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Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:53 pm

The former Cardiff boss is offering the Malaysian advice on how to run the Premier League club, despite being sacked by him in 2011


Monday 27th Jan 2014.

Dave Jones returns to Cardiff City as an advisor to owner Vincent Tan -

The former Cardiff boss is offering the Malaysian advice on how to run the Premier League club, despite being sacked by him in 2011

Dave Jones has made a dramatic return to Cardiff - nearly three years after being sacked by the club.

Mirror Sport can reveal that former Cardiff boss Jones has become close to owner Vincent Tan and has been offering advice on running the club.

It was Tan who actually sacked Jones in May 2011 but it is now claimed that he was in favour of keeping him and the rest of the board decided to axe him.

Jones endorsed current boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer as the man to succeed Malky Mackay and his friendship with Tan has helped him make decisions on the running of the club.

Jones, 57, had six years at Cardiff but could not get them into the Premier League and when he left fans had mixed views about his tenure.

So it is a surprise to see Jones back and involved even if it is in an informal capacity.

Jones has also been to stay with Tan and they have developed a strong friendship and working relationship.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ty-3068301?

How True Is DJ's input to the Club ???


Tuesday 28th Jan 2014
Media Wales Reports

Dave Jones returns to Cardiff City as adviser to Vincent Tan - reports

The club's former boss, who was sacked in May 2011, is reportedly acting in an advisory capacity to the club's owner


Cardiff City's former manager Dave Jones has returned to the club to act as an adviser to owner Vincent Tan, according to reports.

Jones, 57, was linked with a second spell at the club during the heightening uncertainty about Malky Mackay's role, prior to his sacking at Christmas.

But while chairman Mehmet Dalman is believed to have talked Tan out of appointing Jones as Mackay's replacement, the Malaysian millionaire has grown close to the former Cardiff boss over recent weeks, and is now seeking advice from him in how to run the club, according to the Daily Mirror .

Jones was sacked in May 2011, shortly after Tan took over the Bluebirds - but it is now said the owner was in favour of keeping him, but was talked into sacking him by fellow board members.

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:55 pm

I find this hard to believe

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:55 pm

Was described as an exclusive by @johncrossmirror loooooool, absolute bull shit, it was common knowledge that DJ was an advisor for Tan but Dalman is the boss who calls the shots

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:57 pm

All it says is their friends and he offers advice,no official role at city.

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:58 pm

darran1927 wrote:I find this hard to believe


Your not the only one darran - i'm :? :?

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:03 pm

Christ Almighty!

What next? Ridsdale back as a financial consultant?

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:03 pm

He's Spartacus wrote:All it says is their friends and he offers advice,no official role at city.


Quite right, he has no official role at the club, tan gets in touch with dj if he wants advice / another opinion on football matters, very similar as when tan speaks to hammam, it's been going on for some time i thought it was common knowledge.

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:05 pm

Look at this way, the Fulham owner doesn't know anything about football here so appointed Curbishley etc and Wilkins to help him understand the game. Jones was an okay manager just incredibly shit in the media and stubborn with tactics

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:12 pm

PartyWithOle wrote:Was described as an exclusive by @johncrossmirror loooooool, absolute bull shit, it was common knowledge that DJ was an advisor for Tan but Dalman is the boss who calls the shots


Nope, Tan is the boss who calls the shots.. Dalman just gives them out.

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:15 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:Was described as an exclusive by @johncrossmirror loooooool, absolute bull shit, it was common knowledge that DJ was an advisor for Tan but Dalman is the boss who calls the shots


Nope, Tan is the boss who calls the shots.. Dalman just gives them out.

Tan calls the shots but Dalman's been given quite a bit of power lately

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:17 pm

Dalman has very little power. It is a dictatorship, Tan is the man in charge & what he says goes - the horrific rebrand is a prime example of this.

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:19 pm

cityone wrote:
He's Spartacus wrote:All it says is their friends and he offers advice,no official role at city.


Quite right, he has no official role at the club, tan gets in touch with dj if he wants advice / another opinion on football matters, very similar as when tan speaks to hammam, it's been going on for some time i thought it was common knowledge.


"Common Knowledge" it is about DJ,since he parted with Sheff Weds - "handshake" when MM was still here -

I'm confused is he back or just on the other end of a phone - guiding our owner :?:

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:21 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:Dalman has very little power. It is a dictatorship, Tan is the man in charge & what he says goes - the horrific rebrand is a prime example of this.

Dalman had came in the season the re-brand was put in place, Dalman seems like someone who would sit down with fans and understand our position. It seems Tan is being forgiving, we have seen the blue away shirt more times than we have expected.

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:28 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:
cityone wrote:
He's Spartacus wrote:All it says is their friends and he offers advice,no official role at city.


Quite right, he has no official role at the club, tan gets in touch with dj if he wants advice / another opinion on football matters, very similar as when tan speaks to hammam, it's been going on for some time i thought it was common knowledge.


"Common Knowledge" it is about DJ,since he parted with Sheff Weds - "handshake" when MM was still here -

I'm confused is he back or just on the other end of a phone - guiding our owner :?:


Well i was old about this over two months ago, as i said he has no official attachment to the club just as you say on the end of a phone. i would imagine something similar goes on at a lot of clubs.

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:56 pm

I hear this rumour started from Jones. Not a word from Tan. Sounds unlikely

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:08 am

PartyWithOle wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Dalman has very little power. It is a dictatorship, Tan is the man in charge & what he says goes - the horrific rebrand is a prime example of this.

Dalman had came in the season the re-brand was put in place, Dalman seems like someone who would sit down with fans and understand our position. It seems Tan is being forgiving, we have seen the blue away shirt more times than we have expected.


I totally agree with this. I think dalman has been having a word to tan about the whole red/blue thing and tan has responded by having us wear blue away. There has been several times that we could of worn yellow but we wore blue. Yes maybe red is going to be our home colour but id be happy for blue to be our away colour

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:34 am

When Tan was trying to Sack Malky, believe what you want, but DJ at one stage was asked to be City's Caretaker manager.

The truth will come out, maybe not under this Regime, but it will come out in the end.

Even if DJ is still helping Tan, Ole wont want him near his players. :thumbup:

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:50 am

No to him from me :o :o he is wanted again.

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:21 am

Great news! Dave Jones got us some right bargains and gems of players in Hudson, Marshall and Whittingham. He also brought entertaining players like Bothroyd here and was the first to bring Bellamy here back on loan. Bellamy was much better under Jones than under Malky too because he was allowed to play expansive football. I am a firm believer that if Jones was backed in the summer like Malky was we wouldn't even be in this mess.

Jones' main negative was he wasn't the most charismatic of people and therefore a good amount of fans didn't take to him. He wasn't a media man and he just said it how he felt straight up and honest and if you didn't like it then so be it. People often slate DJ but he did great here during times he had to offload and sell because of the clubs finances. He helped stabilise us in tough times and I will respect him for this always. Some of the players he bought were essential in us going up and were definitely some of the star performers. That is a fact no one can deny.

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:16 am

TopCat CCFC wrote:The former Cardiff boss is offering the Malaysian advice on how to run the Premier League club, despite being sacked by him in 2011


Monday 27th Jan 2014.

Dave Jones returns to Cardiff City as an advisor to owner Vincent Tan -

The former Cardiff boss is offering the Malaysian advice on how to run the Premier League club, despite being sacked by him in 2011

Dave Jones has made a dramatic return to Cardiff - nearly three years after being sacked by the club.

Mirror Sport can reveal that former Cardiff boss Jones has become close to owner Vincent Tan and has been offering advice on running the club.

It was Tan who actually sacked Jones in May 2011 but it is now claimed that he was in favour of keeping him and the rest of the board decided to axe him.

Jones endorsed current boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer as the man to succeed Malky Mackay and his friendship with Tan has helped him make decisions on the running of the club.

Jones, 57, had six years at Cardiff but could not get them into the Premier League and when he left fans had mixed views about his tenure.

So it is a surprise to see Jones back and involved even if it is in an informal capacity.

Jones has also been to stay with Tan and they have developed a strong friendship and working relationship.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ty-3068301?

How True Is DJ's input to the Club ???


Nothing surprises me with mad tan . Guy is an idiot . Will be one more yes man to his entourage

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:19 am

So basically, Tan and DJ are friends.

great story.

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:30 am

All about the hits

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:39 am

CraigCCFC wrote:So basically, Tan and DJ are friends.

great story.


It's how I see it, and you can understand Tan needing a football person to discuss certain matters with.

I would imagine virtually every owner have friends in football for the same reasons.

Dave Whelan would probably still chat to Martinez ???

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:41 am

lewispenarth wrote:All about the hits

Its news about City so should be posted. Its just a non story from a lazy journo.

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:33 am

What's he going to advise him on? Shagging hotspots in Cardiff most probably!!!

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:01 am

Surely Tan should be asking previous owners of others clubs for advice?
Perhaps Jones is not in a paid capacity though and the media has taken this to another level

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:27 am

davids wrote:Christ Almighty!

What next? Ridsdale back as a financial consultant?


The Soul crew will be back soon too??

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Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:31 pm

Green Arrow wrote:Great news! Dave Jones got us some right bargains and gems of players in Hudson, Marshall and Whittingham. He also brought entertaining players like Bothroyd here and was the first to bring Bellamy here back on loan. Bellamy was much better under Jones than under Malky too because he was allowed to play expansive football. I am a firm believer that if Jones was backed in the summer like Malky was we wouldn't even be in this mess.

Jones' main negative was he wasn't the most charismatic of people and therefore a good amount of fans didn't take to him. He wasn't a media man and he just said it how he felt straight up and honest and if you didn't like it then so be it. People often slate DJ but he did great here during times he had to offload and sell because of the clubs finances. He helped stabilise us in tough times and I will respect him for this always. Some of the players he bought were essential in us going up and were definitely some of the star performers. That is a fact no one can deny.



the issue the players had with Jones last time James is that he would spend most of his week on the golf course whilst burton and bellamy took training.
any ideas that burton or bellamy came up with during the week were soundly dismissed by jones on a friday.
remember the dismal performance against middlesboro which ultimately cost us promotion well he had six days to prepare the team and the players had 4 of those days off one of which was the infamous alleged night on the piss before the game story.
to be honest they would look quite funny stood together on the touchline with joneses trousers 8 inches below his waist and tan with his 8 inches above his waist :lol:

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:09 pm

steve davies wrote:
Green Arrow wrote:Great news! Dave Jones got us some right bargains and gems of players in Hudson, Marshall and Whittingham. He also brought entertaining players like Bothroyd here and was the first to bring Bellamy here back on loan. Bellamy was much better under Jones than under Malky too because he was allowed to play expansive football. I am a firm believer that if Jones was backed in the summer like Malky was we wouldn't even be in this mess.

Jones' main negative was he wasn't the most charismatic of people and therefore a good amount of fans didn't take to him. He wasn't a media man and he just said it how he felt straight up and honest and if you didn't like it then so be it. People often slate DJ but he did great here during times he had to offload and sell because of the clubs finances. He helped stabilise us in tough times and I will respect him for this always. Some of the players he bought were essential in us going up and were definitely some of the star performers. That is a fact no one can deny.



the issue the players had with Jones last time James is that he would spend most of his week on the golf course whilst burton and bellamy took training.
any ideas that burton or bellamy came up with during the week were soundly dismissed by jones on a friday.
remember the dismal performance against middlesboro which ultimately cost us promotion well he had six days to prepare the team and the players had 4 of those days off one of which was the infamous alleged night on the piss before the game story.
to be honest they would look quite funny stood together on the touchline with joneses trousers 8 inches below his waist and tan with his 8 inches above his waist :lol:


Steve, not saying Jones didn't have faults, I'm sure we're all aware he had many. Malky had many as well. However, I do think Jones did well in the market and to keep us up the top of the Championship fighting when he had to offload talents just showed how well he did do. He didn't have the backing Malky had and i think with it we'd have just destroyed the league even more as Jones got us playing attacking football. Jones' problem was much like Martinez's at Swansea and Wigan - he had the the good possession game going and the attacking but no solid defensive unit. Malky come in and sured up the defence at Championship level and was the complete opposite. We went from a team that could play and hurt others to a solid defensive unit that barely attacked. Sousa did the same at Swansea. Now Martinez at Wigan has a solid and well structured defence at Everton and he has brought in attacking players to build on those foundations which is why they are doing so well. He's added what he knows best to what Moyes had there.

Every manager has their pitfalls, even Sir Alex got outdone now and then, yet they often have many advantages.What I liked under Jones was the attacking play and what I liked under Malky was the solid defensive core. What I didn't like of Jones was the constant buckling and conceding late on and what I didn't like about Malky was the fact we were too cautious to have a go at teams. Im hoping Solskjaer is somewhere in the middle and understands the importance of both - its balance, moderation etc. Rodgers did it at Swansea. I will get stick on here for this view but in my opinion he's the best young manager in Britain at the moment. He understands balance and the concept of playing out from the back with patient play and then penetration the right when there's a chance to exploit teams.

It wasn't rushed but he had that solid foundation there from the Sousa set up but then brought in the likes of Sinclair who to be fair destroyed the Championship that year and I doubt anyone would disagree. He struck the balance needed and they were a good team in my eyes. As much as it pains me to say, admirable under Rodgers. Thank God in my opinion that he's no longer there as I think they'd have went up and up under him. Liverpool have benefitted from his implementation as well and are leaking less stupid goals with him there and are playing better football with more penetration and getting through and scoring more - its obvious to see why Suarez and Sturridge are doing so well.

Our problem with DJ was we'd get caught napping in defence. Our problem with Malky was we were toothless. We cant afford to be too extreme either way. There needs to be balance, fluidity and an ability to not only control games but when you're not controlling games see it out and make yourselves rigid to break down. That doesn't mean throwing away possession and 10 men behind the ball, it means being adaptive to the situation.

Sorry for the long winded post Steve but you're a good poster who deserved a fair and good response to your post. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Dave Jones - Back At CARDIFF CITY - As Advisor ?

Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:52 pm

No way never,i don't believe it,it'll never happen.