' Shocked at Villa fans '

Cardiff City offered them 2,710 tickets for their visit to us in over 40 plus years and they only want 2,173.
Cardiff took 3,033 fans to them.

I always thought of them as a big club and were less than 2 hrs away.
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It is midweek, Annis. To be fair to them, they are still bringing 2k plus. They have had a couple of very frustrating seasons. Last time Birmingham were down here they brought about 4 or 500. Perhaps we're not everybody's most attractive away venue! Still a big club, still decent away midweek support.

More generally, it seems that the PL are worried about away support overall.

It is midweek, Annis. To be fair to them, they are still bringing 2k plus. They have had a couple of very frustrating seasons. Last time Birmingham were down here they brought about 4 or 500. Perhaps we're not everybody's most attractive away venue! Still a big club, still decent away midweek support.

More generally, it seems that the PL are worried about away support overall.

Its less than 2hrs by car and many of their fans live this side of Brum, They get 35,000 home crowds, a massive fan base, first visit to us in 40 plus years, they dont know what bad times are, being in the lower leagues are bad times. We went to Stoke in midweek just before Xmas, we took nearly 2,100 fans and weve been there 8 times in recent years. Were not that expensive, Also No restrictions at all.

It's a bit harsh blaming the Villa fans, it's the clubs decision. They would have sold the full allocation, I'm sure of it, but once again though, another club has taken a smaller allocation to possibly save themselves a few thousand pounds. It has happened to us a few times this season.

It is midweek, Annis. To be fair to them, they are still bringing 2k plus. They have had a couple of very frustrating seasons. Last time Birmingham were down here they brought about 4 or 500. Perhaps we're not everybody's most attractive away venue! Still a big club, still decent away midweek support.

More generally, it seems that the PL are worried about away support overall.

Its less than 2hrs by car and many of their fans live this side of Brum, They get 35,000 home crowds, a massive fan base, first visit to us in 40 plus years, they dont know what bad times are, being in the lower leagues are bad times. We went to Stoke in midweek just before Xmas, we took nearly 2,100 fans and weve been there 8 times in recent years. Were not that expensive, Also No restrictions at all.

Fair points!

And its live on tele aswel but yea poor show as its a new ground for their fans i would understand if it was our 2nd or 3rd season

It's a bit harsh blaming the Villa fans, it's the clubs decision. They would have sold the full allocation, I'm sure of it, but once again though, another club has taken a smaller allocation to possibly save themselves a few thousand pounds. It has happened to us a few times this season.

Maybe it is their clubs fault, but I am still shocked, I honestly thought they were a massive club.

And its live on tele aswel but yea poor show as its a new ground for their fans i would understand if it was our 2nd or 3rd season

Chief, I thought of Villa as a Top 10 in the UK supported Club.

Its only down the road.

Don't know if they have sold them all yet. Last message on their site said on general sale. Only asked for just over half the full allocations for Everton and Man City too.

Could anyone clarify if all premier clubs away followings are dwindling?

Other than top 4 or 5, there always seems like empty seats at many games.

High ticket prices, shit or expensive food/beer, all seater, sterile atmosphere, no Craic, stewards and cameras in faces etc


Outside the tele world, Is the premier losing it's pull?

Maybe they are scared of the OGS factor

Could anyone clarify if all premier clubs away followings are dwindling?

Other than top 4 or 5, there always seems like empty seats at many games.

High ticket prices, shit or expensive food/beer, all seater, sterile atmosphere, no Craic, stewards and cameras in faces etc


Outside the tele world, Is the premier losing it's pull?

Never really taken too much notice of the PL until this season, but it seems that the TV companies and league itself are concerned about dwindling away support. Not just numbers, but the away support is not always visible on TV.

Bring back the traditional 'away end'!

Live games online is killing the away support....Why go to all the fuss and expense when you can watch in your local or laptop.

Live games online is killing the away support....Why go to all the fuss and expense when you can watch in your local or laptop.

Its much better actually going to the game

It is midweek, Annis. To be fair to them, they are still bringing 2k plus. They have had a couple of very frustrating seasons. Last time Birmingham were down here they brought about 4 or 500. Perhaps we're not everybody's most attractive away venue! Still a big club, still decent away midweek support.

More generally, it seems that the PL are worried about away support overall.

Its less than 2hrs by car and many of their fans live this side of Brum, They get 35,000 home crowds, a massive fan base, first visit to us in 40 plus years, they dont know what bad times are, being in the lower leagues are bad times. We went to Stoke in midweek just before Xmas, we took nearly 2,100 fans and weve been there 8 times in recent years. Were not that expensive, Also No restrictions at all.

they aint so big no more annis.years of under investment and under achievement has taken it,s toll .big fan base though.mainly north brum ,west mids and staffs.it,s a fact they are the least successful club in brum this century .hope you smash em silly kro

It is midweek, Annis. To be fair to them, they are still bringing 2k plus. They have had a couple of very frustrating seasons. Last time Birmingham were down here they brought about 4 or 500. Perhaps we're not everybody's most attractive away venue! Still a big club, still decent away midweek support.

More generally, it seems that the PL are worried about away support overall.

why do u say that? has something been said? i don't know how much u know, but are the premier league thinking about doing something about it?

It is midweek, Annis. To be fair to them, they are still bringing 2k plus. They have had a couple of very frustrating seasons. Last time Birmingham were down here they brought about 4 or 500. Perhaps we're not everybody's most attractive away venue! Still a big club, still decent away midweek support.

More generally, it seems that the PL are worried about away support overall.

Its less than 2hrs by car and many of their fans live this side of Brum, They get 35,000 home crowds, a massive fan base, first visit to us in 40 plus years, they dont know what bad times are, being in the lower leagues are bad times. We went to Stoke in midweek just before Xmas, we took nearly 2,100 fans and weve been there 8 times in recent years. Were not that expensive, Also No restrictions at all.

they aint so big no more annis.years of under investment and under achievement has taken it,s toll .big fan base though.mainly north brum ,west mids and staffs.it,s a fact they are the least successful club in brum this century .hope you smash em silly kro

Hope you don't think that I was having a go at the Blues' support there, Jeff. It was just to illustrate a point.If I was a Brummie, it would be St Andrews for me. See that you came back from 3-1 down yesterday, first Burkie, and a late, late one to level. KRO!

It is midweek, Annis. To be fair to them, they are still bringing 2k plus. They have had a couple of very frustrating seasons. Last time Birmingham were down here they brought about 4 or 500. Perhaps we're not everybody's most attractive away venue! Still a big club, still decent away midweek support.

More generally, it seems that the PL are worried about away support overall.

Its less than 2hrs by car and many of their fans live this side of Brum, They get 35,000 home crowds, a massive fan base, first visit to us in 40 plus years, they dont know what bad times are, being in the lower leagues are bad times. We went to Stoke in midweek just before Xmas, we took nearly 2,100 fans and weve been there 8 times in recent years. Were not that expensive, Also No restrictions at all.

they aint so big no more annis.years of under investment and under achievement has taken it,s toll .big fan base though.mainly north brum ,west mids and staffs.it,s a fact they are the least successful club in brum this century .hope you smash em silly kro

Hope you don't think that I was having a go at the Blues' support there, Jeff. It was just to illustrate a point.If I was a Brummie, it would be St Andrews for me. See that you came back from 3-1 down yesterday, first Burkie, and a late, late one to level. KRO!

no mate i knew you wasnt.they bigger than us,defo.they havnt the unstable nature of our club though.yes we did well y,day in the end.aint been a lot this season.money and also i go into a jail in a vol capacity monday afternoons so iv been working sats to get rid of mondays work.i wentt o the game you mentioned.had a great day in canton and a good night after with nukes and the boys.met annis and co.superb.my mate had a spare for wba today so i went to game.enjoyed it.i think you can stay up.got to say i love ollies interviews .it,s the lancashire accent .think if you stay up he can push you on.already easier on the eye.next week will be brilliant for a nuetral to watch

It is midweek, Annis. To be fair to them, they are still bringing 2k plus. They have had a couple of very frustrating seasons. Last time Birmingham were down here they brought about 4 or 500. Perhaps we're not everybody's most attractive away venue! Still a big club, still decent away midweek support.

More generally, it seems that the PL are worried about away support overall.

why do u say that? has something been said? i don't know how much u know, but are the premier league thinking about doing something about it?

No inside info, sorry! Just comments that I have been reading in football magazines and newspapers over the last year or two. Seems to be a recurring theme. There are concerns about the loss of atmosphere when there are not many away fans. There have been concerns about the cost of away tickets. Remember Man City fans having to pay £62 at the Emirates last season, and a boycott. I think that this scheme where we twin with another club, and reduce costs for agreed away games comes from that. We only paid £25.50 at Arsenal, and £32 at Liverpool recently. Not 100% sure, but it comes up often enough to show that the PL and TV companies are a bit concerned.

Its a sign of the times that a modern football fan simply given a choice of travelling down the m5 a few hours or sat in the house or pub using that £100 that it costs on away days they will opt to spend half the cash in the pub and have an indian after and be in bed by midnight ready for work the following morning its only the ever present like us who do every match daft or loyal call it what u want but im fortunate i have no work commitments or kids but dress it up whatever way u want tv has ruined football for the fans it just makes clubs and chairman richer that goes on better players then increased season ticket prices to pay for wages etc

That's not too bad - they are playing shite football and probably have had enough of paying over the top premiership prices.
Im sure if we stay in the premiership a few years then our away support will dwindle off as well.

It is midweek, Annis. To be fair to them, they are still bringing 2k plus. They have had a couple of very frustrating seasons. Last time Birmingham were down here they brought about 4 or 500. Perhaps we're not everybody's most attractive away venue! Still a big club, still decent away midweek support.

More generally, it seems that the PL are worried about away support overall.

Its less than 2hrs by car and many of their fans live this side of Brum, They get 35,000 home crowds, a massive fan base, first visit to us in 40 plus years, they dont know what bad times are, being in the lower leagues are bad times. We went to Stoke in midweek just before Xmas, we took nearly 2,100 fans and weve been there 8 times in recent years. Were not that expensive, Also No restrictions at all.

they aint so big no more annis.years of under investment and under achievement has taken it,s toll .big fan base though.mainly north brum ,west mids and staffs.it,s a fact they are the least successful club in brum this century .hope you smash em silly kro

I bet your loving this Jeff and I dont blame you