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Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mackay?

Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:11 pm

Andreas Cornelius: Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mackay?


My take on the latest Lim/Mackay shenanigan
link
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/phil-jo ... 87935.html

Re: My take on the latest Lim/Mackay shenanigans

Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:13 pm

My take Alfie funny enough is

" It's like the village idiots at a Buckingham palace tea party is Franchise FC in the Premier league .... Roll on relegation "

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:33 pm

alfie sherwood wrote:Andreas Cornelius: Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mackay?


My take on the latest Lim/Mackay shenanigan
link
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/phil-jo ... 87935.html


Phil, I feel your spot on.
link
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136229 :thumbup:

Malky got us promoted and made our club over £100 mill.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:48 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
alfie sherwood wrote:Andreas Cornelius: Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mackay?


My take on the latest Lim/Mackay shenanigan
link
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/phil-jo ... 87935.html


Phil, I feel your spot on.
link
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136229 :thumbup:

Malky got us promoted and made our club over £100 mill.


And then failed miserably in sufficiently improving the squad.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:53 pm

toshacks_1_tales wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
alfie sherwood wrote:Andreas Cornelius: Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mackay?


My take on the latest Lim/Mackay shenanigan
link
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/phil-jo ... 87935.html


Phil, I feel your spot on.
link
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136229 :thumbup:

Malky got us promoted and made our club over £100 mill.


And then failed miserably in sufficiently improving the squad.



We were never in the bottom 3 and if left alone would of prob ended up just below middle in the league. Everyone said, the first season all they wanted was to stay up. Be interesting now what happens.

Re: My take on the latest Lim/Mackay shenanigans

Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:57 pm

Daya wrote:My take Alfie funny enough is

" It's like the village idiots at a Buckingham palace tea party is Franchise FC in the Premier league .... Roll on relegation "

f**k off you parrot stop repeating yourself you drunken c**t

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:01 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
toshacks_1_tales wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
alfie sherwood wrote:Andreas Cornelius: Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mackay?


My take on the latest Lim/Mackay shenanigan
link
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/phil-jo ... 87935.html


Phil, I feel your spot on.
link
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136229 :thumbup:

Malky got us promoted and made our club over £100 mill.


And then failed miserably in sufficiently improving the squad.



We were never in the bottom 3 and if left alone would of prob ended up just below middle in the league. Everyone said, the first season all they wanted was to stay up. Be interesting now what happens.


You need an eye test. Malky's football was taking us down. I've got a voucher here for a free eye test and a nice pair of Gucci rose tinted spectacles. Swansea and West Ham aside, a game we could and should have won, all the results so far have gone as expected. Takes a long time to polish a turd. You can thank Malky for leaving that behind.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:20 pm

You keep saying we were never in the bottom 3 yet we were in freefall under Malky and had a tough set of fixtures to come if he stayed, We were lucky to have one shot on target a game under him if we were lucky.We were doomed under him and I cant believe you cant see that.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:30 pm

alfie sherwood wrote:Andreas Cornelius: Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mackay?


My take on the latest Lim/Mackay shenanigan
link
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/phil-jo ... 87935.html

alfie,of course tan nneds to discredit malky.otherwise was there decent grounds for dismissal just on footballing issues?young manager struggles at wrong end of the table with newly promoted team shock :shock: cast a dim light on a signing that didnt work out and hey ho we have a theory.the league managers union seem to think mm is on solid ground.i wish someone would bump a thread about acorns signing then we can see who was leading the backslapping about this kid who had europe at his feet but chose ccfc.no doubt the same people who are trying to diss malky.acorn was heralded as a marquee signing by some on here.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
alfie sherwood wrote:Andreas Cornelius: Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mackay?


My take on the latest Lim/Mackay shenanigan
link
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/phil-jo ... 87935.html


Phil, I feel your spot on.
link
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136229 :thumbup:

Malky got us promoted and made our club over £100 mill.


Too many City fans seem intent on rewriting history. I can only think that they are swallowing Tan's propaganda.

I have no particular allegiance to Malky but he did an incredible job at Cardiff City. That really is a fact.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:52 pm

Can't agree, I would have sacked MAlky if it was my business, the amount he agreed to pay beggars belief, yes Lim signed it off but it was MAlkys player. Have to question did MAlky/moody ever watch him play. All the talk about him being a player for future is a p take on club/fans, MAlky knew he had to build a team for now. Yes MAlky got us promoted and should be applauded, but he failed this season. If MAlky had still been in charge in January we still would of been in bottom 3 with the fixtures we had.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:24 pm

Tan and his fellow rodents are really beginning to show their teeth now. Dont ever forget they come from a Country that runs on corruption and back stabbing. When you are as wealthy as they are, people like us are disposable to some extent and the last thing they are worried about is ruining a young Managers career and now they are down to "looking in dustbins" to find all the dirt that is at the bottom!. I dont think they would let the truth get in the way of a good character assassination.

They are a bunch of lowlifes who I wouldn't buy a secondhand car off.
Sooner they desert this rapidly sinking ship the better.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:31 pm

BIZARRELY????????????????........bizarrely sold him back......ffs
the guy who wrote this says he is a BIT detached since the rebrand......must have just woke from a coma.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:39 pm

Grumpyguts wrote:Tan and his fellow rodents are really beginning to show their teeth now. Dont ever forget they come from a Country that runs on corruption and back stabbing. When you are as wealthy as they are, people like us are disposable to some extent and the last thing they are worried about is ruining a young Managers career and now they are down to "looking in dustbins" to find all the dirt that is at the bottom!. I dont think they would let the truth get in the way of a good character assassination.

They are a bunch of lowlifes who I wouldn't buy a secondhand car off.
Sooner they desert this rapidly sinking ship the better.


you have no doubt that Malky bought this boy in good faith with total belief he was a prem class striker...????????
there is either something very very wrong with this deal...OR
Malky and Moody had absolutely no idea how to judge a striker..
either way..they had to go..
btw..this board had 10 threads a day about how poor this boy was.....its not Tans fault he was poor..

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
alfie sherwood wrote:Andreas Cornelius: Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mackay?


My take on the latest Lim/Mackay shenanigan
link
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/phil-jo ... 87935.html


Phil, I feel your spot on.
link
http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewt ... 2&t=136229 :thumbup:

Malky got us promoted and made our club over £100 mill.


You act as if Tan didn't give Malky £10 million+ to get us there.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:15 pm

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136246 :thumbup:

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:16 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
alfie sherwood wrote:Andreas Cornelius: Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mackay?


My take on the latest Lim/Mackay shenanigan
link
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/phil-jo ... 87935.html


Phil, I feel your spot on.
link
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136229 :thumbup:

Malky got us promoted and made our club over £100 mill.


You act as if Tan didn't give Malky £10 million+ to get us there.



viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136246 :thumbup:

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:29 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
Grumpyguts wrote:Tan and his fellow rodents are really beginning to show their teeth now. Dont ever forget they come from a Country that runs on corruption and back stabbing. When you are as wealthy as they are, people like us are disposable to some extent and the last thing they are worried about is ruining a young Managers career and now they are down to "looking in dustbins" to find all the dirt that is at the bottom!. I dont think they would let the truth get in the way of a good character assassination.

They are a bunch of lowlifes who I wouldn't buy a secondhand car off.
Sooner they desert this rapidly sinking ship the better.


you have no doubt that Malky bought this boy in good faith with total belief he was a prem class striker...????????
there is either something very very wrong with this deal...OR
Malky and Moody had absolutely no idea how to judge a striker..
either way..they had to go..
btw..this board had 10 threads a day about how poor this boy was.....its not Tans fault he was poor..


Or Cornelius is a talented boy, as his record in Denmark would suggest, but he got unlucky with an early injury that was hardly helpful in his adjustment to a new club and country and as a consequence lost form and confidence. It happens all the time.

It's hardly rocket science.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:33 pm

soulofthesea wrote:BIZARRELY????????????????........bizarrely sold him back......ffs
the guy who wrote this says he is a BIT detached since the rebrand......must have just woke from a coma.


Of course it's bizarre.

I get the feeling that Tan would rather take a hefty financial hit than wait for the lad to come good just so that he can score a few pathetic points over Malky Mackay, ahead of what will be a bitter and public legal battle.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:37 pm

Annis why do you keep saying we were never in the bottom 3 under malky we was after the 1st game ?

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:38 pm

alfie sherwood wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:BIZARRELY????????????????........bizarrely sold him back......ffs
the guy who wrote this says he is a BIT detached since the rebrand......must have just woke from a coma.


Of course it's bizarre.

I get the feeling that Tan would rather take a hefty financial hit than wait for the lad to come good just so that he can score a few pathetic points over Malky Mackay, ahead of what will be a bitter and public legal battle.


EVERY Cardiff fan wanted this boy to work out............he wasnt good enough im afraid

and i dont really see what Tan gains out of Cornelius going back..playing well.scoring goals..all be it in denmark,when he could be sat oon the bench for the development side, surely the later would make far more of a point if thats what he wanted

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:41 pm

alfie sherwood wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:BIZARRELY????????????????........bizarrely sold him back......ffs
the guy who wrote this says he is a BIT detached since the rebrand......must have just woke from a coma.


Of course it's bizarre.

I get the feeling that Tan would rather take a hefty financial hit than wait for the lad to come good just so that he can score a few pathetic points over Malky Mackay, ahead of what will be a bitter and public legal battle.

I dont doubt that for a minute Alfie.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:39 pm

I still think Cornelius wasn't given enough time.

A kid who moved to a new country, new culture, food, training methods, don't know if any family or friends came with him, injured early on, people criticising him early on, Tan probably making life uncomfortable with the bubbling resentment about Malky's transfer dealings.

The start he made was comparable to Anleka and Diego Forlan when they moved to the UK. 11 games (and partial appearances) is simply not enough to judge, despite all the "he clearly isn't up to it" comments.

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:10 pm

alfie sherwood wrote:Andreas Cornelius: Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mackay?


My take on the latest Lim/Mackay shenanigan
link
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/phil-jo ... 87935.html


A £8.5 Million mistake, I'm not knocking Malky overall he did an excellent job and was a good solid Manager, and a good man IMO, but unfortunately this was an expensive mistake...

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:10 pm

.........Blueblueblue
I still think Cornelius wasn't given enough time...
A kid who moved to a new country, new culture, food, training methods, don't know if any family or friends came with him, injured early on, people criticising him early on, Tan probably making life uncomfortable with the bubbling resentment about Malky's transfer dealings.

The start he made was comparable to Anleka and Diego Forlan when they moved to the UK. 11 games (and partial appearances) is simply not enough to judge, despite all the "he clearly isn't up to it" comments........
.....completely agree
MM made quite a few mistakes and a young relatively untried footballer was. Ot the right call. But he may wel be proved righ and AC could have been one for the future. By selling him back at a fraction of we paid we may have compounded the error. Very odd that we should probably have loaned him back.
Bluebirds :sleepy2:

Re: Andreas Cornelius:Just a Pawn in a Game to Discredit Mac

Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:15 am

I'm sorry but Anelka and Forlan are completely different class to this kid. I still believe he might have a chance in the future but he certainly wasn't ready for the Prem let alone shouldn't be paid 45k a week