Malky vs OGS.

If I was given a straight choice of who I wanted as manager in a relegation dogfight there would only be one winner. MM.
The object was to stay up this season whilst the pretty football could come later with or without Malky.
I would rather him next to me in the trenches rather than Ole who looked like a frightened rabbit stuck in the headlights yesterday all day long.

If I was given a straight choice of who I wanted as manager in a relegation dogfight there would only be one winner. MM.
The object was to stay up this season whilst the pretty football could come later with or without Malky.
I would rather him next to me in the trenches rather than Ole who looked like a frightened rabbit stuck in the headlights yesterday all day long.

Agree 100% but I will back ole no matter what

Its unfair to compare the two. Ole has had 5 league games so we dont really know what hes like.

Easy to say that as Malky has managed in the English leagues and blinds everyone by a fist pump. Whilst I appreciate what Malky done here, it's completely unfair to put down the new manager in Ole because he's lost more than he's won in the league, we had the hardest month going in Jan, we also had to conduct our business but not spend too much. January is a horrible month to conduct business in and very rarely are teams 100% satisfactory with what they get.

It's a sign of weakness that fans continue to refer to the previous manager, it shows that they can't let go and back the new manager. Support the team not the manager, no one is bigger than the club. VT and Malky would have never resolved their differences and there would have been NO January reinforcements, we'd be in an even worse position with the atmosphere around the place

If I was given a straight choice of who I wanted as manager in a relegation dogfight there would only be one winner. MM.
The object was to stay up this season whilst the pretty football could come later with or without Malky.
I would rather him next to me in the trenches rather than Ole who looked like a frightened rabbit stuck in the headlights yesterday all day long.

Agree 100% but I will back ole no matter what

As I will mate. I certainly won't be ranting for him to be sacked like some are already ffs.
Hopefully he will turn things around but I fear the worst for Tuesday.

Malky was fukin shite, the only thing malky was doing was sending us into administration with his obscene spending.

f**k me ole only had 5 league games with us f*cking hell crying like f**k coz we lost

Easy to say that as Malky has managed in the English leagues and blinds everyone by a fist pump. Whilst I appreciate what Malky done here, it's completely unfair to put down the new manager in Ole because he's lost more than he's won in the league, we had the hardest month going in Jan, we also had to conduct our business but not spend too much. January is a horrible month to conduct business in and very rarely are teams 100% satisfactory with what they get.

It's a sign of weakness that fans continue to refer to the previous manager, it shows that they can't let go and back the new manager. Support the team not the manager, no one is bigger than the club. VT and Malky would have never resolved their differences and there would have been NO January reinforcements, we'd be in an even worse position with the atmosphere around the place

I actually agree with most of what you say & you've said it well.
I'm not blinded by the 'fist pump' type of thing & I will certainly back OGS 100%. Just a hypothetical question with no other factors involved.
Ole may well turn into a good coach/manager & I hope he does. These things take time though & after yesterday's team selection & substitutions he'll have to learn a bit quicker than he is IMO.

Easy to say that as Malky has managed in the English leagues and blinds everyone by a fist pump. Whilst I appreciate what Malky done here, it's completely unfair to put down the new manager in Ole because he's lost more than he's won in the league, we had the hardest month going in Jan, we also had to conduct our business but not spend too much. January is a horrible month to conduct business in and very rarely are teams 100% satisfactory with what they get.

It's a sign of weakness that fans continue to refer to the previous manager, it shows that they can't let go and back the new manager. Support the team not the manager, no one is bigger than the club. VT and Malky would have never resolved their differences and there would have been NO January reinforcements, we'd be in an even worse position with the atmosphere around the place

I actually agree with most of what you say & you've said it well.
I'm not blinded by the 'fist pump' type of thing & I will certainly back OGS 100%. Just a hypothetical question with no other factors involved.
Ole may well turn into a good coach/manager & I hope he does. These things take time though & after yesterday's team selection & substitutions he'll have to learn a bit quicker than he is IMO.

I am a big Ole fan and I can't defend yesterday much because of the team we set out was always going to lose, a NMF Zaha and not playing two of our most influential players was a recipe for disaster. I hope Ole picks up quick as we need to get at least 7 pts this month, maximum points out of our next two would give us a huge buzz around the place. I think he's good with substituions as proven with Newcastle+Bolton away and Norwich home but yesterday everything was just so unorganised

Whilst Malky was a good manager for us he's gone now and has nothing to do with us any more , we need to move on OGS is the manager now we need to back him and stop things like "we would of stayed up under Malky, we would of won that game under Malky"etc . Get behind OGS

Ole is a better manager. If we go down, he will take us back up and we'll be better prepared for the PL next time around as we'll play a better brand of football. Had we gone down under Malky it would have been very tough as a lot of his old heads would have been older again meaning he'd have had to cast his net further afield again and wouldnt have his known players to rely on.

Malky...Good

1. Good Man Management skills
2. Excellent motivator
3. Brilliant Fist Pump
4. Praises the fans
5. Smiles a lot

Malky ....Bad

1. Clueless on player ability
2. Signs players of dubious quality
3. A question over his financial dealings (allegedly)
4. A dubious media player
5. Refuses to say it as it is
6. Limited tactical nous
7. Poor use of substitutes

Ole...Good

1. Not afraid to buy players
2. Likes attacking football
3. Not afraid to make controversial changes to team selection
4. Smiles a lot
5. A mate of Alex Ferguson

Ole....Bad

1. Dubious Man Management skills
2. Not afraid to make poor team selections
3. Unwilling to play some players already bought
4. Too gung ho on times
5. Poor defensive awareness
6. Motivational skills not clear
7. Refuses to say it as it is
8. Limited tactical nous
9 Poor use of substitutes
10. Unclear if he listens to Alex Ferguson
11. No fist pump yet

You pays your money and you takes your choice!

The brand of football we played yesterday was no different to the Malky brand - except we didn't have the passion or hunger. It's easy to say Malky is better now but he had his flaws. How did noone hardly get a look in? How did we spunk 8 mill on Cornelius? What happened to Brayford?

The first few games under ole I was really impressed with the way we were playing but yesterday was dire. Kenwyn jones is an absolute donkey and Campbell should be starting every game over jones unless he is injured or suspended. How did mutch and noone not play yesterday? Unless they had injuries of course and why was kev brought on at 1-0?

One thing I do think however, is under Malky we would have been far more passionate yesterday. If there is one thing to say about Malky, he was a good big game manager!

The brand of football we played yesterday was no different to the Malky brand - except we didn't have the passion or hunger. It's easy to say Malky is better now but he had his flaws. How did noone hardly get a look in? How did we spunk 8 mill on Cornelius? What happened to Brayford?

The first few games under ole I was really impressed with the way we were playing but yesterday was dire. Kenwyn jones is an absolute donkey and Campbell should be starting every game over jones unless he is injured or suspended. How did mutch and noone not play yesterday? Unless they had injuries of course and why was kev brought on at 1-0?

One thing I do think however, is under Malky we would have been far more passionate yesterday. If there is one thing to say about Malky, he was a good big game manager!

And that last paragraph is the reason I would choose Malky for the run in.
They both have their good & bad points of course but I'll stick by ole & hope he learns to wise up pretty quickly.

I would choose Malky but I'm going to look at it objectively at the end of the season. Malky got 17pts from 18 games and then there were the two games before Ole took over meaning that Ole also has 18 games. He has been able to bring in some new players so has better resources than Malky had and an easier fixture list. Malky faced just 2 of the other 10 teams fighting against relegation at home where as Ole will get to play 7 of them.

If Ole gets more than 17pts then I will accept that he has done as good or better job then Malky, if not then it wasn't a good decision to replace Malky and Tan should have kept out of the football side of things and let Malky finish the job this season. If he still wasn't happy at the end of the season then that would have been the time to change direction.

The decision may end up costing Tan £40m next year but I have a feeling he won't take any responsibility.

I wouldn't have seen us winning the two FA Cups or beating Norwich under MM, put it that way.

Or scoring 2 at Man City.

I wouldn't have seen us winning the two FA Cups or beating Norwich under MM, put it that way.

Or scoring 2 at Man City.

Agree, how any can even count Oles record against arenal, man city and Utd away is a joke. To be fair to him we should of beat west ham at home but there just wasn't enough quality to score not Oles fault.

You get what you wish for. We are now tactically indept.

Free flowing concede, concede, concede.

You get what you wish for. We are now tactically indept.

Free flowing concede, concede, concede.

Didn't we concede 3 at home against Southampton under malky and have the 2nd worst goals conceded record? Or am I mistaken

I wouldn't have seen us winning the two FA Cups or beating Norwich under MM, put it that way.

Or scoring 2 at Man City.

Agree, how any can even count Oles record against arenal, man city and Utd away is a joke. To be fair to him we should of beat west ham at home but there just wasn't enough quality to score not Oles fault.

That's why I'm going to judge him at the end of the season. If he can't match Malky's 17pts with new players and easier home fixtures then we can start justifiably moaning about him.

Malky Mackay 100% for me

I wouldn't have seen us winning the two FA Cups or beating Norwich under MM, put it that way.

Or scoring 2 at Man City.

Agree, how any can even count Oles record against arenal, man city and Utd away is a joke. To be fair to him we should of beat west ham at home but there just wasn't enough quality to score not Oles fault.

That's why I'm going to judge him at the end of the season. If he can't match Malky's 17pts with new players and easier home fixtures then we can start justifiably moaning about him.

And 1 game less he didn't start til after arsenal actually. Dnt you think it's abit unfair that malky had games against man utd, man city, arsenal, spurs, Everton at home and Ole has all these away.

I wouldn't have seen us winning the two FA Cups or beating Norwich under MM, put it that way.

Or scoring 2 at Man City.

Agree, how any can even count Oles record against arenal, man city and Utd away is a joke. To be fair to him we should of beat west ham at home but there just wasn't enough quality to score not Oles fault.

This. WHU was still Malky's team. Its ridiculous to judge him on that.

I wouldn't have seen us winning the two FA Cups or beating Norwich under MM, put it that way.

Or scoring 2 at Man City.

Agree, how any can even count Oles record against arenal, man city and Utd away is a joke. To be fair to him we should of beat west ham at home but there just wasn't enough quality to score not Oles fault.

That's why I'm going to judge him at the end of the season. If he can't match Malky's 17pts with new players and easier home fixtures then we can start justifiably moaning about him.

And 1 game less he didn't start til after arsenal actually. Dnt you think it's abit unfair that malky had games against man utd, man city, arsenal, spurs, Everton at home and Ole has all these away.

They will both have 18 games each with Sunderland and Arsenal the ones where neither were in charge. Ole gets the hard teams away but all the easier teams at home so he should definitely get more points than Malky if he is up to the job.