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Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:20 pm

Ok .... Nice bloke. :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole:

But he's not very good is he ..... Seems to be a board and crowd pleaser.

Truth is " nice blokes " hardly manage well football clubs.

I remember the words of a manager to a member of management staff starting after being a player for the same club , it went like this

" &££&@ listen your now on the other side , the first thing to remember is football players are all Cunts never forget that "

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:27 pm

He let whitts take the blame for his awful selections and formation yesterday ie Mutch on the wing

Whitts was poor, as were most in the 1st half, but he should have left it until half time it was only 7 minutes, but he let whitts take the flak instead of him getting the boos at ht.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:29 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:He let whitts take the blame for his awful selections and formation yesterday ie Mutch on the wing

Whitts was poor, as were most in the 1st half, but he should have left it until half time it was only 7 minutes, but he let whitts take the flak instead of him getting the boos at ht.


Interesting Polo.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:30 pm

Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He let whitts take the blame for his awful selections and formation yesterday ie Mutch on the wing

Whitts was poor, as were most in the 1st half, but he should have left it until half time it was only 7 minutes, but he let whitts take the flak instead of him getting the boos at ht.


Interesting Polo.



Said the crowd needed a lift but that to me was him bowing down to the boo boys

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:33 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He let whitts take the blame for his awful selections and formation yesterday ie Mutch on the wing

Whitts was poor, as were most in the 1st half, but he should have left it until half time it was only 7 minutes, but he let whitts take the flak instead of him getting the boos at ht.


Interesting Polo.



Said the crowd needed a lift but that to me was him bowing down to the boo boys


Sounds like. Saving face and all that.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:33 pm

Come on Polo, in all seriousness you wanted a pro active manager. Well, what Ole did was that but because it was Whitts you're going off on one. Any other player you would have praised Ole for it

Not excusing some of the fans reaction because it was out of order but it was 100% the right decision.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:34 pm

Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He let whitts take the blame for his awful selections and formation yesterday ie Mutch on the wing

Whitts was poor, as were most in the 1st half, but he should have left it until half time it was only 7 minutes, but he let whitts take the flak instead of him getting the boos at ht.


Interesting Polo.



Said the crowd needed a lift but that to me was him bowing down to the boo boys


Sounds like. Saving face and all that.

The cynic in me says he did deflect the heat somewhat

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:35 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Come on Polo, in all seriousness you wanted a pro active manager. Well, what Ole did was that but because it was Whitts you're going off on one. Any other player you would have praised Ole for it

Not excusing some of the fans reaction because it was out of order but it was 100% the right decision.

Right decision. Wrong time. :thumbup:

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:36 pm

He's got balls and will admit that when we're shit we're shit, fearless going forward to

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:37 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He let whitts take the blame for his awful selections and formation yesterday ie Mutch on the wing

Whitts was poor, as were most in the 1st half, but he should have left it until half time it was only 7 minutes, but he let whitts take the flak instead of him getting the boos at ht.


Interesting Polo.



Said the crowd needed a lift but that to me was him bowing down to the boo boys


Sounds like. Saving face and all that.

The cynic in me says he did deflect the heat somewhat


Sounds like .... Gets away with it though as it worked, out of interest did you equalise first or second half ?

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:37 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Come on Polo, in all seriousness you wanted a pro active manager. Well, what Ole did was that but because it was Whitts you're going off on one. Any other player you would have praised Ole for it

Not excusing some of the fans reaction because it was out of order but it was 100% the right decision.

Right decision. Wrong time. :thumbup:

I agree, 10 mins too late.

Zaha lifted the crowd and they were on Whitts' back, another misplaced pass and it would have been even worse

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:40 pm

Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He let whitts take the blame for his awful selections and formation yesterday ie Mutch on the wing

Whitts was poor, as were most in the 1st half, but he should have left it until half time it was only 7 minutes, but he let whitts take the flak instead of him getting the boos at ht.


Interesting Polo.



Said the crowd needed a lift but that to me was him bowing down to the boo boys


Sounds like. Saving face and all that.

The cynic in me says he did deflect the heat somewhat


Sounds like .... Gets away with it though as it worked, out of interest did you equalise first or second half ?


2nd half two goals in 2 minutes.

We had a good 10/15 minute spell but apart from that we were awful and but for poor finishing Marshall heroics it could have been a heavy defeat.

Don't let the Rose tinters on here tell you any different.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:41 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Come on Polo, in all seriousness you wanted a pro active manager. Well, what Ole did was that but because it was Whitts you're going off on one. Any other player you would have praised Ole for it

Not excusing some of the fans reaction because it was out of order but it was 100% the right decision.

Right decision. Wrong time. :thumbup:


Whitts shouldn't have started anyway shouldn't have even been on the bench.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:41 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Come on Polo, in all seriousness you wanted a pro active manager. Well, what Ole did was that but because it was Whitts you're going off on one. Any other player you would have praised Ole for it

Not excusing some of the fans reaction because it was out of order but it was 100% the right decision.

Right decision. Wrong time. :thumbup:

I agree, 10 mins too late.

Zaha lifted the crowd and they were on Whitts' back, another misplaced pass and it would have been even worse

Bowing to you boo boys then. As I said.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:42 pm

phildavies wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Come on Polo, in all seriousness you wanted a pro active manager. Well, what Ole did was that but because it was Whitts you're going off on one. Any other player you would have praised Ole for it

Not excusing some of the fans reaction because it was out of order but it was 100% the right decision.

Right decision. Wrong time. :thumbup:


Whitts shouldn't have started anyway shouldn't have even been on the bench.

Why not he was one of our better performers Tuesday.

Shit yesterday but earned his place after Tuesdays performance where he was central to our possession play.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:44 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Come on Polo, in all seriousness you wanted a pro active manager. Well, what Ole did was that but because it was Whitts you're going off on one. Any other player you would have praised Ole for it

Not excusing some of the fans reaction because it was out of order but it was 100% the right decision.

Right decision. Wrong time. :thumbup:

I agree, 10 mins too late.

Zaha lifted the crowd and they were on Whitts' back, another misplaced pass and it would have been even worse

Bowing to you boo boys then. As I said.

If we could see he needed replacing, then im sure Ole did to. Irrelevant when it was done.

I dont boo my tem either, never have, never will.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:46 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He let whitts take the blame for his awful selections and formation yesterday ie Mutch on the wing

Whitts was poor, as were most in the 1st half, but he should have left it until half time it was only 7 minutes, but he let whitts take the flak instead of him getting the boos at ht.


Interesting Polo.



Said the crowd needed a lift but that to me was him bowing down to the boo boys


Sounds like. Saving face and all that.

The cynic in me says he did deflect the heat somewhat


Sounds like .... Gets away with it though as it worked, out of interest did you equalise first or second half ?


2nd half two goals in 2 minutes.

We had a good 10/15 minute spell but apart from that we were awful and but for poor finishing Marshall heroics it could have been a heavy defeat.

Don't let the Rose tinters on here tell you any different.


Not really great management then ..... Switch would have been better half time. Opposite Manager knew what he was facing second half tactically.

Crowd booing ( out of order in my book ) and Your man made the change to please the baying crowd and look better to his bosses and pleasing the paying clients.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:47 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Come on Polo, in all seriousness you wanted a pro active manager. Well, what Ole did was that but because it was Whitts you're going off on one. Any other player you would have praised Ole for it

Not excusing some of the fans reaction because it was out of order but it was 100% the right decision.

Right decision. Wrong time. :thumbup:

I agree, 10 mins too late.

Zaha lifted the crowd and they were on Whitts' back, another misplaced pass and it would have been even worse

Bowing to you boo boys then. As I said.

If we could see he needed replacing, then im sure Ole did to. Irrelevant when it was done.

I dont boo my tem either, never have, never will.


Be the newbie plastics booing mate I'm sure . Awful behaviour towards a player who's been a fantastic servant to your club , but they wouldn't know that as they weren't there then.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:48 pm

Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He let whitts take the blame for his awful selections and formation yesterday ie Mutch on the wing

Whitts was poor, as were most in the 1st half, but he should have left it until half time it was only 7 minutes, but he let whitts take the flak instead of him getting the boos at ht.


Interesting Polo.



Said the crowd needed a lift but that to me was him bowing down to the boo boys


Sounds like. Saving face and all that.

The cynic in me says he did deflect the heat somewhat


Sounds like .... Gets away with it though as it worked, out of interest did you equalise first or second half ?


2nd half two goals in 2 minutes.

We had a good 10/15 minute spell but apart from that we were awful and but for poor finishing Marshall heroics it could have been a heavy defeat.

Don't let the Rose tinters on here tell you any different.


Not really great management then ..... Switch would have been better half time. Opposite Manager knew what he was facing second half tactically.

Crowd booing ( out of order in my book ) and Your man made the change to please the baying crowd and look better to his bosses and pleasing the paying clients.

If you had seen how poor he was you would have taken him off 10 mins earlier Daya.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:50 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Come on Polo, in all seriousness you wanted a pro active manager. Well, what Ole did was that but because it was Whitts you're going off on one. Any other player you would have praised Ole for it

Not excusing some of the fans reaction because it was out of order but it was 100% the right decision.

Right decision. Wrong time. :thumbup:

I agree, 10 mins too late.

Zaha lifted the crowd and they were on Whitts' back, another misplaced pass and it would have been even worse

Bowing to you boo boys then. As I said.

If we could see he needed replacing, then im sure Ole did to. Irrelevant when it was done.

I dont boo my tem either, never have, never will.


Well that's where we disagree with just a few a few minutes to half time with the boo boys on a players back he could have held it out until HT then taken him off in private.

Instead choosing to ruin what little confidence a player had left by making him take the walk of shame.

He has a duty to his players and bowing down to the boo boys he won't have done himself any favours long term.

Would he replace Bellers 1st half if he was having a mare? No chance.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:50 pm

Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He let whitts take the blame for his awful selections and formation yesterday ie Mutch on the wing

Whitts was poor, as were most in the 1st half, but he should have left it until half time it was only 7 minutes, but he let whitts take the flak instead of him getting the boos at ht.


Interesting Polo.



Said the crowd needed a lift but that to me was him bowing down to the boo boys


Sounds like. Saving face and all that.

The cynic in me says he did deflect the heat somewhat


Sounds like .... Gets away with it though as it worked, out of interest did you equalise first or second half ?


2nd half two goals in 2 minutes.

We had a good 10/15 minute spell but apart from that we were awful and but for poor finishing Marshall heroics it could have been a heavy defeat.

Don't let the Rose tinters on here tell you any different.


Not really great management then ..... Switch would have been better half time. Opposite Manager knew what he was facing second half tactically.

Crowd booing ( out of order in my book ) and Your man made the change to please the baying crowd and look better to his bosses and pleasing the paying clients.



the way i look at it steve is in the position our teams are in you need players to knuckle down and tackle and run their hearts out.
who would you take into a physical must win encounter whitts or nolan. Im afraid we have to sacrifice a bit of creativity for some hard work up and down the pitch and whitts dosent bring that.
the top teams allow us to play which gives whitts time but the teams we are facing over the next month will not give us the luxury of time as they will press us all over the pitch

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:51 pm

With all the new faces in the squad and with some of them not even 100% when it comes to match training, it is a very hard call choosing the best starting 11. Also changing too much from what players are used to won't help the performance short term. I am glad Ole reacts that quickly when something needs to be done. Let Whitts cry for himself for 30 minutes then I am sure he is alright and has forgotten all about it.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:52 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
phildavies wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Come on Polo, in all seriousness you wanted a pro active manager. Well, what Ole did was that but because it was Whitts you're going off on one. Any other player you would have praised Ole for it

Not excusing some of the fans reaction because it was out of order but it was 100% the right decision.

Right decision. Wrong time. :thumbup:


Whitts shouldn't have started anyway shouldn't have even been on the bench.

Why not he was one of our better performers Tuesday.

Shit yesterday but earned his place after Tuesdays performance where he was central to our possession play.


He been terrible most of the season he should neve be allowed to take a corner or free kick again as the e been shit for ages. Plus we have many players in his position who are better than him IMO. If he starts next week then were Fucked. Plus we had no left winger yesterday until Zaha came on and changed the game.

My team for Swansea

Marshall

Fabio(if fit)
Caulker
Seville guy who's name has escaped me :lol:
John

Noone
Medel
Mutch
Zaha

Bellers

Jones

Subs,Lewis,McNaughton,gunner,Eikrem,Kim, Daeheli, Campbell

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:53 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Come on Polo, in all seriousness you wanted a pro active manager. Well, what Ole did was that but because it was Whitts you're going off on one. Any other player you would have praised Ole for it

Not excusing some of the fans reaction because it was out of order but it was 100% the right decision.

Right decision. Wrong time. :thumbup:

I agree, 10 mins too late.

Zaha lifted the crowd and they were on Whitts' back, another misplaced pass and it would have been even worse

Bowing to you boo boys then. As I said.

If we could see he needed replacing, then im sure Ole did to. Irrelevant when it was done.

I dont boo my tem either, never have, never will.


Well that's where we disagree with just a few a few minutes to half time with the boo boys on a players back he could have held it out until HT then taken him off in private.

Instead choosing to ruin what little confidence a player had left by making him take the walk of shame.

He has a duty to his players and bowing down to the boo boys he won't have done himself any favours long term.

Would he replace Bellers 1st half if he was having a mare? No chance.

Would you say the same about Gestede?

Do you know Whitts?

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:53 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He let whitts take the blame for his awful selections and formation yesterday ie Mutch on the wing

Whitts was poor, as were most in the 1st half, but he should have left it until half time it was only 7 minutes, but he let whitts take the flak instead of him getting the boos at ht.


Interesting Polo.



Said the crowd needed a lift but that to me was him bowing down to the boo boys


Sounds like. Saving face and all that.

The cynic in me says he did deflect the heat somewhat


Sounds like .... Gets away with it though as it worked, out of interest did you equalise first or second half ?


2nd half two goals in 2 minutes.

We had a good 10/15 minute spell but apart from that we were awful and but for poor finishing Marshall heroics it could have been a heavy defeat.

Don't let the Rose tinters on here tell you any different.


Not really great management then ..... Switch would have been better half time. Opposite Manager knew what he was facing second half tactically.

Crowd booing ( out of order in my book ) and Your man made the change to please the baying crowd and look better to his bosses and pleasing the paying clients.

If you had seen how poor he was you would have taken him off 10 mins earlier Daya.


Wasn't there so can't judge, take your word or it, but how was the reason he so bad then I'm more interested in, from what I heard he had a good game Tuesday .

Always been a technical quality player who can go missing in games mind. Personally never rated him as a premiership player probably why his career been mainly in the Championship and when having purple patches not stimulating interest from Premiership Clubs .....that's probably what Villa saw too when they let him go cheaply.

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:53 pm

Nice guy managers.............Arsene Wenger? Pepe Guardiola?

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:58 pm

steve davies wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Daya wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:He let whitts take the blame for his awful selections and formation yesterday ie Mutch on the wing

Whitts was poor, as were most in the 1st half, but he should have left it until half time it was only 7 minutes, but he let whitts take the flak instead of him getting the boos at ht.


Interesting Polo.



Said the crowd needed a lift but that to me was him bowing down to the boo boys


Sounds like. Saving face and all that.

The cynic in me says he did deflect the heat somewhat


Sounds like .... Gets away with it though as it worked, out of interest did you equalise first or second half ?


2nd half two goals in 2 minutes.

We had a good 10/15 minute spell but apart from that we were awful and but for poor finishing Marshall heroics it could have been a heavy defeat.

Don't let the Rose tinters on here tell you any different.


Not really great management then ..... Switch would have been better half time. Opposite Manager knew what he was facing second half tactically.

Crowd booing ( out of order in my book ) and Your man made the change to please the baying crowd and look better to his bosses and pleasing the paying clients.



the way i look at it steve is in the position our teams are in you need players to knuckle down and tackle and run their hearts out.
who would you take into a physical must win encounter whitts or nolan. Im afraid we have to sacrifice a bit of creativity for some hard work up and down the pitch and whitts dosent bring that.
the top teams allow us to play which gives whitts time but the teams we are facing over the next month will not give us the luxury of time as they will press us all over the pitch


Agree mate.... Sounds like he shouldn't have been selected in the first place .

Look at our Matty Taylor .... Work rate and desire fantastic , hence often gets selected over the likes of Diame.

Big Sam knows his stuff !

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:58 pm

Steve, he didnt make one pass that made its target. He didnt close down and you need that in a relegation scrap. His speed of thought in the transition between defence and attack was too slow, His setpieces were terrible and he looked lost and totally out of confidence. I dont rate him but after a few minutes i really felt sorry for him. In hindsight I dont think Ole should have started him

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:59 pm

Blue_Always wrote:Nice guy managers.............Arsene Wenger? Pepe Guardiola?


Wenger moans more than than Adam Browns wife getting humped !

Re: Ole This and Ole That ?

Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:02 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Steve, he didnt make one pass that made its target. He didnt close down and you need that in a relegation scrap. His speed of thought in the transition between defence and attack was too slow, His setpieces were terrible and he looked lost and totally out of confidence. I dont rate him but after a few minutes i really felt sorry for him. In hindsight I dont think Ole should have started him


Hi mate .... Sounds like poor starting team selection to me. Agree what you saying about the player and relegation scraps too.

You will notice Matty Taylor in our side, not the greatest but fights to the death and a work rate like no other.