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Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:22 pm

Quite proud of the following:-

1. The team put in a lot of effort today,( but the ability and final execution were not good enough).
2. Proud that all of those who stuck it to the end applauded and encouraged the team, rather than booed. By the end of the ground, the TRUE supporters were left (and many of those were red!)
3. Proud of the solidarity showed to the Hull fans and the battle they are having with their owners ( I was disappointed, however, that so few made the journey - is that all they bring away?)

POSITIVES:-
Cala - a centre half who can play football and pass.
Daehli - if we get relegated he is going to cause chaos to some Championship defences next season.
Eikrem - starting to convince me he is good enough, despite the error that led to the first goal.
We created chances - but didn't put them away.

We aren't down yet, but if we dont win our next 2 games ( yes, I mean Spurs too), then perhaps now is the time to forget about results and start preparing a team for next year, give some of the youngsters some Premier League experience.

I won't mention any negatives as it makes me sad!

:ole: :ayatollah: :lol:

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:45 pm

bluebird58 wrote:Quite proud of the following:-

1. The team put in a lot of effort today,( but the ability and final execution were not good enough).
2. Proud that all of those who stuck it to the end applauded and encouraged the team, rather than booed. By the end of the ground, the TRUE supporters were left (and many of those were red!)
3. Proud of the solidarity showed to the Hull fans and the battle they are having with their owners ( I was disappointed, however, that so few made the journey - is that all they bring away?)

POSITIVES:-
Cala - a centre half who can play football and pass.
Daehli - if we get relegated he is going to cause chaos to some Championship defences next season.
Eikrem - starting to convince me he is good enough, despite the error that led to the first goal.
We created chances - but didn't put them away.

We aren't down yet, but if we dont win our next 2 games ( yes, I mean Spurs too), then perhaps now is the time to forget about results and start preparing a team for next year, give some of the youngsters some Premier League experience.

I won't mention any negatives as it makes me sad!

:ole: :ayatollah: :lol:





Quote (Bluebird58): "2. Proud that all of those who stuck it to the end applauded and encouraged the team, rather than booed. By the end of the ground, the TRUE supporters were left (and many of those were red!)" :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:58 pm

bluebird58 wrote:Quite proud of the following:-

1. The team put in a lot of effort today,( but the ability and final execution were not good enough).
2. Proud that all of those who stuck it to the end applauded and encouraged the team, rather than booed. By the end of the ground, the TRUE supporters were left (and many of those were red!)
3. Proud of the solidarity showed to the Hull fans and the battle they are having with their owners ( I was disappointed, however, that so few made the journey - is that all they bring away?)

POSITIVES:-
Cala - a centre half who can play football and pass.
Daehli - if we get relegated he is going to cause chaos to some Championship defences next season.
Eikrem - starting to convince me he is good enough, despite the error that led to the first goal.
We created chances - but didn't put them away.

We aren't down yet, but if we dont win our next 2 games ( yes, I mean Spurs too), then perhaps now is the time to forget about results and start preparing a team for next year, give some of the youngsters some Premier League experience.

I won't mention any negatives as it makes me sad!

:ole: :ayatollah: :lol:


:thumbup: :thumbup: :ayatollah:

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:00 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
bluebird58 wrote:Quite proud of the following:-

1. The team put in a lot of effort today,( but the ability and final execution were not good enough).
2. Proud that all of those who stuck it to the end applauded and encouraged the team, rather than booed. By the end of the ground, the TRUE supporters were left (and many of those were red!)
3. Proud of the solidarity showed to the Hull fans and the battle they are having with their owners ( I was disappointed, however, that so few made the journey - is that all they bring away?)

POSITIVES:-
Cala - a centre half who can play football and pass.
Daehli - if we get relegated he is going to cause chaos to some Championship defences next season.
Eikrem - starting to convince me he is good enough, despite the error that led to the first goal.
We created chances - but didn't put them away.

We aren't down yet, but if we dont win our next 2 games ( yes, I mean Spurs too), then perhaps now is the time to forget about results and start preparing a team for next year, give some of the youngsters some Premier League experience.

I won't mention any negatives as it makes me sad!

:ole: :ayatollah: :lol:





Quote (Bluebird58): "2. Proud that all of those who stuck it to the end applauded and encouraged the team, rather than booed. By the end of the ground, the TRUE supporters were left (and many of those were red!)" :thumbup: :thumbup:


Although I was at home watching online I watched to the bitter end, was absolutely go smacked to see people leaving at 65 minutes!

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:32 pm

Liles93 wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
bluebird58 wrote:Quite proud of the following:-

1. The team put in a lot of effort today,( but the ability and final execution were not good enough).
2. Proud that all of those who stuck it to the end applauded and encouraged the team, rather than booed. By the end of the ground, the TRUE supporters were left (and many of those were red!)
3. Proud of the solidarity showed to the Hull fans and the battle they are having with their owners ( I was disappointed, however, that so few made the journey - is that all they bring away?)

POSITIVES:-
Cala - a centre half who can play football and pass.
Daehli - if we get relegated he is going to cause chaos to some Championship defences next season.
Eikrem - starting to convince me he is good enough, despite the error that led to the first goal.
We created chances - but didn't put them away.

We aren't down yet, but if we dont win our next 2 games ( yes, I mean Spurs too), then perhaps now is the time to forget about results and start preparing a team for next year, give some of the youngsters some Premier League experience.

I won't mention any negatives as it makes me sad!

:ole: :ayatollah: :lol:





Quote (Bluebird58): "2. Proud that all of those who stuck it to the end applauded and encouraged the team, rather than booed. By the end of the ground, the TRUE supporters were left (and many of those were red!)" :thumbup: :thumbup:


Although I was at home watching online I watched to the bitter end, was absolutely go smacked to see people leaving at 65 minutes!

56 minutes, streaming out!

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:48 pm

If we are doomed with games to go i hope to see the young players from under 21 team being given a chance, they will be our future stars.

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:52 pm

"The team put in a lot of effort today." Really?? Wish I was at the game you were watching. Cala made some effort, but I think that's about it. Am I mistaken?

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:54 pm

I think Eikrem is poor... Guesses his passes, just plays the percentages, and more worrying gassed again after 60 mins...

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:02 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I think Eikrem is poor... Guesses his passes, just plays the percentages, and more worrying gassed again after 60 mins...


If you pay attention to what actually happens on the pitch, the guy orientates himself before he gets the ball and know where to play. But, was involved in two of the goals today and thats not good enough..

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:11 pm

I do pay attention and noticed this isn't the Norwegian league where defenders wait to see what happens, they anticipate.

He may eventually be good enough, he is young and this is one hell of a learning curve, but at the moment I believe Gunnar would be more effective.

and he is gassed after 60mins......

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:25 pm

Positives?

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:38 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I do pay attention and noticed this isn't the Norwegian league where defenders wait to see what happens, they anticipate.

He may eventually be good enough, he is young and this is one hell of a learning curve, but at the moment I believe Gunnar would be more effective.

and he is gassed after 60mins......


Hes still an awful lot better than Whittingham. I think with Medel and Mutch back hell do well

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:09 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
bluebird58 wrote:Quite proud of the following:-

1. The team put in a lot of effort today,( but the ability and final execution were not good enough).
2. Proud that all of those who stuck it to the end applauded and encouraged the team, rather than booed. By the end of the ground, the TRUE supporters were left (and many of those were red!)
3. Proud of the solidarity showed to the Hull fans and the battle they are having with their owners ( I was disappointed, however, that so few made the journey - is that all they bring away?)

POSITIVES:-
Cala - a centre half who can play football and pass.
Daehli - if we get relegated he is going to cause chaos to some Championship defences next season.
Eikrem - starting to convince me he is good enough, despite the error that led to the first goal.
We created chances - but didn't put them away.

We aren't down yet, but if we dont win our next 2 games ( yes, I mean Spurs too), then perhaps now is the time to forget about results and start preparing a team for next year, give some of the youngsters some Premier League experience.

I won't mention any negatives as it makes me sad!

:ole: :ayatollah: :lol:





Quote (Bluebird58): "2. Proud that all of those who stuck it to the end applauded and encouraged the team, rather than booed. By the end of the ground, the TRUE supporters were left (and many of those were red!)" :thumbup: :thumbup:


im in the canton..and most of the chants after the 3rd goal were negative.
pissed off with it tbh.
todays agenda was to bum hull fans, people dont come to support the team anymore

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:39 pm

Watched it from a bar in Dublin - by the 3rd goal the Irish were buying me drinks to drown the sorrows - I saw no positives fro. Today only a reinforcement of our position of worst managed team in the premier league

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:52 am

Pride is not a word to reflect today's shambolic events! Having supported Cardiff City for the best part of 50 years, this ranks amongst the low points :oops: :cry:

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:44 am

I don't see much point in trying to find consolation with these platitudes about pride and how well the odd player did.
We are in a position where we're not good enough and that's a fact Jack. You don't get points or win trophies for making a good effort, ( not that this was ever a good effort ).
The manager and the Chairman have over estimated the abilities of the players and attempted to play an attacking high scoring game which was always naive, and now it has been proven to be hopeless. The previous manager was well aware that this league is very fast and very tight, and his tactics were framed accordingly.
Once a few games had been sacrificed to the turmoil of managerial change we needed achieve a much higher return of points per game and the only hope was to bolster the attack and attempt to score a lot of goals. Didn't work.
The current manager should certainly now be allowed to rebuild the team. I'm sure he can do that if he' isn't sacked like so many of his predecessors, except that we shall lose a lot of players when we go down.
There's got to be a fair chance that the chairman will cut and run at that point, but at least we've pushed the bar a bit higher and there's every opportunity to bounce back up in a season or two.
If you really want a bright note, maybe all this will mean we can get rid of that stupid looking kit and order some new blue shirts.

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:25 am

JimmyScoular wrote:I don't see much point in trying to find consolation with these platitudes about pride and how well the odd player did.
We are in a position where we're not good enough and that's a fact Jack. You don't get points or win trophies for making a good effort, ( not that this was ever a good effort ).
The manager and the Chairman have over estimated the abilities of the players and attempted to play an attacking high scoring game which was always naive, and now it has been proven to be hopeless. The previous manager was well aware that this league is very fast and very tight, and his tactics were framed accordingly.
Once a few games had been sacrificed to the turmoil of managerial change we needed achieve a much higher return of points per game and the only hope was to bolster the attack and attempt to score a lot of goals. Didn't work.
The current manager should certainly now be allowed to rebuild the team. I'm sure he can do that if he' isn't sacked like so many of his predecessors, except that we shall lose a lot of players when we go down.
There's got to be a fair chance that the chairman will cut and run at that point, but at least we've pushed the bar a bit higher and there's every opportunity to bounce back up in a season or two.
If you really want a bright note, maybe all this will mean we can get rid of that stupid looking kit and order some new blue shirts.


I don't think we will lose many players. After all, they have proved that they are not good enough for Premier League. However, Caulker should play at a higher level, and Medel would be wasted in the Championship. Noone may attract some attention. That's about it.

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:40 am

And bye bye marshall. We would get a lot for him though with his new contract.

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:51 am

llan bluebird wrote:I think Eikrem is poor... Guesses his passes, just plays the percentages, and more worrying gassed again after 60 mins...


I agree eikram was awful yesterday , misplacing passes , lets players run off him into space and doesn't track them , misses tackles , bullied in the air by opposing midfielders and like you said very unfit . Not good enough for this level .

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:07 am

Eikrem is average

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:23 am

Mel86 wrote:And bye bye marshall. We would get a lot for him though with his new contract.


I'd forgotten him but you are quite right. However, I'm not so worried about losing a keeper. A top class outfield player is more important than a top class keeper. No matter how good your keeper is, he can't keep clean sheets on his own. Neither can he score 20 goals a season. He can only save you 20 goals a season if he has a poor defence in front of him, like Marshall this season.

I'd swap Marshall for 2 decent fullbacks and take my chances with an average keeper.

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:43 pm

Problem with this post is its papering over the cracks. The atmosphere was as dire as the football end of.

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:32 pm

I actually agree with the OP.
At the end of the game I felt those left in the ground were supporting the team, and there was a sense of togetherness particularly with the "always be blue" chanting. Nice to see Caulker bring his shirt over to the Canton stand.
Yes the result was terrible, but we dominated the first half and allowed Hull 3 chances (ok they scored 2 of them)
In the second half we didn't dominate as much and yes our last ball around the box was terrible and the defending was shambolic.

I would also like to add to the list of positives - at 4 nil down, Craig Noone kept running at Hull and trying to create something. He looked shattered and devastated at the end, but was one that never gave up.

I think we're down, but if we can keep the core of the side will have a good chance again next year to be competitive in the Championship. I would be even better if the fans stick together with the team and each other. I've seen plenty of relegations with the City over the past 40 odd years, we kept supporting them then and will do again. Maybe some of the fans that left early have never experienced a relegation and have only been fed on a diet of (relative ) success over the past 10 years or so.

Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:14 pm

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Re: Some pride and a few positives.

Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:15 pm

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