of one for Cardiff and you are calling them rich stuck up cunts.

Jesus, football is not a working class game anymore. You have to earn a fair whack to follow your team home and away.

I was comparing the whole sport you absolute idiotic egg chaser.

Football is a working class game. Just because the premier league is expensive doesn't change anything.

Which of the two are played the most around the world.

I am not an egg chaser you plastic c**t. Thick as shit you are, football is not working class, no more than rugby is. Anyway, why does it matter? You think the 22 players playing down a park on a Saturday are any more working class than the 30 players playing rugby on a Saturday, that is absolute nonsense.

Football the working classes are being priced out of the game.

Now get back under your rock you thick tw*t.

Football can learn absolutely nothing from Rugby.

Rugby is a shit game made for rich stuck up cunts.

Football is for everybody.

Really? Rugby is a working class game unless of course your refering to the public schoolboy thing in England. In Wales and the rest of the World it's definately working class.
Football is for everybody? Maybe, but the fat kid always gets shoved in goals whilst Rugby has positions for short, tall, fast, slow, fat, skinny etc so that argument is nonsense.

Football can learn nothing from Rugby? I think the thread has clearly highlighted 1 area where football can improve especially seeing as some fans are moaning about the lack of respect they recieve from police etc.

You have included no facts, no thoughtful insight and just posted a load of tosh!

Sorry you are wrong as Wales is the ONLY country were Rugby Union is a working class sport FACT

BEER AT SEATS. END OF THREAD.

That is true Browny but I don't see why class is anything to do with this discussion.

Football can learn absolutely nothing from Rugby.

Rugby is a shit game made for rich stuck up cunts.

Football is for everybody.

Absolutely idiotic statement.

ST for the blues must be less than half of the price of one for Cardiff and you are calling them rich stuck up cunts.

Jesus, football is not a working class game anymore. You have to earn a fair whack to follow your team home and away.

I was comparing the whole sport you absolute idiotic egg chaser.

Football is a working class game. Just because the premier league is expensive doesn't change anything.

Which of the two are played the most around the world.

I am not an egg chaser you plastic c**t. Thick as shit you are, football is not working class, no more than rugby is. Anyway, why does it matter? You think the 22 players playing down a park on a Saturday are any more working class than the 30 players playing rugby on a Saturday, that is absolute nonsense.

Football the working classes are being priced out of the game.

Now get back under your rock you thick tw*t.

No your the thick one.

If rugby is so working class why isn't it played in every part of the world like football is.

That is true Browny but I don't see why class is anything to do with this discussion.

Me neither old man but for the OP to state such a lie clearly make his other comments are just as worthless

That is true Browny but I don't see why class is anything to do with this discussion.

Me neither old man but for the OP to state such a lie clearly make his other comments are just as worthless

It just shows how up there own ass eggers are.

We must learn from them

A few things Rugby should learn from Football:-

Try to keep the ball on the pitch rather than constantly kicking it into touch.
Have names for the different positions - How can "Number Eight" be a position?
Play for 90 minutes. Aren't they fit enough to last more than 80 minutes?
Have the ball in play for more than on average 15 minutes per game.
Don't allow 25 substitutes to come on and off the pitch at any time.
Treat Internationals with the disdain they deserve - everyone knows it's club loyalty over country every time.
Play with a round ball, not an egg.
Have a variety of amusing/insulting songs to sing during the game rather than just chanting the name of the country you are apparently supporting.
A 20 stone lardarse is not a sportsman - how many props play for the full game anyway?

It's not played in every part of the world because it's shit and a lot of people are put off by the physical aspect of the game, it's probably the most brutal sport to play. Nothing to do with class