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TAN + RED = FAILURE

Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:59 pm

1 Tan has spent tens of millions, or rather loaned our club tens of millions, and we're soon to be in the same division as when he took over despite our debt now smashing £100m.

2 Prices will have increased massively for season tickets for similar standard football (although I had a price freeze - thanks Mr Ridsdale)

3 Sales are reportedly hugely down in club shop since rebrand

4 Vast majority of home fans reject the red and wear blue to games

5 Most loyal fans ie. those at away, games despise the red, sing about staying blue and want Tan out

6 Ran the club so badly he didn't know how much was being spent on transfers

7 Actually succeeds in making Ridsdale look competent who at least changed our badge back and inadvertently gave us cheap season tickets

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:11 pm

Dont forget the extra millions Tan Cost us by not paying the Langstone debt on time.

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:14 pm

I would like to work at the club shop....I could get a mannequin of myself & go down the pub for a few pints :)

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:14 pm

True, Scammam did nicely out of that.

Any more I've missed.

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:53 pm

this i think is his fourth season involved..............hate him ,love him or just tolerate him

the facts are we finished 6th..4th and 1st in the championship...and this year where ever we finish,its in the prem.

we havent had a better league season than them 4 in 40 years.........so whatever you think its not failure

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:01 pm

Broadcasted the name/brand Cardiff City accross the globe.
Set a new record for a televised game in the USA.
Stands on the brink Making the club debt free..(just needs to take a few more steps).



But let's just focus on the negatives eh :lol:




Tan has fucked this up for himself.
But you cannot suggest he has never done anything good for the club.
Even a very vocal anti Tan Moderator has said as much.

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:10 pm

AJ1927 wrote:Broadcasted the name/brand Cardiff City accross the globe.
Set a new record for a televised game in the USA.
Stands on the brink Making the club debt free..(just needs to take a few more steps).



But let's just focus on the negatives eh :lol:




Tan has fucked this up for himself.
But you cannot suggest he has never done anything good for the club.
Even a very vocal anti Tan Moderator has said as much.


Are fans supposed to be greatful to be shown-up around the world as a sell-out club, & how do viewing figures for fans in South Wales affect their viewing pleasure? I've had some interesting debates today :laughing6:

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:11 pm

Bluebird64 wrote:Dont forget the extra millions Tan Cost us by not paying the Langstone debt on time.


Sam got paid quite a bit less than he was claiming 5 years ago.......the langstone debt,and much of its interest were incured prior to Tans involvement......
why make shit up?

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:50 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:Dont forget the extra millions Tan Cost us by not paying the Langstone debt on time.


Sam got paid quite a bit less than he was claiming 5 years ago.......the langstone debt,and much of its interest were incured prior to Tans involvement......
why make shit up?

Bollox. Tan had the opportunity to settle the Langstone debt early and save a few million. He stubbornly chose not to.

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:19 am

Bluebird64 wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:Dont forget the extra millions Tan Cost us by not paying the Langstone debt on time.


Sam got paid quite a bit less than he was claiming 5 years ago.......the langstone debt,and much of its interest were incured prior to Tans involvement......
why make shit up?

Bollox. Tan had the opportunity to settle the Langstone debt early and save a few million. He stubbornly chose not to.


yes he did stubbornly refuse to...........he re negotiated it and paid less......its called being a good business man..and no its not bollox at all...........the figures will be in the accounts........what Sam/ Langstone said it was have been openly reported for years.............as i said...........dont make shit up

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:41 am

soulofthesea wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:Dont forget the extra millions Tan Cost us by not paying the Langstone debt on time.


Sam got paid quite a bit less than he was claiming 5 years ago.......the langstone debt,and much of its interest were incured prior to Tans involvement......
why make shit up?

Bollox. Tan had the opportunity to settle the Langstone debt early and save a few million. He stubbornly chose not to.


yes he did stubbornly refuse to...........he re negotiated it and paid less......its called being a good business man..and no its not bollox at all...........the figures will be in the accounts........what Sam/ Langstone said it was have been openly reported for years.............as i said...........dont make shit up


Judging from the way he had run our club I don't think negotiation is his strong point :lol:

It is true though - the terms of repaying the debt were negotiated and a settlement figure was agreed on

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:12 am

ThomasC wrote:I would like to work at the club shop....I could get a mannequin of myself & go down the pub for a few pints :)


I hope it is true that sales are massively down but I went into the club shop for the first time since last season as I was at the game early last Saturday & it was jam packed with queues at the till.

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:38 am

ThomasC wrote:I would like to work at the club shop....I could get a mannequin of myself & go down the pub for a few pints :)


:lol: :lol:

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:39 am

Nobody can be surprised how quiet the club shop is, a total f**k up in the colour change, how tan didn't see that coming is beyond me it really is, wanker

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:50 am

soulofthesea wrote:this i think is his fourth season involved..............hate him ,love him or just tolerate him

the facts are we finished 6th..4th and 1st in the championship...and this year where ever we finish,its in the prem.

we havent had a better league season than them 4 in 40 years.........so whatever you think its not failure


But when we start next season how will we be better off?

Same division but with tens of millions in debt added.

Yes, one season in which we've been a laughing stock in the Prem.

And we've lost our identity.

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:04 pm

Halifax93 wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:this i think is his fourth season involved..............hate him ,love him or just tolerate him

the facts are we finished 6th..4th and 1st in the championship...and this year where ever we finish,its in the prem.

we havent had a better league season than them 4 in 40 years.........so whatever you think its not failure


But when we start next season how will we be better off?

Same division but with tens of millions in debt added.

Yes, one season in which we've been a laughing stock in the Prem.

And we've lost our identity.


quite simply you can not call our 4 most successful seasons in 40 years a failure...........what happens next we dont yet know.........we could be in the prem in blue..........or as you say championship in red...........but we cant call the future a failure until it happens

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:07 pm

Tans obviously an intelligent man but by f**k didn't he f**k up with the rebrand.

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:27 pm

Halifax93 wrote:1 Tan has spent tens of millions, or rather loaned our club tens of millions, and we're soon to be in the same division as when he took over despite our debt now smashing £100m.

2 Prices will have increased massively for season tickets for similar standard football (although I had a price freeze - thanks Mr Ridsdale)

3 Sales are reportedly hugely down in club shop since rebrand

4 Vast majority of home fans reject the red and wear blue to games

5 Most loyal fans ie. those at away, games despise the red, sing about staying blue and want Tan out

6 Ran the club so badly he didn't know how much was being spent on transfers

7 Actually succeeds in making Ridsdale look competent who at least changed our badge back and inadvertently gave us cheap season tickets


Firstly thank you for your valued opinion. In reply I would like to state the following articles by way of reply.

1. Vincent Tan has released many millions of GBP to the Company of which he is also a vast shareholder. This was and is to support the Company and create success.

2. Yes with inflation prices have increased. Much of that inflation is to the position of the Company in it's field of work, ie the Premier status.

3. Sales in the Club stores have increased due to the increased foot flow to stores since reaching the Premier League. Due to the Companies increased purchasing and negotiation position the retail operation has better margin position which see's both operations profitable. It's accepted that sales on certain lines are not as expected but the balance is leveled by way of the increased margins. At the same instance sales are expected to increase on the less current popular lines.

4. It's a customers choice to what they wish to wear to matches. This has no bearing on the business.

5. It's with respect that opinion will always be expressed, although greater success in time will bring opinions associated with success.

6. The Company has not be " run badly " the Company has been salvaged and set a task of becoming self funding within it's own right whilst creating success.

7. Peter played his role which remains in the past, whilst it's felt looking forward if a far more positive stance.

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:27 pm

People can say what they want about the shop and sales but bar the shirts all the merchandise and tack I see more and more at every game, if its from their foam fingers to the casual wear.

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:30 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:People can say what they want about the shop and sales but bar the shirts all the merchandise and tack I see more and more at every game, if its from their foam fingers to the casual wear.


I think that there's been less red in the second half of the season - certainly sine the whole moody fiasco

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:57 pm

Rodbers wrote:
Halifax93 wrote:1 Tan has spent tens of millions, or rather loaned our club tens of millions, and we're soon to be in the same division as when he took over despite our debt now smashing £100m.

2 Prices will have increased massively for season tickets for similar standard football (although I had a price freeze - thanks Mr Ridsdale)

3 Sales are reportedly hugely down in club shop since rebrand

4 Vast majority of home fans reject the red and wear blue to games

5 Most loyal fans ie. those at away, games despise the red, sing about staying blue and want Tan out

6 Ran the club so badly he didn't know how much was being spent on transfers

7 Actually succeeds in making Ridsdale look competent who at least changed our badge back and inadvertently gave us cheap season tickets


Firstly thank you for your valued opinion. In reply I would like to state the following articles by way of reply.

1. Vincent Tan has released many millions of GBP to the Company of which he is also a vast shareholder. This was and is to support the Company and create success.

2. Yes with inflation prices have increased. Much of that inflation is to the position of the Company in it's field of work, ie the Premier status.

3. Sales in the Club stores have increased due to the increased foot flow to stores since reaching the Premier League. Due to the Companies increased purchasing and negotiation position the retail operation has better margin position which see's both operations profitable. It's accepted that sales on certain lines are not as expected but the balance is leveled by way of the increased margins. At the same instance sales are expected to increase on the less current popular lines.

4. It's a customers choice to what they wish to wear to matches. This has no bearing on the business.

5. It's with respect that opinion will always be expressed, although greater success in time will bring opinions associated with success.

6. The Company has not be " run badly " the Company has been salvaged and set a task of becoming self funding within it's own right whilst creating success.

7. Peter played his role which remains in the past, whilst it's felt looking forward if a far more positive stance.


WTF?! Nice satirical post. It could ALMOST have come from a club employee...

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:57 pm

Rodbers wrote:
Halifax93 wrote:1 Tan has spent tens of millions, or rather loaned our club tens of millions, and we're soon to be in the same division as when he took over despite our debt now smashing £100m.

2 Prices will have increased massively for season tickets for similar standard football (although I had a price freeze - thanks Mr Ridsdale)

3 Sales are reportedly hugely down in club shop since rebrand

4 Vast majority of home fans reject the red and wear blue to games

5 Most loyal fans ie. those at away, games despise the red, sing about staying blue and want Tan out

6 Ran the club so badly he didn't know how much was being spent on transfers

7 Actually succeeds in making Ridsdale look competent who at least changed our badge back and inadvertently gave us cheap season tickets


Firstly thank you for your valued opinion. In reply I would like to state the following articles by way of reply.

1. Vincent Tan has released many millions of GBP to the Company of which he is also a vast shareholder. This was and is to support the Company and create success.

2. Yes with inflation prices have increased. Much of that inflation is to the position of the Company in it's field of work, ie the Premier status.

3. Sales in the Club stores have increased due to the increased foot flow to stores since reaching the Premier League. Due to the Companies increased purchasing and negotiation position the retail operation has better margin position which see's both operations profitable. It's accepted that sales on certain lines are not as expected but the balance is leveled by way of the increased margins. At the same instance sales are expected to increase on the less current popular lines.

4. It's a customers choice to what they wish to wear to matches. This has no bearing on the business.

5. It's with respect that opinion will always be expressed, although greater success in time will bring opinions associated with success.

6. The Company has not be " run badly " the Company has been salvaged and set a task of becoming self funding within it's own right whilst creating success.

7. Peter played his role which remains in the past, whilst it's felt looking forward if a far more positive stance.


WTF?! Nice satirical post. It could ALMOST have come from a club employee...

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:58 pm

TRose69 wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:People can say what they want about the shop and sales but bar the shirts all the merchandise and tack I see more and more at every game, if its from their foam fingers to the casual wear.


I think that there's been less red in the second half of the season - certainly sine the whole moody fiasco


Red shirts you barely see, but any other product with the badge or colour red which is club merchandise is still a lot around especially in the Canton, considering I get there early before kick off I usually see people walking up and down because I am near the steps, I have seen completely new merchandise every week which I never knew was on sale, the casual wear with the badge on there is horrific but people are wearing it like a Fashion almost.

Re: TAN + RED = FAILURE

Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:45 am

Halifax93 wrote:1 Tan has spent tens of millions, or rather loaned our club tens of millions, and we're soon to be in the same division as when he took over despite our debt now smashing £100m.

2 Prices will have increased massively for season tickets for similar standard football (although I had a price freeze - thanks Mr Ridsdale)

3 Sales are reportedly hugely down in club shop since rebrand

4 Vast majority of home fans reject the red and wear blue to games

5 Most loyal fans ie. those at away, games despise the red, sing about staying blue and want Tan out

6 Ran the club so badly he didn't know how much was being spent on transfers

7 Actually succeeds in making Ridsdale look competent who at least changed our badge back and inadvertently gave us cheap season tickets


Lol the colour has nothing to do with it, its the shit football thats got us in this position. It truly is shame to say.