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Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:38 am

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I hope that cruciate ligament tear is nothing to worry about. :?
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5 goals in 32 games not too shabby! :ayatollah: (at Sevilla 2010-2014, picture cropped)
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And according to Fifa he's great at intercepting and jumping which could prove very useful.

Now all we have to do is not give him any penalties or free kicks, tell him not to dribble the ball far or volley, come down on him hard if he drops out of position and he's a pretty decent acquisition!

(and get him some new contact lenses for his vision) :ayatollah: :ole:
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Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:48 am

He was valued at 3 mil on that site the other day how has it dropped to 1 mil all of a sudden

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:51 am

BobbyBlue wrote:He was valued at 3 mil on that site the other day how has it dropped to 1 mil all of a sudden



maybe its because that is what we paid for him

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:56 am

BobbyBlue wrote:He was valued at 3 mil on that site the other day how has it dropped to 1 mil all of a sudden


Im not sure but he seems to have potential. Having a player like that could get us a bonus goal that could prove crucial. He appears to be a decent defender, perhaps the drop is due to him terminating his contract.....

Former Spain Under-19 international Cala, 24, terminated his contract at the Spanish club.
That move made him a free agent, which allowed the Welsh club to complete his signing after the January transfer window closed on Friday night.

Its going to take a few shrewd buys to recoup the losses made on Cornelius alone though.This could be a start. :ayatollah:

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:57 am

paulh_85 wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:He was valued at 3 mil on that site the other day how has it dropped to 1 mil all of a sudden



maybe its because that is what we paid for him


We had him on a free tho, the 1 mil was for getafe to pull out, we could not have paid 1 mil as it was outside the transfer window which is not allowed :?

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:07 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:He was valued at 3 mil on that site the other day how has it dropped to 1 mil all of a sudden



maybe its because that is what we paid for him


We had him on a free tho, the 1 mil was for getafe to pull out, we could not have paid 1 mil as it was outside the transfer window which is not allowed :?

So we paid Getafe £1 million for him then! :)

Can't see Sevilla agreeing to cancel his contract for nothing, when we're paying Getafe for him! :?

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:57 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:He was valued at 3 mil on that site the other day how has it dropped to 1 mil all of a sudden



maybe its because that is what we paid for him


We had him on a free tho, the 1 mil was for getafe to pull out, we could not have paid 1 mil as it was outside the transfer window which is not allowed :?

So we paid Getafe £1 million for him then! :)

Can't see Sevilla agreeing to cancel his contract for nothing, when we're paying Getafe for him! :?

He bought out his own contract

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:59 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:He was valued at 3 mil on that site the other day how has it dropped to 1 mil all of a sudden



maybe its because that is what we paid for him


We had him on a free tho, the 1 mil was for getafe to pull out, we could not have paid 1 mil as it was outside the transfer window which is not allowed :?

So we paid Getafe £1 million for him then! :)

Can't see Sevilla agreeing to cancel his contract for nothing, when we're paying Getafe for him! :?


No we didn't, 1 mil was given to getafe to pull out of the deal he bought his own contract out so was a free :lol:

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:08 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:He was valued at 3 mil on that site the other day how has it dropped to 1 mil all of a sudden



maybe its because that is what we paid for him


We had him on a free tho, the 1 mil was for getafe to pull out, we could not have paid 1 mil as it was outside the transfer window which is not allowed :?

So we paid Getafe £1 million for him then! :)

Can't see Sevilla agreeing to cancel his contract for nothing, when we're paying Getafe for him! :?


No we didn't, 1 mil was given to getafe to pull out of the deal he bought his own contract out so was a free :lol:

How can it be a free, if we pay £1 million towards his get out? :lol: :?

I'd suspect that even if we haven't paid Sevilla anything to allow him to pay up his contract, then we'll be paying him a sizeable signing on fee, which again isn't a free!

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:20 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:He was valued at 3 mil on that site the other day how has it dropped to 1 mil all of a sudden



maybe its because that is what we paid for him


We had him on a free tho, the 1 mil was for getafe to pull out, we could not have paid 1 mil as it was outside the transfer window which is not allowed :?

So we paid Getafe £1 million for him then! :)

Can't see Sevilla agreeing to cancel his contract for nothing, when we're paying Getafe for him! :?


No we didn't, 1 mil was given to getafe to pull out of the deal he bought his own contract out so was a free :lol:

How can it be a free, if we pay £1 million towards his get out? :lol: :?

I'd suspect that even if we haven't paid Sevilla anything to allow him to pay up his contract, then we'll be paying him a sizeable signing on fee, which again isn't a free!


How can we buy someone outside the transfer window? :lol: sizeable signing on fee? Don't talk so wet :ole:

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:21 pm

BobbyBlue wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
BobbyBlue wrote:He was valued at 3 mil on that site the other day how has it dropped to 1 mil all of a sudden



maybe its because that is what we paid for him


We had him on a free tho, the 1 mil was for getafe to pull out, we could not have paid 1 mil as it was outside the transfer window which is not allowed :?

So we paid Getafe £1 million for him then! :)

Can't see Sevilla agreeing to cancel his contract for nothing, when we're paying Getafe for him! :?


No we didn't, 1 mil was given to getafe to pull out of the deal he bought his own contract out so was a free :lol:

How can it be a free, if we pay £1 million towards his get out? :lol: :?

I'd suspect that even if we haven't paid Sevilla anything to allow him to pay up his contract, then we'll be paying him a sizeable signing on fee, which again isn't a free!


How can we buy someone outside the transfer window? :lol: sizeable signing on fee? Don't talk so wet :ole:

I never said we'd bought him inside or outside of the transfer window, just saying that if we've paid £1 million to Getafe, it's not a free is it? :lol:

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:34 pm

You can sign free agents outside of the transfer window
You can also pay any monies owed and even make the signing after the window is closed as long as The transfer is declared and the governing body made aware of the transfer and register it . It very rarely happens because it leaves the player in limbo if the deal falls apart afterwards . (ie - if you are awaiting international clearance or there is a financial dispute over compensation to another club )
The key is that the signing is registered before the window closes ( I'm guessing it was ) . The monies , clearance , disputes , medicals are nothing to do with it .

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:38 pm

thomasblue wrote:You can sign free agents outside of the transfer window
You can also pay any monies owed and even make the signing after the window is closed as long as The transfer is declared and the governing body made aware of the transfer and register it . It very rarely happens because it leaves the player in limbo if the deal falls apart afterwards . (ie - if you are awaiting international clearance or there is a financial dispute over compensation to another club )
The key is that the signing is registered before the window closes ( I'm guessing it was ) . The monies , clearance , disputes , medicals are nothing to do with it .

Cheers for clearing that up Thomas, so he is/was a free agent, but not a a free signing then! :D

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:49 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
thomasblue wrote:You can sign free agents outside of the transfer window
You can also pay any monies owed and even make the signing after the window is closed as long as The transfer is declared and the governing body made aware of the transfer and register it . It very rarely happens because it leaves the player in limbo if the deal falls apart afterwards . (ie - if you are awaiting international clearance or there is a financial dispute over compensation to another club )
The key is that the signing is registered before the window closes ( I'm guessing it was ) . The monies , clearance , disputes , medicals are nothing to do with it .

Cheers for clearing that up Thomas, so he is/was a free agent, but not a a free signing then! :D


It's a kind of loophole .
He is a free agent because his registration was with Sevilla who released him . If he had signed a pre contract agreement with Getafe to go there in the summer , that is what Cardiff are buying not the player , that is a legal issue not a registration issue which doesn't effect the transfer window .
IF Getafe had a pre-contract agreement it is legally binding , so in other words they are getting a million pound for somebody who has never played for them :roll: football has gone mad .

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:13 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
thomasblue wrote:You can sign free agents outside of the transfer window
You can also pay any monies owed and even make the signing after the window is closed as long as The transfer is declared and the governing body made aware of the transfer and register it . It very rarely happens because it leaves the player in limbo if the deal falls apart afterwards . (ie - if you are awaiting international clearance or there is a financial dispute over compensation to another club )
The key is that the signing is registered before the window closes ( I'm guessing it was ) . The monies , clearance , disputes , medicals are nothing to do with it .

Cheers for clearing that up Thomas, so he is/was a free agent, but not a a free signing then! :D


It's a kind of loophole .
He is a free agent because his registration was with Sevilla who released him . If he had signed a pre contract agreement with Getafe to go there in the summer , that is what Cardiff are buying not the player , that is a legal issue not a registration issue which doesn't effect the transfer window .
IF Getafe had a pre-contract agreement it is legally binding , so in other words they are getting a million pound for somebody who has never played for them :roll: football has gone mad .

Cheers Thomas, good tactic by our club though! :D :ayatollah:

Re: Juan Cala a quick analysis of our new signing

Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:45 pm

If a player signs on a free (not that that is what technically happened here) his 'value' is stipulated to a year of his wages, if I'm not mistaken. So either the £1M precontract buyout was considered a technical transfer fee, or his wages are £19K per week.