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would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:08 am

he is certainly dragging palace back from the brink.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:29 am

darboy wrote:he is certainly dragging palace back from the brink.

Yes, Ole is a massive gamble who thinks he can attack his way out of a relegation dogfight.(has it ever happened?) We aren't quite in that dogfight, but if we don't get a few victories in the next 3 games, then we are in a dog fight with the wrong manager. But Vincent knows best because he's a billionaire and billionaires aren't stupid. ;)

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:38 am

well the way he has turned around Palace, I think we missed out tbh.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:43 am

we were too late so doesnt matter. More than happy with Ole. He had tough games to start with but there have been alot of positive. Just need a win under our belt

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:49 am

CjBluebird17 wrote:we were too late so doesnt matter. More than happy with Ole. He had tough games to start with but there have been alot of positive. Just need a win under our belt

I agree Ole's campaign starts against Norwich, no excuses 3 points or the pressure builds.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:52 am

darboy wrote:he is certainly dragging palace back from the brink.


I'd rather see the likes of Zaha, Noone, Fabio, Daeli etc playing good football than Malky and Pulis's anti football. For me is the squad continue to improve whether we stay up or go down, if Tan can afford it.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:56 am

Genuinely Ashamed of some of our supporters. :old:

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:01 am

Blue_Always wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:we were too late so doesnt matter. More than happy with Ole. He had tough games to start with but there have been alot of positive. Just need a win under our belt

I agree Ole's campaign starts against Norwich, no excuses 3 points or the pressure builds.


Agree with this.It was the same for us last night.If possible try not to get dis-heartened when you get beaten by the Man U's of this world.It's the Norwich's and Fulhams you need to be getting points from and anything else is a bonus.Massive game against the Canaries for you now.The pressure is on Ole and the squad and your next 3 games will define your season i think.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:08 am

Get a grip of yourselves eh!!

Palace we rejuvenated and had a decent few results against beatable teams.

Arsenal away Man City Away United Away and West Ham Home.


All f*cking Beatable right enough. :lol:


f**k Long Ball Pulis,Have faith in the Gunnar .... :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:23 am

6 bysedd wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:we were too late so doesnt matter. More than happy with Ole. He had tough games to start with but there have been alot of positive. Just need a win under our belt

I agree Ole's campaign starts against Norwich, no excuses 3 points or the pressure builds.


Agree with this.It was the same for us last night.If possible try not to get dis-heartened when you get beaten by the Man U's of this world.It's the Norwich's and Fulhams you need to be getting points from and anything else is a bonus.Massive game against the Canaries for you now.The pressure is on Ole and the squad and your next 3 games will define your season i think.


Comes to something when a jack talks the most sense on a thread. We have played arsenal man city and man Utd away and have been well in the games for long periods. Conceded an early goal against both man city and man utd but kept at it all through the game. Norwich is massive, we could put 9 or more points on the board in the next 4 games. Keep te faith because the players need us behind them 100%

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:23 am

We actually looked quite good last night and attempted to attack more than we would have previously.

Nobody expected anything from last night lets be fair, and the fact that Man Utd scored from 2 1/2 chances is credit to us I think.

Im still optimistic as I think we are now playing football. Whitts playing too deep but I wouldnt be surprised if either him or Gary are rested for the home game this week against Norwich. Dont need 2 players in that deep role and I thought Gary pressed v well last night.

Id take Whitts out for Sat and put another striker to partner Fraz. Get the Kenwyn up top with him and lets see the difference. Zaha too hopefully out wide and I think were onto something

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:27 am

darboy wrote:he is certainly dragging palace back from the brink.

:lol: :lol: :lol: what a a JOKER, lets all get behind OUR manager,why wonder IF we may have been better off with Pulis,Give Ole chance FFS he has just bought a few players that havent played yet,'WHAT IF' :dontknow:

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:36 am

January was always going to be a nightmare, fixtures wise, with only West Ham being the "easier" game, which we blew unfortunately. Ole has got to pull something out of the hat in the next 2 months, which I think is doable and I'm looking forward to some exciting games against teams down around us. :ayatollah:

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:21 am

In Oles 3 games in charge we have had to go away to City and United give the guy a break.

West Ham we battered them 2nd half just couldnt get the break.

We have given a decent account of ourselves in all 3 games so hopefully it will all start to click into gear starting Saturday.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:59 am

I still think Palace will go down, and I still think we will stay up. Palace just do not have the quality to keep grinding out 1 nil wins

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:05 am

Blue_Always wrote:
darboy wrote:he is certainly dragging palace back from the brink.

Yes, Ole is a massive gamble who thinks he can attack his way out of a relegation dogfight.(has it ever happened?) We aren't quite in that dogfight, but if we don't get a few victories in the next 3 games, then we are in a dog fight with the wrong manager. But Vincent knows best because he's a billionaire and billionaires aren't stupid. ;)


What a stupid post, what has this thread got to do with VT, one thing he has done and that is to provide his managers with a huge amount of money in the transfer windows something that pulis is not getting and not happy about at palace. When you say ole is going to attack our way out of trouble well that is right, that's what we need to do, i presume you understand that if we don't score goals we don't win games and under malky we were the lowest scorers in the premiership. do we have the right manager??? that will become very clear in the next month or so, the same applies to pulis at palace.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:06 am

Pulis likes 2 big lads up front and some steel in midfield. Luckily for him Palace already had those type of players. Chamakh and Jerome up front and Dicacoi (sp) and Jedinak in midfield. I personally think Pulis would have found it difficult if he'd come here, using the players he would have had at his disposal and adapting them to his style of play.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:14 am

Yes 100%, he will save Palace as Poyet will save Sunderland :ayatollah: :old: :ayatollah:

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:15 am

Palace's squad is crap. Ours is miles better. It will even itself out shortly.

Like when they get smashed against Arsenal this weekend and we beat Norwich :ayatollah:

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:23 am

No. We've made a great appointment in Ole, the football is far better and I believe will be far more effective than what we've been used to. It will also improve the atmosphere at the CCS too, for the first time in what seems ages we are starting to play attacking football.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:33 am

Our defence and organisation has gone to shit lately, im not saying we havent been playin more attacking football but at what cost? Course pulis could keep us up easily but tan wanted his man so we were never gonna get pulis, a man with a proven track record in the prem and experienced in relegation battles. Ole was a utd player - does he even know what relegation battle is? Im behind him, im hoping we can attack our way out of this hole, but some people seem to think he is some sort of managerial holy grail - why? Lets hope he can start getting some points on the board. The jury still out for me sorry.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:00 am

Mel86 wrote:Our defence and organisation has gone to shit lately, im not saying we havent been playin more attacking football but at what cost? Course pulis could keep us up easily but tan wanted his man so we were never gonna get pulis, a man with a proven track record in the prem and experienced in relegation battles. Ole was a utd player - does he even know what relegation battle is? Im behind him, im hoping we can attack our way out of this hole, but some people seem to think he is some sort of managerial holy grail - why? Lets hope he can start getting some points on the board. The jury still out for me sorry.

The defence wasn't that solid though, we were conceding goals and we weren't scoring either.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:01 am

GarethBrad wrote:
Mel86 wrote:Our defence and organisation has gone to shit lately, im not saying we havent been playin more attacking football but at what cost? Course pulis could keep us up easily but tan wanted his man so we were never gonna get pulis, a man with a proven track record in the prem and experienced in relegation battles. Ole was a utd player - does he even know what relegation battle is? Im behind him, im hoping we can attack our way out of this hole, but some people seem to think he is some sort of managerial holy grail - why? Lets hope he can start getting some points on the board. The jury still out for me sorry.

The defence wasn't that solid though, we were conceding goals and we weren't scoring either.

Correct. We had the second worst defensive record when Malky was sacked.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:15 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
GarethBrad wrote:
Mel86 wrote:Our defence and organisation has gone to shit lately, im not saying we havent been playin more attacking football but at what cost? Course pulis could keep us up easily but tan wanted his man so we were never gonna get pulis, a man with a proven track record in the prem and experienced in relegation battles. Ole was a utd player - does he even know what relegation battle is? Im behind him, im hoping we can attack our way out of this hole, but some people seem to think he is some sort of managerial holy grail - why? Lets hope he can start getting some points on the board. The jury still out for me sorry.

The defence wasn't that solid though, we were conceding goals and we weren't scoring either.

Correct. We had the second worst defensive record when Malky was sacked.


Where does this myth come from about how good our defence was under malky???? we were conceding over two goals a game.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:29 am

Malky conceded on average 1.55 per game and got the tin tack before we had to face Arsenal, City and United away.

Marshall was superhuman in many of the games we managed to get a clean sheet under Malky and were it not for him the average would be more like 2.55

After our decent run in August / September and after the Fulham game (Arguably our best PL performance under Malky) we managed to score only 9 times in 12 games under Malky, failing to score in 6 of them.

In our last 8 games under Malky we managed to score in just 3 of them, and took just 5 points out of a possible 24.

We failed to score in 4 consecutive away games to Villa, Norwich, Stoke and Palace. In fact we barely mustered a chance.

If you add the West Ham, Hull and Fulham games to those away games under Malky we scored just 3 goals in 7 away games against lower half teams, and took just 6 points out of 21. Not good enough and it will bite us on the bum I think as we have now been left in a position whereby we pretty much have to win all our remaining home games not including Liverpool and Chelsea.

We were in free fall and heading for relegation under Malky, that is undeniable.

Goaless draws and fistpumps would have not kept us up I am afraid.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:39 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:Malky conceded on average 1.55 per game and got the tin tack before we had to face Arsenal, City and United away.

Marshall was superhuman in many of the games we managed to get a clean sheet under Malky and were it not for him the average would be more like 2.55

After our decent run in August / September and after the Fulham game (Arguably our best PL performance under Malky) we managed to score only 9 times in 12 games under Malky, failing to score in 6 of them.

In our last 8 games under Malky we managed to score in just 3 of them, and took just 5 points out of a possible 24.

We failed to score in 4 consecutive away games to Villa, Norwich, Stoke and Palace. In fact we barely mustered a chance.

If you add the West Ham, Hull and Fulham games to those away games under Malky we scored just 3 goals in 7 away games against lower half teams, and took just 6 points out of 21. Not good enough and it will bite us on the bum I think as we have now been left in a position whereby we pretty much have to win all our remaining home games not including Liverpool and Chelsea.

We were in free fall and heading for relegation under Malky, that is undeniable.

Goaless draws and fistpumps would have not kept us up I am afraid.


But if you are to believe some on here if it wasn't for Tans meddling we would have won most of them games :roll: :lol:

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:05 pm

Jinks wrote:But if you are to believe some on here if it wasn't for Tans meddling we would have won most of them games :roll: :lol:


i dont think Tan would have choosen to pick Don Cowie ahead of Noone myself :lol:

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:11 pm

Blue_Always wrote:
darboy wrote:he is certainly dragging palace back from the brink.

Yes, Ole is a massive gamble who thinks he can attack his way out of a relegation dogfight.(has it ever happened?) We aren't quite in that dogfight, but if we don't get a few victories in the next 3 games, then we are in a dog fight with the wrong manager. But Vincent knows best because he's a billionaire and billionaires aren't stupid. ;)

This.

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:12 pm

Einstein wrote:
darboy wrote:he is certainly dragging palace back from the brink.


I'd rather see the likes of Zaha, Noone, Fabio, Daeli etc playing good football than Malky and Pulis's anti football. For me is the squad continue to improve whether we stay up or go down, if Tan can afford it.

So you'd rather we go down playing good football than stay up playing boring football, good thinking. :thumbright:

Re: would we have been better off with Pulis?

Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:59 pm

cityone wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
darboy wrote:he is certainly dragging palace back from the brink.

Yes, Ole is a massive gamble who thinks he can attack his way out of a relegation dogfight.(has it ever happened?) We aren't quite in that dogfight, but if we don't get a few victories in the next 3 games, then we are in a dog fight with the wrong manager. But Vincent knows best because he's a billionaire and billionaires aren't stupid. ;)


What a stupid post, what has this thread got to do with VT, one thing he has done and that is to provide his managers with a huge amount of money in the transfer windows something that pulis is not getting and not happy about at palace. When you say ole is going to attack our way out of trouble well that is right, that's what we need to do, i presume you understand that if we don't score goals we don't win games and under malky we were the lowest scorers in the premiership. do we have the right manager??? that will become very clear in the next month or so, the same applies to pulis at palace.

Vincent signed Ole, Vincent drove out a sucessful Manager. That's all Vincent has to do with this.