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My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:44 pm

I try not to let rebrand issues wind me up so much anymore as life is too short but yesterday I was called yellow and not a real fan for boycotting. That pissed me off and I have defend myself.

As soon as Tan changed the colours and the badge, the Cardiff City I have known and loved for years died, I felt nothing when watching us walk the championship and nothing seeing people celebrating waving red scarfs with dragons on them. Now people seem to think this was an easy decision, granted I've not felt the same since leaving Ninian Park but have followed Cardiff home and away for 20 years and I miss the football badly!

I agree some of my views and the way I've put them over have been confrontational and I apologise for that but it's a very emotive issue and one I am passionate about. I've not seen a Cardiff game since West Ham away in the playoffs and will stick by my principles til the end. Have I been tempted to go down this season? f**k yeah but I made my bed and will lie in it.

I don't want to argue with any Cardiff fan, I can't understand those who have abused BU in the past or those who've lapped up the red but everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose.

Anyway, this isn't an attention seeking post and I don't care if no one replies, I just wanted to defend myself because I'm Cardiff City through and through and when we're back blue and Tan shows the fans some respect I'll be back whatever league we're in.

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:49 pm

ELY BOY wrote:I try not to let rebrand issues wind me up so much anymore as life is too short but yesterday I was called yellow and not a real fan for boycotting. That pissed me off and I have defend myself.

As soon as Tan changed the colours and the badge, the Cardiff City I have known and loved for years died, I felt nothing when watching us walk the championship and nothing seeing people celebrating waving red scarfs with dragons on them. Now people seem to think this was an easy decision, granted I've not felt the same since leaving Ninian Park but have followed Cardiff home and away for 20 years and I miss the football badly!

I agree some of my views and the way I've put them over have been confrontational and I apologise for that but it's a very emotive issue and one I am passionate about. I've not seen a Cardiff game since West Ham away in the playoffs and will stick by my principles til the end. Have I been tempted to go down this season? f**k yeah but I made my bed and will lie in it.

I don't want to argue with any Cardiff fan, I can't understand those who have abused BU in the past or those who've lapped up the red but everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose.

Anyway, this isn't an attention seeking post and I don't care if no one replies, I just wanted to defend myself because I'm Cardiff City through and through and when we're back blue and Tan shows the fans some respect I'll be back whatever league we're in.

to many arseholes on here that cannot except a different opinion.....you done what you thought right and thats your choice and yours alone...i think you have shown real commitment to how you feel,lets hope we go back to blue.. :ayatollah:

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:57 pm

Simon its a catch 22 situation.

if you don't go you are consider NOT a fan. If you go you are a sellout. You can't win with some people so its not worth getting wound up about.

I consider myself on the fence regarding about attending or not. I would call it a day if the fans decided it was red. However the fanbase is well off that red demarkation line. Therefore I'm comfortable still going.

Like yourself I just cant understand why anyone would support or wear the rebrand. I also cant understand why people criticise BU. As you say that is their choice. What I cant stand are those who preached to the anti rebrand that they should not attend games becuase its putting money into the devils pocket, that is Tan himself. THEN next thing the same people are telling Tan to go because of the sacking of MM yet have renewed for next season. HYPOCRITES.

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:20 pm

ELY BOY wrote:I try not to let rebrand issues wind me up so much anymore as life is too short but yesterday I was called yellow and not a real fan for boycotting. That pissed me off and I have defend myself.

As soon as Tan changed the colours and the badge, the Cardiff City I have known and loved for years died, I felt nothing when watching us walk the championship and nothing seeing people celebrating waving red scarfs with dragons on them. Now people seem to think this was an easy decision, granted I've not felt the same since leaving Ninian Park but have followed Cardiff home and away for 20 years and I miss the football badly!

I agree some of my views and the way I've put them over have been confrontational and I apologise for that but it's a very emotive issue and one I am passionate about. I've not seen a Cardiff game since West Ham away in the playoffs and will stick by my principles til the end. Have I been tempted to go down this season? f**k yeah but I made my bed and will lie in it.

I don't want to argue with any Cardiff fan, I can't understand those who have abused BU in the past or those who've lapped up the red but everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose.

Anyway, this isn't an attention seeking post and I don't care if no one replies, I just wanted to defend myself because I'm Cardiff City through and through and when we're back blue and Tan shows the fans some respect I'll be back whatever league we're in.

FairPlay to you for having the balls to give up on something that you clearly love. I despise the red but have not given up yet. Saturday hurt like hell and I walked out with 20 to go. The way I feel at the moment I don't want to go again.

I've followed ccfc for 34 years most of which have been as an exile. I've dragged my boys up to be ccfc and until recently was proud that I did. Tan has slowly sapped my love for city. Hopefully he'll leave soon and we get our club back. If he stays I'm not there next season.

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:38 pm

ELY BOY wrote:I try not to let rebrand issues wind me up so much anymore as life is too short but yesterday I was called yellow and not a real fan for boycotting. That pissed me off and I have defend myself.

As soon as Tan changed the colours and the badge, the Cardiff City I have known and loved for years died, I felt nothing when watching us walk the championship and nothing seeing people celebrating waving red scarfs with dragons on them. Now people seem to think this was an easy decision, granted I've not felt the same since leaving Ninian Park but have followed Cardiff home and away for 20 years and I miss the football badly!

I agree some of my views and the way I've put them over have been confrontational and I apologise for that but it's a very emotive issue and one I am passionate about. I've not seen a Cardiff game since West Ham away in the playoffs and will stick by my principles til the end. Have I been tempted to go down this season? f**k yeah but I made my bed and will lie in it.

I don't want to argue with any Cardiff fan, I can't understand those who have abused BU in the past or those who've lapped up the red but everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose.

Anyway, this isn't an attention seeking post and I don't care if no one replies, I just wanted to defend myself because I'm Cardiff City through and through and when we're back blue and Tan shows the fans some respect I'll be back whatever league we're in.




Simon, unfortunately there are far too many on here at the moment who simply don't understand the wider picture and are simply out to get people to 'bite' on every occasion :(

I may or may not agree with your decision to 'walk away' from the club you supported so well for so many years, but I have certainly stated previously that you are one of the few on this Forum that had the balls to carryout your threat if/when we turned to the Red and I will always give you credit for that :ayatollah:

I have spoken to people who know you, and who tell me how bloody hard it was for you to do so :(

Don't bite, fella. Just ask youself how important these people are in your life and then smile and say "Feck 'em!" :thumbup:

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:43 pm

Didn't you make this exact thread before?

You're obviously a little insecure with your decision otherwise you wouldn't keep trying to justify it.

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:46 pm

As an outsider looking in, where have BU gone?. A few months ago they were everywhere, shouting from the roof tops about the rebrand, haven't heard anything for ages.

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:50 pm

Cheers everyone for the positive comments. No Karl I've not one regret about my decision, just don't appreciate being called a fan who leaves the club at the first sign of trouble when I've stuck through thick and thin for 20 years.

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:51 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
ELY BOY wrote:I try not to let rebrand issues wind me up so much anymore as life is too short but yesterday I was called yellow and not a real fan for boycotting. That pissed me off and I have defend myself.

As soon as Tan changed the colours and the badge, the Cardiff City I have known and loved for years died, I felt nothing when watching us walk the championship and nothing seeing people celebrating waving red scarfs with dragons on them. Now people seem to think this was an easy decision, granted I've not felt the same since leaving Ninian Park but have followed Cardiff home and away for 20 years and I miss the football badly!

I agree some of my views and the way I've put them over have been confrontational and I apologise for that but it's a very emotive issue and one I am passionate about. I've not seen a Cardiff game since West Ham away in the playoffs and will stick by my principles til the end. Have I been tempted to go down this season? f**k yeah but I made my bed and will lie in it.

I don't want to argue with any Cardiff fan, I can't understand those who have abused BU in the past or those who've lapped up the red but everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose.

Anyway, this isn't an attention seeking post and I don't care if no one replies, I just wanted to defend myself because I'm Cardiff City through and through and when we're back blue and Tan shows the fans some respect I'll be back whatever league we're in.




Simon, unfortunately there are far too many on here at the moment who simply don't understand the wider picture and are simply out to get people to 'bite' on every occasion :(

I may or may not agree with your decision to 'walk away' from the club you supported so well for so many years, but I have certainly stated previously that you are one of the few on this Forum that had the balls to carryout your threat if/when we turned to the Red and I will always give you credit for that :ayatollah:

I have spoken to people who know you, and who tell me how bloody hard it was for you to do so :(

Don't bite, fella. Just ask youself how important these people are in your life and then smile and say "Feck 'em!" :thumbup:

Cheers mate

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:52 pm

At first it smacked of cutting your nose off to spite your face - but having thought about it it's not like that at all. Totally respect your decision and your stance but I can't do that.

City is in my blood (like you) but to think about missing a game on a Saturday regardless who's in charge, what colour we are in and what league we are in sends shivers through me (not over reacting either - that really did just happen as I was writing!)

I hope you and like minded people like yourself come back soon. :ayatollah:

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:52 pm

krabb wrote:
ELY BOY wrote:I try not to let rebrand issues wind me up so much anymore as life is too short but yesterday I was called yellow and not a real fan for boycotting. That pissed me off and I have defend myself.

As soon as Tan changed the colours and the badge, the Cardiff City I have known and loved for years died, I felt nothing when watching us walk the championship and nothing seeing people celebrating waving red scarfs with dragons on them. Now people seem to think this was an easy decision, granted I've not felt the same since leaving Ninian Park but have followed Cardiff home and away for 20 years and I miss the football badly!

I agree some of my views and the way I've put them over have been confrontational and I apologise for that but it's a very emotive issue and one I am passionate about. I've not seen a Cardiff game since West Ham away in the playoffs and will stick by my principles til the end. Have I been tempted to go down this season? f**k yeah but I made my bed and will lie in it.

I don't want to argue with any Cardiff fan, I can't understand those who have abused BU in the past or those who've lapped up the red but everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose.

Anyway, this isn't an attention seeking post and I don't care if no one replies, I just wanted to defend myself because I'm Cardiff City through and through and when we're back blue and Tan shows the fans some respect I'll be back whatever league we're in.

to many arseholes on here that cannot except a different opinion.....you done what you thought right and thats your choice and yours alone...i think you have shown real commitment to how you feel,lets hope we go back to blue.. :ayatollah:

Thanks Krabb, did the only things my principles would allow me to do

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:53 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Simon its a catch 22 situation.

if you don't go you are consider NOT a fan. If you go you are a sellout. You can't win with some people so its not worth getting wound up about.

I consider myself on the fence regarding about attending or not. I would call it a day if the fans decided it was red. However the fanbase is well off that red demarkation line. Therefore I'm comfortable still going.

Like yourself I just cant understand why anyone would support or wear the rebrand. I also cant understand why people criticise BU. As you say that is their choice. What I cant stand are those who preached to the anti rebrand that they should not attend games becuase its putting money into the devils pocket, that is Tan himself. THEN next thing the same people are telling Tan to go because of the sacking of MM yet have renewed for next season. HYPOCRITES.

It's a complicated mess for sure Ian mate

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:53 pm

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
ELY BOY wrote:I try not to let rebrand issues wind me up so much anymore as life is too short but yesterday I was called yellow and not a real fan for boycotting. That pissed me off and I have defend myself.

As soon as Tan changed the colours and the badge, the Cardiff City I have known and loved for years died, I felt nothing when watching us walk the championship and nothing seeing people celebrating waving red scarfs with dragons on them. Now people seem to think this was an easy decision, granted I've not felt the same since leaving Ninian Park but have followed Cardiff home and away for 20 years and I miss the football badly!

I agree some of my views and the way I've put them over have been confrontational and I apologise for that but it's a very emotive issue and one I am passionate about. I've not seen a Cardiff game since West Ham away in the playoffs and will stick by my principles til the end. Have I been tempted to go down this season? f**k yeah but I made my bed and will lie in it.

I don't want to argue with any Cardiff fan, I can't understand those who have abused BU in the past or those who've lapped up the red but everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose.

Anyway, this isn't an attention seeking post and I don't care if no one replies, I just wanted to defend myself because I'm Cardiff City through and through and when we're back blue and Tan shows the fans some respect I'll be back whatever league we're in.

FairPlay to you for having the balls to give up on something that you clearly love. I despise the red but have not given up yet. Saturday hurt like hell and I walked out with 20 to go. The way I feel at the moment I don't want to go again.

I've followed ccfc for 34 years most of which have been as an exile. I've dragged my boys up to be ccfc and until recently was proud that I did. Tan has slowly sapped my love for city. Hopefully he'll leave soon and we get our club back. If he stays I'm not there next season.


Cheers Gar, it's sad that you feel like that.

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:55 pm

BobBankLoyalist wrote:At first it smacked of cutting your nose off to spite your face - but having thought about it it's not like that at all. Totally respect your decision and your stance but I can't do that.

City is in my blood (like you) but to think about missing a game on a Saturday regardless who's in charge, what colour we are in and what league we are in sends shivers through me (not over reacting either - that really did just happen as I was writing!)

I hope you and like minded people like yourself come back soon. :ayatollah:


Ha ha fair play mate and I can see your opinion too. I wish I could feel that daily I really do

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:56 pm

Willy-Wonka wrote:As an outsider looking in, where have BU gone?. A few months ago they were everywhere, shouting from the roof tops about the rebrand, haven't heard anything for ages.

Unsure mate, to be honest I can't blame Sian if she gave up after the amount of unwarranted abuse.

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:08 pm

ELY BOY wrote:
krabb wrote:
ELY BOY wrote:I try not to let rebrand issues wind me up so much anymore as life is too short but yesterday I was called yellow and not a real fan for boycotting. That pissed me off and I have defend myself.

As soon as Tan changed the colours and the badge, the Cardiff City I have known and loved for years died, I felt nothing when watching us walk the championship and nothing seeing people celebrating waving red scarfs with dragons on them. Now people seem to think this was an easy decision, granted I've not felt the same since leaving Ninian Park but have followed Cardiff home and away for 20 years and I miss the football badly!

I agree some of my views and the way I've put them over have been confrontational and I apologise for that but it's a very emotive issue and one I am passionate about. I've not seen a Cardiff game since West Ham away in the playoffs and will stick by my principles til the end. Have I been tempted to go down this season? f**k yeah but I made my bed and will lie in it.

I don't want to argue with any Cardiff fan, I can't understand those who have abused BU in the past or those who've lapped up the red but everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose.

Anyway, this isn't an attention seeking post and I don't care if no one replies, I just wanted to defend myself because I'm Cardiff City through and through and when we're back blue and Tan shows the fans some respect I'll be back whatever league we're in.

to many arseholes on here that cannot except a different opinion.....you done what you thought right and thats your choice and yours alone...i think you have shown real commitment to how you feel,lets hope we go back to blue.. :ayatollah:

Thanks Krabb, did the only things my principles would allow me to do

then you done right :ayatollah:

Re: My two pennies

Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:14 pm

I have always seen the passion in your posts and fully understand why you would want to stay away. Hopefully if we get rid of Tan and get our colours back then many of our loyal supporters will return. :ayatollah:

Re: My two pennies

Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:02 am

Can fully understand your views. Some of the boys I know who seen the dark days done the same as you I know it was hard for them. Could understand their views but couldn't bring myself to sacrifice something I loved like they did and carried on going. Will renew for next year optimistic that the return of our identity will happen soon but will always have respect for supporters like you and the many others who choose their stand.

Re: My two pennies

Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:17 am

ELY BOY wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
ELY BOY wrote:I try not to let rebrand issues wind me up so much anymore as life is too short but yesterday I was called yellow and not a real fan for boycotting. That pissed me off and I have defend myself.

As soon as Tan changed the colours and the badge, the Cardiff City I have known and loved for years died, I felt nothing when watching us walk the championship and nothing seeing people celebrating waving red scarfs with dragons on them. Now people seem to think this was an easy decision, granted I've not felt the same since leaving Ninian Park but have followed Cardiff home and away for 20 years and I miss the football badly!

I agree some of my views and the way I've put them over have been confrontational and I apologise for that but it's a very emotive issue and one I am passionate about. I've not seen a Cardiff game since West Ham away in the playoffs and will stick by my principles til the end. Have I been tempted to go down this season? f**k yeah but I made my bed and will lie in it.

I don't want to argue with any Cardiff fan, I can't understand those who have abused BU in the past or those who've lapped up the red but everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose.

Anyway, this isn't an attention seeking post and I don't care if no one replies, I just wanted to defend myself because I'm Cardiff City through and through and when we're back blue and Tan shows the fans some respect I'll be back whatever league we're in.




Simon, unfortunately there are far too many on here at the moment who simply don't understand the wider picture and are simply out to get people to 'bite' on every occasion :(

I may or may not agree with your decision to 'walk away' from the club you supported so well for so many years, but I have certainly stated previously that you are one of the few on this Forum that had the balls to carryout your threat if/when we turned to the Red and I will always give you credit for that :ayatollah:

I have spoken to people who know you, and who tell me how bloody hard it was for you to do so :(

Don't bite, fella. Just ask youself how important these people are in your life and then smile and say "Feck 'em!" :thumbup:

Cheers mate




You're welcome, Simon :thumbup:

Both parents Ely people (now sadly deceased) and I lived on Pethybridge Road with my Grandmother for a while as a youngster (Herbert Thompson School for a year or two, but way before you by the look) ;) :ayatollah: :thumbup:

Re: My two pennies

Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:45 am

100% correct to make the stance you have. You decided that common decency & values are more important to you than attending your favourite clubs' matches.

The club at present doesn't care about its 'customers', so its not shocking to me that the most loyal fans are the ones most hurt.

Re: My two pennies

Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:47 am

ELY BOY wrote:
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
ELY BOY wrote:I try not to let rebrand issues wind me up so much anymore as life is too short but yesterday I was called yellow and not a real fan for boycotting. That pissed me off and I have defend myself.

As soon as Tan changed the colours and the badge, the Cardiff City I have known and loved for years died, I felt nothing when watching us walk the championship and nothing seeing people celebrating waving red scarfs with dragons on them. Now people seem to think this was an easy decision, granted I've not felt the same since leaving Ninian Park but have followed Cardiff home and away for 20 years and I miss the football badly!

I agree some of my views and the way I've put them over have been confrontational and I apologise for that but it's a very emotive issue and one I am passionate about. I've not seen a Cardiff game since West Ham away in the playoffs and will stick by my principles til the end. Have I been tempted to go down this season? f**k yeah but I made my bed and will lie in it.

I don't want to argue with any Cardiff fan, I can't understand those who have abused BU in the past or those who've lapped up the red but everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose.

Anyway, this isn't an attention seeking post and I don't care if no one replies, I just wanted to defend myself because I'm Cardiff City through and through and when we're back blue and Tan shows the fans some respect I'll be back whatever league we're in.

FairPlay to you for having the balls to give up on something that you clearly love. I despise the red but have not given up yet. Saturday hurt like hell and I walked out with 20 to go. The way I feel at the moment I don't want to go again.

I've followed ccfc for 34 years most of which have been as an exile. I've dragged my boys up to be ccfc and until recently was proud that I did. Tan has slowly sapped my love for city. Hopefully he'll leave soon and we get our club back. If he stays I'm not there next season.


Cheers Gar, it's sad that you feel like that.

My 17 year old feels the same. Since he was tiny he has been surrounded by man utd and Chelsea plastics giving him shit for being ccfc. Days out like the fa cup final and carling cup final have given him the opportunity to fling 2 fingers up at his plastic mates as they've never even seen their team play in the flesh and he has travelled the country from Sheffield to Southampton to watch his beloved team play. Sadly vinny tan has ruined this season for him.

Re: My two pennies

Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:11 am

ELY BOY wrote:I try not to let rebrand issues wind me up so much anymore as life is too short but yesterday I was called yellow and not a real fan for boycotting. That pissed me off and I have defend myself.

As soon as Tan changed the colours and the badge, the Cardiff City I have known and loved for years died, I felt nothing when watching us walk the championship and nothing seeing people celebrating waving red scarfs with dragons on them. Now people seem to think this was an easy decision, granted I've not felt the same since leaving Ninian Park but have followed Cardiff home and away for 20 years and I miss the football badly!

I agree some of my views and the way I've put them over have been confrontational and I apologise for that but it's a very emotive issue and one I am passionate about. I've not seen a Cardiff game since West Ham away in the playoffs and will stick by my principles til the end. Have I been tempted to go down this season? f**k yeah but I made my bed and will lie in it.

I don't want to argue with any Cardiff fan, I can't understand those who have abused BU in the past or those who've lapped up the red but everyone is entitled to their opinions I suppose.

Anyway, this isn't an attention seeking post and I don't care if no one replies, I just wanted to defend myself because I'm Cardiff City through and through and when we're back blue and Tan shows the fans some respect I'll be back whatever league we're in.



Simon, Ive known you for a long time and I know how much its hurting you,I respect what uve done :thumbup: .

I despise the Red,the Badge and the whole Rebrand shite, but I would of loved every fan to have stood outside the stadium and showed a united front, they never were going to, I could not just let our identity die, so I demonstrated the way I felt was the best way and I'm glad I and others did as we stopped the stadium becoming a total rebrand and I honestly think off the pitch its shown that weve achieved that. We were originally I'm sad to say outnumbered by the Red about 4-1, now I would say its 90% BLUE :thumbup:

We will all be back together in the future, fans like you and I BLUE and together :thumbup: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: My two pennies

Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:47 am

Completely respect you for your stance... Everyone has a right to decide for themselves how it affects them personally... :ayatollah: