question - if we never drew with sunderland in last min and.

Frazier cambells shot was the other side of the bar v man utd and we had managed to hold out at home to tottenham.
would we still be rubbish worse team in league etc etc..
on 27points
thats all it is luck pure luck is the difference beetween 10th and 20th. we had the chances just like your stokes your hull citys and your norwiches

The 2 points lost against Sunderland were huge. That could be the difference......spurs should have been without they're keeper after 10 minutes too!

Do you know I still have that sick feeling in my stomach every time i think about sunderland .

Should have gone into row Z !!

And if Norwich beat us home and away which they should of minus 4 points

Etc etc ifs and buts just look at the reality of what happened

If my Auntie had bollox she'd be my Uncle.

or if toures pass to Dzeko in the 1st half had been a little slower, how long would MM have lasted?

beating Man City bought him about 6 weeks i rekon,just as beating Leeds bought Cork a similar spell

How is it luck?

Couldnt you say that about every game and say you should have won the league?

We haven't had much luck this season. Take pens for example - a lot of decisions can go for or against, yet we're the only team in the Premier not to have been awarded a penalty.

How is it luck?

Couldnt you say that about every game and say you should have won the league?

No not really,in some games we didn't even have a shot on target

Frazier cambells shot was the other side of the bar v man utd and we had managed to hold out at home to tottenham.
would we still be rubbish worse team in league etc etc..
on 27points
thats all it is luck pure luck is the difference beetween 10th and 20th. we had the chances just like your stokes your hull citys and your norwiches

maybe fulham,sunderland, west brom etc have had similar luck.....

We haven't had much luck this season. Take pens for example - a lot of decisions can go for or against, yet we're the only team in the Premier not to have been awarded a penalty.

but the most clear pen was the one Everton didnt get against us...........

Thats football granted if your aunty had bollocks she would be your dad but this is how it is.

wev had a couple of kicks in the teeth another season this squad may of survived and hull shitty could been 20th
its a fine line usually no more than one or two games won or lost separating relegatiom and survival its a real fine line

Could easily say that about our wins though to balance it up.

If Vincent Kompany had been playing we probably wouldn't have been gifted those goals last summer. If Mutchs shot against Fulham had rattled the bar instead of flying in.

You make your own luck in football.

what if my veins burst listen to the above poster ^^^ for clarity on this issue