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why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:39 am

Hes a top finisher and its adamant against hull we are now dominating creativity against such teams at home.
hes bound to get on the end of a few. Hes the only player capable of scoring anywhere near 7 in 11

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:43 am

Not a good move his wallet would slow him down :lol:

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:27 am

7 in 11.....when has he ever achieved anything like that return?
even at the peak of his career 1 in 3 was about the best he managed, and that at teams at the top.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:37 am

Bellamy and great finisher dont belong in the same sentence.

In 13 Premier League seasons he has only scored more than 10 in a season ONCE... And that was 13.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:01 pm

sloper_road_legend wrote:Hes a top finisher and its adamant against hull we are now dominating creativity against such teams at home.
hes bound to get on the end of a few. Hes the only player capable of scoring anywhere near 7 in 11


I don't think that's the answer. I don't think he's played up front especially on his own for many years.
I think he'll start behind Campbell on Sunday though.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:14 pm

from the games I've seen him play in he is what I would call an instinctive goal scorer rather than a clinical one - he misses a lot of one-on-ones, the QPR 2-2 draw in his first spell springs to mind.

also the way he plays at the minute he ends up in midfield taking the ball off CM when he is supposed to be playing upfront.

for me the answer is simple but very hard to achieve - confidence.

Anyhow, renewed today - ever hopeful, always the City

CTID

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:17 pm

I always seem to feel more confident when Bellamy is in the side, but he's not a striker. He's much better off in his usual role on the wing.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:04 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:Bellamy and great finisher dont belong in the same sentence.

In 13 Premier League seasons he has only scored more than 10 in a season ONCE... And that was 13.


That was for Man City and played the season on the left wing, don't you think he would score more if he played up front or just behind Cambell?

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:11 pm

put him in the hole again

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:20 pm

Cos he's scored one goal all season and not clinical enough?

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:54 pm

Igovernor wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Bellamy and great finisher dont belong in the same sentence.

In 13 Premier League seasons he has only scored more than 10 in a season ONCE... And that was 13.


That was for Man City and played the season on the left wing, don't you think he would score more if he played up front or just behind Cambell?


No it wasnt it was for Blackburn where he played as a striker.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:16 am

JonCCFC wrote:I always seem to feel more confident when Bellamy is in the side, but he's not a striker. He's much better off in his usual role on the wing.

I agree, Bellamy and Noone cause chaos on the wings...

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:53 am

Because he's unreliable. Either his knee, or more likely his head, will be gone. Where the hell has he been all season? Bit player, at best. And a plastic scouser to boot. :wave: Bellamy

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:56 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Bellamy and great finisher dont belong in the same sentence.

In 13 Premier League seasons he has only scored more than 10 in a season ONCE... And that was 13.


That was for Man City and played the season on the left wing, don't you think he would score more if he played up front or just behind Cambell?


No it wasnt it was for Blackburn where he played as a striker.



PEDANTIC is the word I am looking for, one goal out, he scored 12 for Man city playing on the wing, so by my reckoning he has scored double figures or just under in the premier quite a few times, so his best rate for goals was playing up front :wave:

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:18 am

:lol: what?!

He has scored over 10 ONCE. He has scored exactly 10 once too, all the rest didnt even make it to 10.

What is your point?

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:28 am

2000–01 Coventry City - 6 goals
2001–02 Newcastle United - 9 goals
2002–03 Newcastle United - 7 goals
2003–04 Newcastle United - 5 goals
2004–05 Newcastle United - 7 goals
2005–06 Blackburn Rovers - 13 goals
2006–07 Liverpool - 7 goals
2007–08 West Ham United - 2 goals
2008–09 West Ham United - 5 goals
Manchester City - 2 goals
2009–10 Manchester City - 10 goals
2011–12 Liverpool - 6 goals
2013–14 Cardiff City - 0 goals

Average premier league goal tally per season - 6 goals a season.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:43 am

You seem to know a lot about Cardiff City and our players former clubs, obsessed would be a word that describes you do you not have a life of your own instead of trying to share in Cardiff fans lives? :wave:

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:46 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:2000–01 Coventry City - 6 goals
2001–02 Newcastle United - 9 goals
2002–03 Newcastle United - 7 goals
2003–04 Newcastle United - 5 goals
2004–05 Newcastle United - 7 goals
2005–06 Blackburn Rovers - 13 goals
2006–07 Liverpool - 7 goals
2007–08 West Ham United - 2 goals
2008–09 West Ham United - 5 goals
Manchester City - 2 goals
2009–10 Manchester City - 10 goals
2011–12 Liverpool - 6 goals
2013–14 Cardiff City - 0 goals

Average premier league goal tally per season - 6 goals a season.


2013-14 is wrong, he scored against Norwich didn't he?!

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:48 am

sloper_road_legend wrote:Hes a top finisher and its adamant against hull we are now dominating creativity against such teams at home.
hes bound to get on the end of a few. Hes the only player capable of scoring anywhere near 7 in 11


Err... no he's not? Lol good player yeah but not an out and out striker, can you see him getting on the end of crosses? His goal record recently is not so good either.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:33 am

Igovernor wrote:You seem to know a lot about Cardiff City and our players former clubs, obsessed would be a word that describes you do you not have a life of your own instead of trying to share in Cardiff fans lives? :wave:


Penny dropped then has it :D

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:25 pm

In 360 Premier League games Bellamy has scored 101 goals not too bad a record for someone who isn't a clinical finisher.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:38 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:2000–01 Coventry City - 6 goals
2001–02 Newcastle United - 9 goals
2002–03 Newcastle United - 7 goals
2003–04 Newcastle United - 5 goals
2004–05 Newcastle United - 7 goals
2005–06 Blackburn Rovers - 13 goals
2006–07 Liverpool - 7 goals
2007–08 West Ham United - 2 goals
2008–09 West Ham United - 5 goals
Manchester City - 2 goals
2009–10 Manchester City - 10 goals
2011–12 Liverpool - 6 goals
2013–14 Cardiff City - 0 goals

Average premier league goal tally per season - 6 goals a season.


Honest question , which may worsen his stats , did he not play in 2010-11 and not in 2012-13 ?

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:52 pm

Sorry, I have just realised my mistake!
Bellamy has played 280 Premier League games and scored 84 goals, which is not a bad return for someone who is not a clinical finisher. Injuries have certainly taken their toll.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:08 pm

Oh no it's Bodin wrote:Sorry, I have just realised my mistake!
Bellamy has played 280 Premier League games and scored 84 goals, which is not a bad return for someone who is not a clinical finisher. Injuries have certainly taken their toll.


Again Martyn, he has an average Premier League return of 6 goals per season spanning 13 seasons. :thumbup:

It is ridiculous to suggest Bellamy is a clinical finisher when he is renowned for not being so as the stats also suggest.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:09 pm

HANDBALL ! wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:2000–01 Coventry City - 6 goals
2001–02 Newcastle United - 9 goals
2002–03 Newcastle United - 7 goals
2003–04 Newcastle United - 5 goals
2004–05 Newcastle United - 7 goals
2005–06 Blackburn Rovers - 13 goals
2006–07 Liverpool - 7 goals
2007–08 West Ham United - 2 goals
2008–09 West Ham United - 5 goals
Manchester City - 2 goals
2009–10 Manchester City - 10 goals
2011–12 Liverpool - 6 goals
2013–14 Cardiff City - 0 goals

Average premier league goal tally per season - 6 goals a season.


Honest question , which may worsen his stats , did he not play in 2010-11 and not in 2012-13 ?


Championship

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:12 pm

He has scored this season, against Norwich, so I question the validity of those stats.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:16 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:He has scored this season, against Norwich, so I question the validity of those stats.


Which one do you question in particular?

If i add that goal on, and presumably an extra performance it is still 6 goals per season.
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Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:16 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:He has scored this season, against Norwich, so I question the validity of those stats.


Which one do you question in particular?


The fact that he has scored in the premiership this season, yet it says 0.

If wherever you got them from cannot get this season's right, I'd be concerned the others are not accurate either.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:18 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:He has scored this season, against Norwich, so I question the validity of those stats.


Which one do you question in particular?


The fact that he has scored in the premiership this season, yet it says 0.

If wherever you got them from cannot get this season's right, I'd doubt the others are accurate.


Then by all means check a stat site you trust. I assume they havent updated the norwich goal.

As ive said, if we add that on then it is still 6 per season on average.

Re: why dont we just put bellamy up front?

Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:20 pm

Just pointing out that the stats you posted were inaccurate.

I don't want to put Bellamy up front though.