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Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:49 am

If I ran a business in London I would be going berserk.

To save a few jobs in the ticket offices they are costing businesses, families and people thousands/millions of pounds.

I'm in favour of them when actual injustice has been done, but they are trying to save a few jobs when it is down to the managers of the business to decide if they are to sack people or hire people. No hardship has been done as the jobs are now irrelevant, machines can carry the job out. Yet they cause absolute chaos to save face. Like f*cking firemen striking on new years eve, all greed, pure greed.

Unions are a spent force and Cameron needs to destroy the remaining dinosaurs and let actual workers rebuild them.

A standard ticket office:

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Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:07 pm

Id set the fire alarm off and scare the crap out of her. :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:12 pm

I'd sack you and replace you with a machine tbh willy.

Might get some better posts out of a computer

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:16 pm

Are you two like a double act?.

And, I think people might be bored of talking about Swansea. Mix it up. Nothing like a good class dividing, hate filled post.

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:29 pm

How can you rebuild the Unions?,the people are the unions and they are democratic,any strike has to be balloted by the members(the people).

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:34 pm

Only 30% of the unions members voted to strike.

How is that a union that follows the voice of the people?.

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:51 pm

You don't run a business in London. In fact, like the urban spaceman, you don't ( really) exist.

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:29 pm

Willy-Wonka wrote:If I ran a business in London I would be going berserk.

To save a few jobs in the ticket offices they are costing businesses, families and people thousands/millions of pounds.

I'm in favour of them when actual injustice has been done, but they are trying to save a few jobs when it is down to the managers of the business to decide if they are to sack people or hire people. No hardship has been done as the jobs are now irrelevant, machines can carry the job out. Yet they cause absolute chaos to save face. Like f*cking firemen striking on new years eve, all greed, pure greed.

Unions are a spent force and Cameron needs to destroy the remaining dinosaurs and let actual workers rebuild them.

A standard ticket office:

Image


Thats what happens when you get SCABS to cross the picket line.
fat lazy scabbie bitch :evil:

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:57 pm

The pic was taken before the strike!! :lol:

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:11 pm

Question the reason for a strike by all means.......but dont have a pop at unions......because if it was not for them you would not have decent pay,holidays, health and safety at work and pensions.
have the decency to remember what your forefathers fought for to get us these things.

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:19 pm

Boris made a pledge that no ticket office staff would be made redundant during his current term in office. Crow is not opposed to technology and understands that investment in it will inevitably make some jobs obsolete, the fact that Johnson has refused to negotiate with the RMT etc on how these changes will be managed is the key issue here.

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:03 pm

Denzil wrote:Question the reason for a strike by all means.......but dont have a pop at unions......because if it was not for them you would not have decent pay,holidays, health and safety at work and pensions.
have the decency to remember what your forefathers fought for to get us these things.


Excellent post and spot on Denzil :thumbup:


Exactly the same people having a pop at the Unions are the same people moaning about low paid jobs, how bad the terms and conditions are, non paid breaks etc... etc... etc ...

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:14 pm

I know Unions have done some good.

Bringing London to its knees over the complaints of a few doesn't help in the grand scheme of things. This will cost the UK millions of pounds.

Those people may feel injustice, but what about the poor people that struggle to pay rent that now can't get to work.

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:22 pm

Willy-Wonka wrote:Only 30% of the unions members voted to strike.

How is that a union that follows the voice of the people?.

What pecentage of the vote to run this country?

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:32 pm

Yes, them bloody trade unionist who are trying to preserve well paid jobs, with pension rights, holiday pay contracted hours who do they think they are sticking not only for their members. :? :? :? :?

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:32 pm

Willy-Wonka wrote:I know Unions have done some good.

Bringing London to its knees over the complaints of a few doesn't help in the grand scheme of things. This will cost the UK millions of pounds.

Those people may feel injustice, but what about the poor people that struggle to pay rent that now can't get to work.



No form of industrial action is painless but unions are there to protect the jobs and terms of conditions of their members, if there was no disruption caused by the strike then they probably would not have bothered to take such action in the first place. Crow has been very successful in dong this often securing above cost of living wage rises, unheard of in this day and age.

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:33 pm

Yes, them bloody trade unionist who are trying to preserve well paid jobs, with pension rights, holiday pay contracted hours who do they think they are sticking their members. :? :? :? :?

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:37 pm

Walesaway1958 wrote:Yes, them bloody trade unionist who are trying to preserve well paid jobs, with pension rights, holiday pay contracted hours who do they think they are sticking their members. :? :? :? :?


You only look at it from the workers perspective. Unions are far from the freedom fighters you make them out to be.

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:59 pm

Willy-Wonka wrote:
Walesaway1958 wrote:Yes, them bloody trade unionist who are trying to preserve well paid jobs, with pension rights, holiday pay contracted hours who do they think they are sticking their members. :? :? :? :?


You only look at it from the workers perspective. Unions are far from the freedom fighters you make them out to be.


As a worker I cant look at it any other way, freedom fighters is a bit strong, they were once upon a time

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:02 pm

Maybe we should abandon strikes, rights and unions and watch and wait while all those benevolent employers line up to give us better jobs, pay and pensions :lol: The reality is that such things have to be fought for and have to be maintained.

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:58 pm

Willy-Wonka wrote:If I ran a business in London I would be going berserk.

To save a few jobs in the ticket offices they are costing businesses, families and people thousands/millions of pounds.

I'm in favour of them when actual injustice has been done, but they are trying to save a few jobs when it is down to the managers of the business to decide if they are to sack people or hire people. No hardship has been done as the jobs are now irrelevant, machines can carry the job out. Yet they cause absolute chaos to save face. Like f*cking firemen striking on new years eve, all greed, pure greed.

Unions are a spent force and Cameron needs to destroy the remaining dinosaurs and let actual workers rebuild them.

A standard ticket office:

Image



So destroying the unions in your exalted position would be for the better, putting all the power to the employers, so who would fight for fairness for workers are you on mental health medication?

Re: Unions

Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:01 pm

I bet Swansealad thought this thread was about onions. :laughing6: